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[Abortion Thread] Supreme Court Overturns Roe v Wade

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What week do you think elective abortions should be allowed till

0-4
38
23%
5-8
5
3%
9-12
8
5%
13-16
10
6%
17-20
9
6%
21-24
27
17%
25-28
10
6%
29-32
2
1%
33-36
3
2%
37 till birth
51
31%
 
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[Abortion Thread] Supreme Court Overturns Roe v Wade

Postby Godular » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:28 am

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/24/politics ... index.html

Today the supreme court of the united states released the ruling overturning the landmark case Roe v Wade revoking the constitutional right to an abortion. In a 6-3 vote.


Jan Hoffman in The New York Times wrote:Friday’s historic opinion, written by Justice Alito and joined by the Supreme Court's conservative bloc, overturns almost 50 years of precedent. Justice Alito's guiding principle is that a right to an abortion cannot be found in the Constitution. He adheres to a legal philosophy known as “original intent,” which involves scrutinizing the founding document's language to derive direction on contemporary issues.


Adding this thread to the existing abortion thread would have put that thread over the limit. This is now the abortion thread.
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Postby Outer Bratorke » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:35 am

Conservatives working there ass off to make this country more and more dystopian. This is just more proof massive change is need to the supreme court.
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Postby Diuhon » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:37 am

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Postby Hispida » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:37 am

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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:38 am

i dont see a problem
this doesnt ban abortion
it just returns the right to the states
no big deal

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Postby Diuhon » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:39 am

thomas mentioned obergefell, lawrence, and griswold as next on the chopping block

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:40 am

I mean, I support abortion rights...

but I think it makes sense that the Supreme Court shouldn't pretend that there's always been some constitutional message that forces all levels of governments to recognise abortion flowing from the days of the Founding Fathers. No one can in good faith say, "Yeah those Founding Fathers when they wrote that constitution, they totally intended for abortion to be a right" given the societal viewpoints of the day. In the 1700s, abortion just wasn't tolerated.

If the whole country later decided as a group, "we're going to constitutionalize this right" then go ahead. But otherwise, it seems like Roe v Wade was politics entering the judiciary.
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Postby Hispida » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:40 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I mean, I support abortion rights...

but I think it makes sense that the Supreme Court shouldn't pretend that there's always been some constitutional message that forces all levels of governments to recognise abortion flowing from the days of the Founding Fathers. No one can in good faith say, "Yeah those Founding Fathers when they wrote that constitution, they totally intended for abortion to be a right" given the societal viewpoints of the day.

If the whole country later decided as a group, "we're going to constitutionalize this right" then go ahead. But otherwise, it seems like Roe v Wade was politics entering the judiciary.

politics and the judiciary are the same thing IM
they always have been
you can't pretend like they're separate anymore
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Postby Diuhon » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:41 am

Libertyvilla wrote:i dont see a problem
this doesnt ban abortion
it just returns the right to the states
no big deal

would anyone like to see who you can marry retvrn to the states? that means ditching obergefell and loving

or how about overturning brown with that logic? but of course you would, you republicans have the power now

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:42 am

Hispida wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I mean, I support abortion rights...

but I think it makes sense that the Supreme Court shouldn't pretend that there's always been some constitutional message that forces all levels of governments to recognise abortion flowing from the days of the Founding Fathers. No one can in good faith say, "Yeah those Founding Fathers when they wrote that constitution, they totally intended for abortion to be a right" given the societal viewpoints of the day.

If the whole country later decided as a group, "we're going to constitutionalize this right" then go ahead. But otherwise, it seems like Roe v Wade was politics entering the judiciary.

politics and the judiciary are the same thing IM
they always have been
you can't pretend like they're separate anymore


It's the same level of nonsense as the Supreme Court saying "2nd Amendment as written in the 1700s"... it clearly gives effect to permanent gun ownership rights including fully automatic weapons and firearms with repeating fire capability.

These things should be decided by the governments and legislated out, not interpreted and ruled by the courts.
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Postby Hispida » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:42 am

Libertyvilla wrote:i dont see a problem
this doesnt ban abortion
it just returns the right to the states
no big deal

more than half the country will now ban abortion

yeah "not a big deal" my ass
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Postby Thomasi » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:43 am

Roe v Wade used the non existent right to privacy.

I support this because I am pro life progressive.

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Postby Soviet cat » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:43 am

This is why I think Conservativism is Crap

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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:44 am

Diuhon wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:i dont see a problem
this doesnt ban abortion
it just returns the right to the states
no big deal

would anyone like to see who you can marry retvrn to the states? that means ditching obergefell and loving

or how about overturning brown with that logic? but of course you would, you republicans have the power now

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

yes actually
im all about states rights
in fact every state should be independent and decide

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Postby Hispida » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:44 am

protestors are apparently gathering outside of the supreme court. hope they start rioting!!!

Thomasi wrote:Roe v Wade used the non existent right to privacy.

I support this because I am pro life progressive.

glad to know you support the murders of millions of women
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Postby Loeje » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:44 am

Diuhon wrote:thomas mentioned obergefell, lawrence, and griswold as next on the chopping block

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Obergefell? Really? If they overturn Obergefell, I don't think there's any hope anymore. But maybe that's selfish.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:44 am

You're a confident democracy right?

Then trust the people to vote out the correct responses state by state to abortion.

It's completely disingenuous to say "yeah the Constitution as it was written in the 1700s was always meant to include and protect abortion rights." I mean, that's basically a lie.

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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:44 am

Hispida wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:i dont see a problem
this doesnt ban abortion
it just returns the right to the states
no big deal

more than half the country will now ban abortion

yeah "not a big deal" my ass

okay and?
go to another state
maybe if biden lowered the gas prices it wouldnt be so expensice
or better yet learn to use a condon

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Postby Hispida » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:45 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:You're a confident democracy right?

we're not a democracy period

never have been and never intended to be
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:45 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Hispida wrote:more than half the country will now ban abortion

yeah "not a big deal" my ass

okay and?
go to another state
maybe if biden lowered the gas prices it wouldnt be so expensice
or better yet learn to use a condon

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Postby Soviet cat » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:46 am

I can't wait to see the Riot!

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Postby Hispida » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:46 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Hispida wrote:more than half the country will now ban abortion

yeah "not a big deal" my ass

okay and?
go to another state
maybe if biden lowered the gas prices it wouldnt be so expensice
or better yet learn to use a condon

condoms don't always work and a few states are actually working to make traveling to free states illegal too. plus the president can't affect gas prices but i digress

freedom is non-negotiable. this ruling violates the 14th amendment; "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" and all that
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