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Hot Takes Discussion II: NATO is the Greatest Thing Ever

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What taxes do you support? (Courtesy of the Jamesian Republic)

Land/Property Tax
23
15%
Sales Tax
18
12%
Income Tax
16
10%
No Taxes at All!
8
5%
Tax Transparency (Choose where tax money goes)
17
11%
Reverse Tax (Government Pays You!)
13
8%
Business Tax
23
15%
Flat Tax
7
5%
Progressive Tax
24
16%
Other (Comment Below)
5
3%
 
Total votes : 154

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Northern Seleucia
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Hot Takes Discussion II: NATO is the Greatest Thing Ever

Postby Northern Seleucia » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:22 pm

See the original thread here




This thread is a continuation of a previous thread where we share Hot Takes, or unpopular opinions, and discuss them.

For the uninitiated, a "hot take" is a controversial opinion someone might have, or an opinion which isn't very popular amongst people. For example, a hot take some have is that Super Mario 64 hasn't aged as well as many people say it does. The controls (especially the camera) is very clunky and whilst the jump to 3D from 2D was huge, it's not as impressive as people still view it to this day (it's held on a pretty high pedestal still after all these years).

Normal thread rules apply, no spamming, flaming, trolling, etc.
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:23 pm

First
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"That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom – and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth."
Overview | Northern Seleucian Army | NDSS System | NS Policies | About Me
National News: Controversial study shows women are 67% more like to die from surgical complications if surgeon is a male janitor opposed to a female doctor - Feminists celebrate | Body found stuffed inside a Duffel Bag - May be a Homicide | Companies have painted their coal power plants green to give the impression of being environmentally friendly. | Breathing Oxygen recently linked to Staying Alive - Oxygen sales boom.

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Meadowfields
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Postby Meadowfields » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:23 pm

First!
Edit: My fucking god, why?
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Hukhalia
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Postby Hukhalia » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:23 pm

voting for "Mao was a hero" as an appropriate thread title, fairly hot take right there

EDIT: changing the title to a new hot take every now and then works thematically i feel
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"It was this alone that drew so many Europeans to colonial North America: the dream in the settler mind of each man becoming a petty lord of his own land. Thus, the tradition of individualism and egalitarianism in America was rooted in the poisoned concept of equal privileges for a new nation of European conquerors." J. Sakai

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The Reformed American Republic
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Democratic Socialists

Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:24 pm

No mods allowed.

based on No Adults Allowed
"It's called 'the American Dream' 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
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Meadowfields
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Meadowfields » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:24 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:No mods allowed.

based on No Adults Allowed

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News ✉ | Over 500 arrests made in connection to "Kiss of the Devil" killings, former suspect ruled a decoy | Death toll from Ashbrid freeze reaches 130,000 as 30% of the 35 million-full city has been evacuated | Large step in preserving rare three-antlered deer as last female reproduces | House of Assembly debates replacing "ineffective" semi-presidential system with a full parliamentary system | Weather ☀ | Meadowfields City ⛈ -1°/-9°C | Ashbrid ❄ -80°/-85°C | Teshig ☀ 21°/14°C | Goofariask ☀ 5°/-1°C | Orkhusgol ☀ 20°/12°C |
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Red Lake Circle
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Red Lake Circle » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:25 pm

Ah, sweet, time to peep new horrors!
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Untecna
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Postby Untecna » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:25 pm

Pineapple is a sin
Californian

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Khurkhogur
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Khurkhogur » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:25 pm

Hukhalia wrote:voting for "Mao was a hero" as an appropriate thread title, fairly hot take right there

EDIT: changing the title to a new hot take every now and then works thematically i feel

First hot take: Mao was the proto-reddit mod
Edit: goddammit I was so close
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Red Lake Circle
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Red Lake Circle » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:25 pm

Untecna wrote:Pineapple is a sin

You bastard
✶ ✶ ✶ The Naturalist Federation of Red Lake ✶ ✶ ✶
"For Nature and Liberty!"
- AHAKS NEWS RADIO -
08/07/1582 1430 GST: After being voted up 73-27 in the Ecumenical Council, The Heavenly Mandate of Fyrn institutes additional restrictions for non-Theoist citizens. They are no longer able to hold corporate positions above general manager, and their ability to hold property has been severely curtailed. As it stands, it's hard to say what the larger-scale consequences of this legislation may be.
Red Lake does not necssarily represent my personal views. I promise I'll make a tech factbook eventually. NS stats didn't respect the wildlife and got mauled. Language is Gothic.

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Meadowfields
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Meadowfields » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:25 pm

Khurkhogur wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:voting for "Mao was a hero" as an appropriate thread title, fairly hot take right there

EDIT: changing the title to a new hot take every now and then works thematically i feel

First hot take: Mao was the proto-reddit mod

Nah, you were the second one.
Untecna wrote:Pineapple is a sin

Based.
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Nous nous relèverons des larmes du passé
Overview | History | Politics | Religion | Trivia
News ✉ | Over 500 arrests made in connection to "Kiss of the Devil" killings, former suspect ruled a decoy | Death toll from Ashbrid freeze reaches 130,000 as 30% of the 35 million-full city has been evacuated | Large step in preserving rare three-antlered deer as last female reproduces | House of Assembly debates replacing "ineffective" semi-presidential system with a full parliamentary system | Weather ☀ | Meadowfields City ⛈ -1°/-9°C | Ashbrid ❄ -80°/-85°C | Teshig ☀ 21°/14°C | Goofariask ☀ 5°/-1°C | Orkhusgol ☀ 20°/12°C |
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The Jamesian Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:27 pm

Hukhalia wrote:voting for "Sun Yat Sen was a hero" as an appropriate thread title, fairly hot take right there

EDIT: changing the title to a new hot take every now and then works thematically i feel


FTFY

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Postby Port Caverton » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:28 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:voting for "George Walker Bush was a hero" as an appropriate thread title, fairly hot take right there

EDIT: changing the title to a new hot take every now and then works thematically i feel


FTFY

FTFY
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Hukhalia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hukhalia » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:28 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:voting for "Sun Yat Sen was a hero" as an appropriate thread title, fairly hot take right there

EDIT: changing the title to a new hot take every now and then works thematically i feel


FTFY

both sun yat sen and mao were heroes
"It was this alone that drew so many Europeans to colonial North America: the dream in the settler mind of each man becoming a petty lord of his own land. Thus, the tradition of individualism and egalitarianism in America was rooted in the poisoned concept of equal privileges for a new nation of European conquerors." J. Sakai

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Meadowfields
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Meadowfields » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:29 pm

Hukhalia wrote:voting for "no politician ever was a hero" as an appropriate thread title, fairly hot take right there

EDIT: changing the title to a new hot take every now and then works thematically i feel

FTFY
The Most Serene Republic of Meadowfields
Nous nous relèverons des larmes du passé
Overview | History | Politics | Religion | Trivia
News ✉ | Over 500 arrests made in connection to "Kiss of the Devil" killings, former suspect ruled a decoy | Death toll from Ashbrid freeze reaches 130,000 as 30% of the 35 million-full city has been evacuated | Large step in preserving rare three-antlered deer as last female reproduces | House of Assembly debates replacing "ineffective" semi-presidential system with a full parliamentary system | Weather ☀ | Meadowfields City ⛈ -1°/-9°C | Ashbrid ❄ -80°/-85°C | Teshig ☀ 21°/14°C | Goofariask ☀ 5°/-1°C | Orkhusgol ☀ 20°/12°C |
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Untecna
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Untecna » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:29 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Untecna wrote:Pineapple is a sin

You bastard

Fuck pineapple
Californian

Dragon with internet access

Unironically still in NSG discussions, now turned to slight shitposting to make it fun for everyone else me and me only.

I'm queer

Heloin's, perhaps, unwanted accountant

Don't use my old posts to judge me, I was cringe af

Naan Violence, y'all.

Political Beliefs
TL;DR: I'm a democratic socialist. Surprise Surprise, I don't support genocide or violence.

Go 49rs

Untecna wrote:No, and you can talk to my dragon lawyers if you dragon want me to dragon shut up.

Hemakral wrote:damn bro that wall so thick kool-aid man couldn't bust through

[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.

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The Jamesian Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:30 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
FTFY

both sun yat sen and mao were heroes


Sun Yat Sen’s only bad take was allowing Chiang Kai Shek to be a part of the Kuomintang tbh.

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Meadowfields
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Postby Meadowfields » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:30 pm

Untecna wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:You bastard

Fuck pineapple

Too sour and sharp for me.
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Nous nous relèverons des larmes du passé
Overview | History | Politics | Religion | Trivia
News ✉ | Over 500 arrests made in connection to "Kiss of the Devil" killings, former suspect ruled a decoy | Death toll from Ashbrid freeze reaches 130,000 as 30% of the 35 million-full city has been evacuated | Large step in preserving rare three-antlered deer as last female reproduces | House of Assembly debates replacing "ineffective" semi-presidential system with a full parliamentary system | Weather ☀ | Meadowfields City ⛈ -1°/-9°C | Ashbrid ❄ -80°/-85°C | Teshig ☀ 21°/14°C | Goofariask ☀ 5°/-1°C | Orkhusgol ☀ 20°/12°C |
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:30 pm

New poll
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"That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom – and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth."
Overview | Northern Seleucian Army | NDSS System | NS Policies | About Me
National News: Controversial study shows women are 67% more like to die from surgical complications if surgeon is a male janitor opposed to a female doctor - Feminists celebrate | Body found stuffed inside a Duffel Bag - May be a Homicide | Companies have painted their coal power plants green to give the impression of being environmentally friendly. | Breathing Oxygen recently linked to Staying Alive - Oxygen sales boom.

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The Jamesian Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:32 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
FTFY

FTFY


FTFY

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Northern Seleucia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Seleucia » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:32 pm

Alright, send your hottest takes and we'll vote to see who goes up first.
The Federal Republic of Northern Seleucia
"That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom – and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth."
Overview | Northern Seleucian Army | NDSS System | NS Policies | About Me
National News: Controversial study shows women are 67% more like to die from surgical complications if surgeon is a male janitor opposed to a female doctor - Feminists celebrate | Body found stuffed inside a Duffel Bag - May be a Homicide | Companies have painted their coal power plants green to give the impression of being environmentally friendly. | Breathing Oxygen recently linked to Staying Alive - Oxygen sales boom.

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Port Caverton
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:32 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:FTFY


FTFY

"My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

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Red Lake Circle
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Founded: May 05, 2022
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Red Lake Circle » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:33 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:Alright, send your hottest takes and we'll vote to see who goes up first.

Lawns should be banned
✶ ✶ ✶ The Naturalist Federation of Red Lake ✶ ✶ ✶
"For Nature and Liberty!"
- AHAKS NEWS RADIO -
08/07/1582 1430 GST: After being voted up 73-27 in the Ecumenical Council, The Heavenly Mandate of Fyrn institutes additional restrictions for non-Theoist citizens. They are no longer able to hold corporate positions above general manager, and their ability to hold property has been severely curtailed. As it stands, it's hard to say what the larger-scale consequences of this legislation may be.
Red Lake does not necssarily represent my personal views. I promise I'll make a tech factbook eventually. NS stats didn't respect the wildlife and got mauled. Language is Gothic.

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Northern Seleucia
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Founded: Aug 29, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Seleucia » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:34 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Alright, send your hottest takes and we'll vote to see who goes up first.

Lawns should be banned

That's definitely a finalist.
The Federal Republic of Northern Seleucia
"That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom – and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth."
Overview | Northern Seleucian Army | NDSS System | NS Policies | About Me
National News: Controversial study shows women are 67% more like to die from surgical complications if surgeon is a male janitor opposed to a female doctor - Feminists celebrate | Body found stuffed inside a Duffel Bag - May be a Homicide | Companies have painted their coal power plants green to give the impression of being environmentally friendly. | Breathing Oxygen recently linked to Staying Alive - Oxygen sales boom.

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Hukhalia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hukhalia » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:34 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:Alright, send your hottest takes and we'll vote to see who goes up first.

the USSR under stalin and PRC under mao were the most democratic societies to ever exist during their time
"It was this alone that drew so many Europeans to colonial North America: the dream in the settler mind of each man becoming a petty lord of his own land. Thus, the tradition of individualism and egalitarianism in America was rooted in the poisoned concept of equal privileges for a new nation of European conquerors." J. Sakai

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