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Aussie Rules World Cup V - Signups/Host Bids (CLOSED)

Postby Sylestone » Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:55 am



Welcome back to the Aussie Rules World Cup (ARWC) for its fifth edition, the official cup for Australian Rules football! Over four editions, one particular powerhouse has emerged - Sarzonia - a side of whom have won three out of four editions thus far. However, they will be hard-pressed to make that four from five, for multiple other nations have proved worthy of winning the title - Baggieland, Ko-oren, Sylestone and TJUN-ia just to name the rest of the top five in the ranks. But even they are certainly beatable but rising nations and realistically, anyone can win it. But who will it be?

In order to sign up, just post your intentions as a new post below, saying something such as "We sign up" or similar.

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Any nation may enter a puppet, but this must be confirmed by both the puppet and the main that they are both run by the same user. Additionally, each user may only enter one puppet and all main nations will be preferred over any puppets participating.

Host Bids
Any nation or user may bid to host the fourth Aussie Rules World Cup, whether experienced or new. Host bids must include proposed formats, tiebreakers, scorination methods and experience while IC information is recommended.
The host bid deadline will be set to July 5 at 8:00 am, AEST (July 4, 10:00 pm UTC). If there are no bids by that point, the bidding deadline will be extended for another three days after the first host bid is announced.

Signups (16) [Rank in parentheses]
Sylestone (4)
Ko-oren (5)
Sarzonia (1)
Baggieland (2)
Kriegiersien (8)
TJUN-ia (3)
Alice Bay (10)
StrayaRoos (=11)
Copper Cuprum (=29)
HUElavia (6)
Godchouzetsu (UR)
Croblade (UR)
Soldera (9)
Acadiana [Quebecois Acadiana] (=29)
Lacfroid (UR)
Kommar (UR)

Host Bids (1)
StrayaRoos
Last edited by Sylestone on Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:35 pm, edited 7 times in total.
President of Aussie Rules (WC)
Football: CoH 78 third place
Aussie Rules: ARWC II champions, ARWC III finalists, ARWC I semifinalists
Cricket: ODI WT II semifinalists, EspoT20 I&II champions
BoF 74, CoH 78, CoH 81, ARWC II&III, WLC 36, HWC 24, EspoT20 I

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Ko-oren
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Postby Ko-oren » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:18 am

Yes
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Champions 1x World Cup - 1x CoH - 1x AOCAF - 1x WBC - 4x World Bowl - 1x IBC - 4x RUWC - 2x RLWC - 2x T20 WC - 1x ARWC - 1x HWC - 1x Beach Cup
Runners-up 1x World Cup - 2x CAFA - 1x AOCAF - 1x WBC - 3x World Bowl - 1x WCoH - 4x IBC - 2x RUWC - 1x GCF Test Cricket - 1x ODI WT - 1x WLC - 1x FHWC
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Sarzonia
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Postby Sarzonia » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:45 am

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Former WLC President. Current member of the IBC Council and the WCoH Federation. He/him/his.
Our trophy case and other honours; Our hosting history

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Baggieland
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Postby Baggieland » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:08 am

In.

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Postby Kriegiersien » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:34 am

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Second: World Cup of Masters I
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Postby TJUN-ia » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:08 am

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1st: ECC4
2nd: NSCF24, ARWC4, WC:TOTS, IBC34, NSCF26, IBS17
3rd: ARWC3, IBC32, ECC3
4th: WBC50, IBC31, WBC52, IBC33, RLWC20
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T2: #97 Robin Dragonovic [SNL] (3W [2 @JR])/#96 Alice Jepkosgei (2W)/#70 Gongming Gao [NCR] (2W)

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Postby Alice Bay » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:26 am

Closely related to the Principality of Lisander.
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Postby StrayaRoos » Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:03 pm

G'day Mates
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Aussie Rules:6th
Volleyball:19th
Test Cricket:28th
Football:95th
Baseball:39th
Handball:38th
Basketball:52nd
4th Place at ARWC5

94:26/29 23pts
95:26/27 26pts
96:26/34 56pts
98:27/31 24pts
99:28/38 71pts
100:45/51 42pts

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Postby Croblade » Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:37 pm

I'll give it a try!
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Postby Soldera » Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:42 pm

Signing back up.

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Postby Sarzonia » Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:43 pm

Soldera wrote:Signing back up.

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Да
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Postby Quebecois Acadiana » Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:46 pm

Lit, in as Acadiana
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Postby StrayaRoos » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:02 pm

StrayaRoos Bid For the Fifth Aussie Rules World Cup
Format
  • 16 Teams-4 Single Round Robin groups of 4 Top 2 in each progres to the Quarterfinals
  • 20 Teams-4 Groups of 5,Top 2 advance to Quarterfinals
  • 24 Teams-6 Groups of 4,Top 2 advance to the knockout phase where the 9-12 seeds playoff in the Play in round with the winners advancing to the quarterfinals
Tiebreakers
1)Points
2)Points diffrencial
3)Points Scored
Experience
StrayaRoos has hosted the Team Tennis event as part of the inaugural Festival of Local Anaian Games and Sports (F.L.A.G.S) and has scorinated many sports including Aussie Rules on his domestic newswire.
Scorination
Xkoranate 0.3.3,4 Quarters
RP Bonus
Xkoranate will be set to relative and 15%.Any rp bonus will decay by half every matchday.In addition to this there will be a Resonable roster bonus avalible
IC Info
StrayaRoos is a Nation in South-West Anaia where sport is essentially the national religion and you're likely to get killed by the native flora and fauna
СтраяРус ❤️ Україна
Technoblade Never Dies
Aussie Rules:6th
Volleyball:19th
Test Cricket:28th
Football:95th
Baseball:39th
Handball:38th
Basketball:52nd
4th Place at ARWC5

94:26/29 23pts
95:26/27 26pts
96:26/34 56pts
98:27/31 24pts
99:28/38 71pts
100:45/51 42pts

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Sylestone
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Postby Sylestone » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:35 pm

StrayaRoos wrote:StrayaRoos host bid

It's nice to see someone bidding! However, I do have a few questions to ask you.

1) In the 24-team format, you mention that the 9-12 seeds playoff for a spot in the quarterfinals. However, in this instance, if the winners progress, that means that there will be ten teams in the quarterfinals. Do you mean seeds 5-12 playoff for four spots in the quarterfinals?

2) In the tiebreakers section, you mention that points differential and points scored are both tiebreakers. Do you mean goals differential and goals scored? Also, in the incredibly unlikely case two teams are equal in this regard, what will be the tiebreaker to split them? A coin toss or something?

3) From your RP bonus subtitle, it appears as though you're using the xkoranate bonuses function and although I may be incorrect here, it's more common to add RP bonus directly to rank. Is there any reason why you've elected to use the bonuses function?

4) Are you aware of the relatively, er, un-volatile nature of the Aussie Rules scorinator, or in other words, that according to a couple of tests I've done, any kind of ranked team has, quite literally, a 99.9% chance of defeating an unranked team and a team with full rank has a 98% chance of defeating a team with a tenth of that rank? How do you plan on countering this?
President of Aussie Rules (WC)
Football: CoH 78 third place
Aussie Rules: ARWC II champions, ARWC III finalists, ARWC I semifinalists
Cricket: ODI WT II semifinalists, EspoT20 I&II champions
BoF 74, CoH 78, CoH 81, ARWC II&III, WLC 36, HWC 24, EspoT20 I

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Postby StrayaRoos » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:56 pm

Sylestone wrote:Snip

1)Yes,i'll fix that up later
2)Yes,the final tie breaker is probably gonna be a coin toss
3)no i've noticed in xkoranate when you change the ranks mid competition the table resets to 1 game
4)No,though i'll have a look this afternoon and see ways to fix it
СтраяРус ❤️ Україна
Technoblade Never Dies
Aussie Rules:6th
Volleyball:19th
Test Cricket:28th
Football:95th
Baseball:39th
Handball:38th
Basketball:52nd
4th Place at ARWC5

94:26/29 23pts
95:26/27 26pts
96:26/34 56pts
98:27/31 24pts
99:28/38 71pts
100:45/51 42pts

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Sylestone
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Postby Sylestone » Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:19 pm

StrayaRoos wrote:3)no i've noticed in xkoranate when you change the ranks mid competition the table resets to 1 game

Interesting. I've hosted several tournaments applying RP bonuses directly to skill modifiers and never had this problem.
President of Aussie Rules (WC)
Football: CoH 78 third place
Aussie Rules: ARWC II champions, ARWC III finalists, ARWC I semifinalists
Cricket: ODI WT II semifinalists, EspoT20 I&II champions
BoF 74, CoH 78, CoH 81, ARWC II&III, WLC 36, HWC 24, EspoT20 I

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Ko-oren
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Postby Ko-oren » Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:35 am

Good to see a bid! Echoing the above, I advise you to apply RP bonus directly onto the skill modifier, and to not use the RP bonus % functionality. Like Syle, I've never had my results set back to MD1.

Also wanted to bring up something related to point 4: we have one team with nearly the maximum rank possible, 3/4 very high ranked teams, and 4/5 high ranked teams. How will you make sure that upsets are possible (and maybe even necessary)? Remember, that if you make RP bonus higher, that also goes for the top ranked teams, potentially making the gap even wider.
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Trigramme: KOR - Demonym: Ko-orenite - Population: 27.270.096
Regions - Spreadsheets - Domestic Sports Newswires - Factbooks - Loro Language Schools - Goliæth Sports Café
Champions 1x World Cup - 1x CoH - 1x AOCAF - 1x WBC - 4x World Bowl - 1x IBC - 4x RUWC - 2x RLWC - 2x T20 WC - 1x ARWC - 1x HWC - 1x Beach Cup
Runners-up 1x World Cup - 2x CAFA - 1x AOCAF - 1x WBC - 3x World Bowl - 1x WCoH - 4x IBC - 2x RUWC - 1x GCF Test Cricket - 1x ODI WT - 1x WLC - 1x FHWC
Organisation & Hosting 1x WCC President - 1x CAFA - 1x World Bowl - 1x WCOH - 2x RUWC - 1x ODI WT - 1x T20 WC - 1x FHWC - (inactive) IRLCC, BCCC, Champions Bowl

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Postby StrayaRoos » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:02 am

Ko-oren wrote:Also wanted to bring up something related to point 4: we have one team with nearly the maximum rank possible, 3/4 very high ranked teams, and 4/5 high ranked teams. How will you make sure that upsets are possible (and maybe even necessary)? Remember, that if you make RP bonus higher, that also goes for the top ranked teams, potentially making the gap even wider.


at the moment i'm not exactly sure on a way to do it,i'm leaning towards setting a higher max rank but i'm not sure How it would impact the results
СтраяРус ❤️ Україна
Technoblade Never Dies
Aussie Rules:6th
Volleyball:19th
Test Cricket:28th
Football:95th
Baseball:39th
Handball:38th
Basketball:52nd
4th Place at ARWC5

94:26/29 23pts
95:26/27 26pts
96:26/34 56pts
98:27/31 24pts
99:28/38 71pts
100:45/51 42pts

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Sylestone
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Postby Sylestone » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:03 pm

The bidding deadline may have passed 3.5 hours ago, but I'm going to extend it another day as I feel as though productive discussions are underway and calling it now may not be the best.

StrayaRoos wrote:at the moment i'm not exactly sure on a way to do it,i'm leaning towards setting a higher max rank but i'm not sure How it would impact the results

As far as I know, setting a higher max rank won't really make a difference as the Australian Football formula follows the SQIS formula in association football, meaning that the two team ranks are directly compared against each other rather than to a max rank. You could try experimenting with adjusting minimum ranks or something?
President of Aussie Rules (WC)
Football: CoH 78 third place
Aussie Rules: ARWC II champions, ARWC III finalists, ARWC I semifinalists
Cricket: ODI WT II semifinalists, EspoT20 I&II champions
BoF 74, CoH 78, CoH 81, ARWC II&III, WLC 36, HWC 24, EspoT20 I

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StrayaRoos
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Postby StrayaRoos » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:38 pm

Sylestone wrote:
StrayaRoos wrote:at the moment i'm not exactly sure on a way to do it,i'm leaning towards setting a higher max rank but i'm not sure How it would impact the results

As far as I know, setting a higher max rank won't really make a difference as the Australian Football formula follows the SQIS formula in association football, meaning that the two team ranks are directly compared against each other rather than to a max rank. You could try experimenting with adjusting minimum ranks or something?

I'll try it next time i have access to my laptop,though i also think i should work out other ways
СтраяРус ❤️ Україна
Technoblade Never Dies
Aussie Rules:6th
Volleyball:19th
Test Cricket:28th
Football:95th
Baseball:39th
Handball:38th
Basketball:52nd
4th Place at ARWC5

94:26/29 23pts
95:26/27 26pts
96:26/34 56pts
98:27/31 24pts
99:28/38 71pts
100:45/51 42pts

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Baggieland
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Postby Baggieland » Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:03 am

It certainly is refreshing to have a new host bid. I'm sure everyone is tired of going to Baggieland! :)

But I just want to add my voice to the points already raised by Syle and Ko-oren. Especially that bit about all bonus points getting reset to MD1. All points must be accumulative, from pre-tournament points already in the bank to rosters and RPs.

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