Oh Canada Oh So Corrupted?

[Infected Mushroom]

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You can take 2 million dollars from a supernatural entity. The money will be recognized internationally as a legal gift, tax free.

However, the hidden cost is that if you take the 2 million dollars, the level of overall corruption in all of Canada’s governments (all levels) will increase by 67 percent and this level will be continuously sustained for at least 10 years (after which it either goes further up or starts to fall).

In other words, if you pocket this 2 million dollars, the people of Canada will be made to bear a substantial cost. Canada will become more corrupt. Do you still take the money? Why or why not?

I would not take the money. I would not want to see Canada become more corrupt. Corruption is hugely detrimental to society.

[Natenara]

That is, I receive free money and the state I don't like becomes more corrupt?
Of course I agree!

Canadians don't care about me

[Reconnaissance 2]

That is, I receive free money and the state I don't like becomes more corrupt?
Of course I agree!

Canadians don't care about me

I see the geese being prepared to drop bird poop everywhere, the maple syrup being readied, and the calv- the moose marines.

But for the moment of funnyness, I say yes!

[FNU]

Ignoring how silly this is, considering that two million dollars is chump change in comparison to a government's entire budget and the average pay some receive from lobbyists, I'd take it in a heart beat. Mainly because I severely doubt the Canadian people would put up with a corrupt government for ten years, much less a year at all. Elections work miracles.

[HISPIDA]

they deserve it for putting milk in bags

[Umeria]

This is an analogy for working for ethically suspect industries... perhaps...?

[Natenara]

This is an analogy for working for ethically suspect industries... perhaps...?

I believe that this is an analogy with being corrupt yourself.

[Umeria]

This is an analogy for working for ethically suspect industries... perhaps...?

I believe that this is an analogy with being corrupt yourself.

What's weird is there's usually a direct negative consequence of taking the money. This is just... "you messed up the moral compass"

[The Free Joy State]

Ignoring how silly this is, considering that two million dollars is chump change in comparison to a government's entire budget and the average pay some receive from lobbyists, I'd take it in a heart beat. Mainly because I severely doubt the Canadian people would put up with a corrupt government for ten years, much less a year at all. Elections work miracles.

If the government becomes that corrupt, elections won't be free and fair anymore, though...

And, I don't take the money. The world's at a crossroads; we need as many non-corrupt countries as possible right now.

[FNU]

Ignoring how silly this is, considering that two million dollars is chump change in comparison to a government's entire budget and the average pay some receive from lobbyists, I'd take it in a heart beat. Mainly because I severely doubt the Canadian people would put up with a corrupt government for ten years, much less a year at all. Elections work miracles.

If the government becomes that corrupt, elections won't be free and fair anymore, though...

And, I don't take the money. The world's at a crossroads; we need as many non-corrupt countries as possible right now.

Well, I would say "overthrow them" but I didn't want to accidentally cross any lines.

[Natenara]

If the government becomes that corrupt, elections won't be free and fair anymore, though...

And, I don't take the money. The world's at a crossroads; we need as many non-corrupt countries as possible right now.

Well, I would say "overthrow them" but I didn't want to accidentally cross any lines.

Corrupt gentlemen know how to defend themselves, and there is a lot of evidence for this.

[The Blaatschapen]

I publish the details of the deal in a Canadian newspaper before I take the deal. And ask the canadians for 5 million dollars instead.

Blackmail is also a kind of corruption, but it's clearly the superior choice that leaves both me and the Canadians better off than if I take the alien deal.

[The Free Joy State]

I publish the details of the deal in a Canadian newspaper before I take the deal. And ask the canadians for 5 million dollars instead.

Blackmail is also a kind of corruption, but it's clearly the superior choice that leaves both me and the Canadians better off than if I take the alien deal.

Why didn't I think of that?

I'd feel kind of bad asking for five million for something I already plan to do, though. Though if Canada felt like giving me a cursory million to tell the alien where to go, it'd be appreciated.

[Infected Mushroom]

I publish the details of the deal in a Canadian newspaper before I take the deal. And ask the canadians for 5 million dollars instead.

Blackmail is also a kind of corruption, but it's clearly the superior choice that leaves both me and the Canadians better off than if I take the alien deal.

I don’t follow.

[The Blaatschapen]

I publish the details of the deal in a Canadian newspaper before I take the deal. And ask the canadians for 5 million dollars instead.

Blackmail is also a kind of corruption, but it's clearly the superior choice that leaves both me and the Canadians better off than if I take the alien deal.

I don’t follow.

I blackmail Canada into giving me five million dollars or face huge corruption.

[Risottia]

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You can take 2 million dollars from a supernatural entity. The money will be recognized internationally as a legal gift, tax free.

However, the hidden cost is that if you take the 2 million dollars, the level of overall corruption in all of Canada’s governments (all levels) will increase by 67 percent and this level will be continuously sustained for at least 10 years (after which it either goes further up or starts to fall).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Canada

On Transparency International's 2021 Corruption Perceptions Index, Canada scored 74 on a scale from 0 ("highly corrupt") to 100 ("highly clean")

So, let's define a "corruption index" equal to 1-(score on TI2021CPI)/100, this means Canada gets a 26/100 .
A 67% increase of the above corruption index would get Canada to 26/100 * (1 + 67/100) = 43/100 (ish), which converts back to a 57/100 on the TI2021CPI.
That would place Canada from its current ranking among France, Austria, Great Britain and Estonia to a new ranking among Italy, Czechia, Slovakia, Poland and Latvia.

Meh, not a big deal. The point is that, frankly, 2 MCan$ (that is 1,52 M€) seems a bit too little as a reward for my mischief.

I blackmail Canada into giving me five million dollars or face huge corruption.

Yeah, that's nice, but I'd ask more if I were you. Let's say 10 M€ (remember to detract my consulence fee of 0,5 M€, thank you).

[Ethel mermania]

My price for evil is 15 million in 1990 dollars, so no i don't take the money.

[The Selkie]

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You can take 2 million dollars from a supernatural entity. The money will be recognized internationally as a legal gift, tax free.

However, the hidden cost is that if you take the 2 million dollars, the level of overall corruption in all of Canada’s governments (all levels) will increase by 67 percent and this level will be continuously sustained for at least 10 years (after which it either goes further up or starts to fall).

In other words, if you pocket this 2 million dollars, the people of Canada will be made to bear a substantial cost. Canada will become more corrupt. Do you still take the money? Why or why not?

I would not take the money. I would not want to see Canada become more corrupt. Corruption is hugely detrimental to society.

So, basically Q comes, in all the glory of John de Lancie, promises me a measly two million dollars, but in return, he will snip Canada of all countries on God's good green Earth to become 67 percent more corrupt - somehow.
I presume, that this will not affect legislation but rather 67 percent more people will think "Well, I could take bribes that way, couldn't I..." and that all the law enforcement, which would usually takle that, takes a vacation on Sardinia as overtime compensation for ten years?
As, according to Transparency.org, the perceived corruption rate has a score of 74 (from 84 in 2012, the Maple Syrup Mafia is real, change my mind), I would ask Q for an autograph of John de Lancie, tell him to keep the change and let Canada become "the most wretched hive of maple syrup and pet beavers", to paraphrase someone else.
So, in a way, yes, I would take the money. I would then use that money to try and bribe an immortal, omnipotent being to get me an autograph of an actor, but that's besides the point. Bonus points for me being a German living in Austria, I guess.
(Maybe, IM, you should adapt this question to rather Option A being "Take the money, see Canada corrupted, and live there for the ten years" or Option B being "Do not take the money." Then it would be a bit more difficult.)

[Rakhalia]

Of course I take the money. What'll be the difference? Will they just reclassify all the lobbying as actual bribery?

[The Holy Therns]

This is just "would you take many monies if A Bad" all over again.

[Rakhalia]

This is just "would you take many monies if A Bad" all over again.

To be entirely fair to IM, the hypotheticals all have different "A Bad"s which can lead to different reasonings

[Infected Mushroom]

I don’t follow.

I blackmail Canada into giving me five million dollars or face huge corruption.

And why would they believe the deal is real?

[Infected Mushroom]

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You can take 2 million dollars from a supernatural entity. The money will be recognized internationally as a legal gift, tax free.

However, the hidden cost is that if you take the 2 million dollars, the level of overall corruption in all of Canada’s governments (all levels) will increase by 67 percent and this level will be continuously sustained for at least 10 years (after which it either goes further up or starts to fall).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Canada

On Transparency International's 2021 Corruption Perceptions Index, Canada scored 74 on a scale from 0 ("highly corrupt") to 100 ("highly clean")

So, let's define a "corruption index" equal to 1-(score on TI2021CPI)/100, this means Canada gets a 26/100 .
A 67% increase of the above corruption index would get Canada to 26/100 * (1 + 67/100) = 43/100 (ish), which converts back to a 57/100 on the TI2021CPI.
That would place Canada from its current ranking among France, Austria, Great Britain and Estonia to a new ranking among Italy, Czechia, Slovakia, Poland and Latvia.

Meh, not a big deal. The point is that, frankly, 2 MCan$ (that is 1,52 M€) seems a bit too little as a reward for my mischief.

I blackmail Canada into giving me five million dollars or face huge corruption.

Yeah, that's nice, but I'd ask more if I were you. Let's say 10 M€ (remember to detract my consulence fee of 0,5 M€, thank you).

It’s a viable perspective to argue that mathematically, Canada can shrug off a 67 percent increase in true corruption.

[The Blaatschapen]

I blackmail Canada into giving me five million dollars or face huge corruption.

And why would they believe the deal is real?

I post a picture of the alien and the contract with it

[The Two Jerseys]

My price for evil is 15 million in 1990 dollars, so no i don't take the money.

Confirmed: Ethel is really Robert Wagner with an eyepatch.