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Cckland
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‘’Internet White List System’’

Postby Cckland » Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:38 am

Recently, people who live in Quanzhou(postal:Chinchew), mainland China found that nearly all websites of which servers locate abroad are not accessible. According to some reports, this happens due to ‘’Internet White List System’’. People who spend some time surfing the mainland Chinese Internet shall know the Great Firewall. The Great Firewall in mainland China prevents all requests from China from accessing to the websites on the black list produced by Chinese government like Google, Youtube and Facebook in order to stop Chinese citizens from reading anti-China or anti-communism information. However, by the time of 2022, the Great Firewall only censored some famous international websites or anti-communism websites like pincong.rocks, 2047 and chinadigitaltimes. Most of small websites which do not mainly discuss politics like boardgamegeek(one of my favorite websites) and NationStates(yes, it’s not blocked yet) were not censored. But they are censored after the introduction of ‘’Internet White List System’’--that means the Great Firewall will prevent all requests expect those to famous ‘’white’’ websites in mainland China controlled by the CCP like Baidu, Bilibili and Sinaweibo. VPNs won’t work. Now it happens only in Quanzhou, Fujian province. Will it happen in the whole mainland? How long will it take?
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Postby Haganham » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:22 am

Probably. China is in crisis. It's nearly impossible for young people to have a family, so the working population will continue to fall. The real estate bubble that's been driving the economy is collapsing, and bringing the rest of the market with it. The banks are stealing people's entire savings to stay solvent. China is becoming impossible to live in. And that's a huge problem for the CCP, which for all it's authority of every aspect of life in china, has little control over the people. China is just too big and too complex for that level of control. The CCP has held onto power because the vast majority of people are willing to overlook their corruption and incompetence because the industrializing of china under the CCP has made them much wealthier then they were before. But once it becomes impossible to keep that growth up the cracks in the system begin to show. The CCP needs absolute control over communication so that they can convince people that they are alone in their discontent.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:30 am

Cckland wrote:Now it happens only in Quanzhou, Fujian province.

Why? Of all the places that could have gotten the whitelist rollout (including "everywhere"), why Quanzhou?
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:46 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Cckland wrote:Now it happens only in Quanzhou, Fujian province.

Why? Of all the places that could have gotten the whitelist rollout (including "everywhere"), why Quanzhou?


it's possible they're testing it on a large scale to see if the system holds up.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:41 pm

A white list is perhaps more of a pain in the neck to deal with than a black list so far as administrating it goes.

You have all sorts of prohibited stuff slip through the cracks if you're using a black list. But you have the opposite problem with a white list, where you can't do as much because everything is blocked by default, even if it technically should or would be allowed. Its very inefficient to have to regularly investigate everything that's blocked to determine if it should be added to the list allowed through and you get a ton of false positives. The list only gets bigger and more logistically complicated the more you want to allow through a white list, when the point of one is to close off most of all of the outside world/influences.

If the censorship is too obvious or draconian, people get fed up and decide to leave or do something else if the "walled garden" isn't large or useful enough for the end users' perspective. What are people there supposed to do for fun or to relax after they're done with the work/efforts part of their day?

A censorship regime if one is to be done- is ideally invisible, but also does its job but steers people to state approved alternatives for whatever is popular.

Were I Chinese and if I became disatisifed with the internet at home compared to overseas and if I saw too much of the outside world and liked it better, I'd be tempted enough to want to defect to somewhere else freer. It could work the opposite way however, where some people aren't impressed with the outside world and become more and not less patriotic.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:37 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Cckland wrote:Now it happens only in Quanzhou, Fujian province.

Why? Of all the places that could have gotten the whitelist rollout (including "everywhere"), why Quanzhou?

Field trial. See how it works before rolling it out nationwide.
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