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Hot Topic - USA should leave Middle East

Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:51 pm

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Postby Neptunvia » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:53 pm

Good idea.

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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:53 pm

The US involvement in the Middle East has seen a nation protecting its interests (Iraq) by attempting to attack a state that was basically a puppet of the US (Kuwait) be bombed into the Stone Age and coalitioned by western imperialists into the point of economic and political failure, as well as USA constantly “accidentally” blowing up Iranian villages with missiles and conducting their own terrorism in the name of “freedom” (oil)

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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:54 pm

We have Hot Takes Discussion II already surely :P plus I thought the Afghanistan withdrawal was last summer
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Postby Hispida » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:55 pm

might wanna flesh out the op... a lot.

anyways yes the US should get the fuck out of the middle east

Tinhampton wrote:We have Hot Takes Discussion II already surely :P plus I thought the Afghanistan withdrawal was last summer

afghanistan isn't in the middle east
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Postby Jewish Underground State » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:56 pm

Hispida wrote:might wanna flesh out the op... a lot.

anyways yes the US should get the fuck out of the middle east

Tinhampton wrote:We have Hot Takes Discussion II already surely :P plus I thought the Afghanistan withdrawal was last summer

afghanistan isn't in the middle east

Part of the islamic world though
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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:56 pm

Jewish Underground State wrote:Y E S

Isnt the whole reason that your little government in the Middle East exists USA? Arent you colonizing Palestine by deporting locals and importing mostly European Jews and few Yiddish to the point where Hebrew almost died? You shouldn’t be here

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Postby Port Caverton » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:56 pm

In what world is the US getting out of the middle East a hot take lol
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Postby Jewish Underground State » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:57 pm

The Tusken Clans wrote:
Jewish Underground State wrote:Y E S

Isnt the whole reason that your little government in the Middle East exists USA? Arent you colonizing Palestine by deporting locals and importing mostly European Jews and few Yiddish to the point where Hebrew almost died? You shouldn’t be here

What? I'm american?
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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:57 pm

Tinhampton wrote:We have Hot Takes Discussion II already surely :P plus I thought the Afghanistan withdrawal was last summer

Afghanistan withdrawal was a good idea

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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:58 pm

Jewish Underground State wrote:
The Tusken Clans wrote:Isnt the whole reason that your little government in the Middle East exists USA? Arent you colonizing Palestine by deporting locals and importing mostly European Jews and few Yiddish to the point where Hebrew almost died? You shouldn’t be here

What?

(israel)

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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:58 pm

Jewish Underground State wrote:
The Tusken Clans wrote:Isnt the whole reason that your little government in the Middle East exists USA? Arent you colonizing Palestine by deporting locals and importing mostly European Jews and few Yiddish to the point where Hebrew almost died? You shouldn’t be here

What? I'm american?

Your nation name is Jewish underground state so I assumed you were Jewish

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Postby Jewish Underground State » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:58 pm

The Tusken Clans wrote:
Jewish Underground State wrote:What?

(israel)

I'm american not israeli
I am jewish though
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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:59 pm

Port Caverton wrote:In what world is the US getting out of the middle East a hot take lol

US conservatives and rednecks might want to dispute it

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:59 pm

The Tusken Clans wrote:
Jewish Underground State wrote:Y E S

Isnt the whole reason that your little government in the Middle East exists USA? Arent you colonizing Palestine by deporting locals and importing mostly European Jews and few Yiddish to the point where Hebrew almost died? You shouldn’t be here


The US didn't really start supporting Israel until several decades after it was founded. France is much more to blame for the state actually being established and solidifying itself tbh.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Tusken Clans wrote:Isnt the whole reason that your little government in the Middle East exists USA? Arent you colonizing Palestine by deporting locals and importing mostly European Jews and few Yiddish to the point where Hebrew almost died? You shouldn’t be here


The US didn't really start supporting Israel until several decades after it was founded. France is much more to blame for the state actually being established and solidifying itself tbh.

Don't forget the UK
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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:00 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Tusken Clans wrote:Isnt the whole reason that your little government in the Middle East exists USA? Arent you colonizing Palestine by deporting locals and importing mostly European Jews and few Yiddish to the point where Hebrew almost died? You shouldn’t be here


The US didn't really start supporting Israel until several decades after it was founded. France is much more to blame for the state actually being established and solidifying itself tbh.

It began supporting it when anti-Israeli movements kicked up and began to aim their rifles

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Postby Port Caverton » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:00 pm

The Tusken Clans wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:In what world is the US getting out of the middle East a hot take lol

US conservatives and rednecks might want to dispute it

Most modern US conservatives want to stay away from the middle East.
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Postby Jewish Underground State » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:01 pm

The Tusken Clans wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The US didn't really start supporting Israel until several decades after it was founded. France is much more to blame for the state actually being established and solidifying itself tbh.

It began supporting it when anti-Israeli movements kicked up and began to aim their rifles

Anyway no more stupid freaking conflicts in the middle east involving america. Everything america does to try to the make the region peaceful just makes the region worse over all.
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Postby Wayneactia » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:19 pm

Jewish Underground State wrote:
The Tusken Clans wrote:It began supporting it when anti-Israeli movements kicked up and began to aim their rifles

Anyway no more stupid freaking conflicts in the middle east involving america. Everything america does to try to the make the region peaceful just makes the region worse over all.

You do realize American involvement is the only thing holding the middle east together correct? If the U.S. pulls out, Iran will develop nuclear weapons. Israel will take that as an existential threat and we all know how that plays out....
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Postby Jewish Underground State » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:22 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Jewish Underground State wrote:Anyway no more stupid freaking conflicts in the middle east involving america. Everything america does to try to the make the region peaceful just makes the region worse over all.

You do realize American involvement is the only thing holding the middle east together correct? If the U.S. pulls out, Iran will develop nuclear weapons. Israel will take that as an existential threat and we all know how that plays out....

You forget about the Saudis. They will start a war if Iran gets nukes.

The problem is america has no clue how to hold the middle east when their troops leave.

Your saying America holds the middle east together. So when they leave the whole region collapses like a house of cards. That's a parasitic relationship
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Postby Wayneactia » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:28 pm

Jewish Underground State wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:You do realize American involvement is the only thing holding the middle east together correct? If the U.S. pulls out, Iran will develop nuclear weapons. Israel will take that as an existential threat and we all know how that plays out....

You forget about the Saudis. They will start a war if Iran gets nukes.

The Saudis don't have nukes. As soon as most of Riyadh disappears in an inferno they will scream for peace.
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Postby Jewish Underground State » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:28 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Jewish Underground State wrote:You forget about the Saudis. They will start a war if Iran gets nukes.

The Saudis don't have nukes. As soon as most of Riyadh disappears in an inferno they will scream for peace.

I know that won't stop them if they have israeli support.
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