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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:03 pm

This is a new thread all about fighter jets - from the humble beginnings in WW2, to the MiGs and Sabres of Korea, to the Phantom of Vietnam, and beyond. We can talk about specifications, performance, systems, avionics, and all other stuff about fighter jets, of course keeping in line with Forum Rules.

This includes the first fighter jets, first generation planes of the early 1950s, second generation, third generation, fourth generation, fifth generation, and beyond. Jets of all nations are discussed here, so American, Soviet/Russian, British, etc are all welcome. Combat experience for planes is also a discussion topic.
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Postby Soveiniesberg » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:05 pm

Does CAS aircraft count as a "fighter jet"?
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:06 pm

Soveiniesberg wrote:Does CAS aircraft count as a "fighter jet"?

For our purposes, sure.
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Postby Libertyvilla » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:20 pm

The su57 is best 5th gen plane

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:21 pm

Libertyvilla wrote:The su57 is best 5th gen plane

Change my mind


It literally has exposed rivets lol, it's 5th gen in name only.
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Postby Libertyvilla » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:22 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:The su57 is best 5th gen plane

Change my mind


It literally has exposed rivets lol, it's 5th gen in name only.

It probably has some secret tech thats why russia only has a few

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Postby Soveiniesberg » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:22 pm

Libertyvilla wrote:The su57 is best 5th gen plane

Change my mind


bro what

we know it's just another russian piece of (not as great) garbage

honestly if anything i'd go for a f-35 over the su-57

dunno if f-35 is 5th gen tho, too busy to google rn
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:23 pm

Libertyvilla wrote:The su57 is best 5th gen plane

Change my mind

There are, unironically, the same number of serial production Felons still flying as the amount of "e's" in that comment - 5.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:23 pm

Soveiniesberg wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:The su57 is best 5th gen plane

Change my mind


bro what

we know it's just another russian piece of (not as great) garbage

honestly if anything i'd go for a f-35 over the su-57

dunno if f-35 is 5th gen tho, too busy to google rn

It is a 5th Gen. F-22, F-35, J-10 (China) and Su-57 are all 5th Gen.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:24 pm

Libertyvilla wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It literally has exposed rivets lol, it's 5th gen in name only.

It probably has some secret tech thats why russia only has a few


Na, that's just because it costs a lot of money and the Russian MIC isn't really adept at cranking out lots of high tech stuff.

It is still probably a solid plane, it has thrust vectoring after all, but it'd probably struggle a fair bit against an F-22.
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Postby Libertyvilla » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:24 pm

Soveiniesberg wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:The su57 is best 5th gen plane

Change my mind


bro what

we know it's just another russian piece of (not as great) garbage

honestly if anything i'd go for a f-35 over the su-57

dunno if f-35 is 5th gen tho, too busy to google rn

I feel like yall underestimate it though so like dont yall think it has the slightest bit of power???

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Postby Soveiniesberg » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:24 pm

Libertyvilla wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It literally has exposed rivets lol, it's 5th gen in name only.

It probably has some secret tech thats why russia only has a few

probably borrowed F117 stealth tech from china which china stole from the US in serbia (will add details if you bug me enough times)
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Postby Libertyvilla » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:25 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:It probably has some secret tech thats why russia only has a few


Na, that's just because it costs a lot of money and the Russian MIC isn't really adept at cranking out lots of high tech stuff.

It is still probably a solid plane, it has thrust vectoring after all, but it'd probably struggle a fair bit against an F-22.

but I mean i thought the f22 was underates anyway?

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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:26 pm

Soveiniesberg wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:It probably has some secret tech thats why russia only has a few

probably borrowed F117 stealth tech from china which china stole from the US in serbia (will add details if you bug me enough times)

There was a reason why the F-117 wasn't bombed or destroyed too. The tech was supposedly outdated already.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:27 pm

Libertyvilla wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Na, that's just because it costs a lot of money and the Russian MIC isn't really adept at cranking out lots of high tech stuff.

It is still probably a solid plane, it has thrust vectoring after all, but it'd probably struggle a fair bit against an F-22.

but I mean i thought the f22 was underates anyway?


The F-22 is still arguably the greatest combat plane ever made, and will probably only be eclipsed in that regard by NGAD when it gets adopted later this decade.
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Postby Libertyvilla » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:27 pm

Soveiniesberg wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:It probably has some secret tech thats why russia only has a few

probably borrowed F117 stealth tech from china which china stole from the US in serbia (will add details if you bug me enough times)

Whixh means they inproved it no?

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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:but I mean i thought the f22 was underates anyway?


The F-22 is still arguably the greatest combat plane ever made, and will probably only be eclipsed in that regard by NGAD when it gets adopted later this decade.

Shame they cut production at 187. Would have liked to see more, but alas, I'll be redeemed with NGAD which is already flying.
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Postby Libertyvilla » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:29 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:but I mean i thought the f22 was underates anyway?


The F-22 is still arguably the greatest combat plane ever made, and will probably only be eclipsed in that regard by NGAD when it gets adopted later this decade.

i heard online russia has tracked it and destroyed one over Ukraine. I think on 4chan????

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:32 pm

Libertyvilla wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The F-22 is still arguably the greatest combat plane ever made, and will probably only be eclipsed in that regard by NGAD when it gets adopted later this decade.

i heard online russia has tracked it and destroyed one over Ukraine. I think on 4chan????


Yeah that's fake as fuck lmao
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:33 pm

Libertyvilla wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The F-22 is still arguably the greatest combat plane ever made, and will probably only be eclipsed in that regard by NGAD when it gets adopted later this decade.

i heard online russia has tracked it and destroyed one over Ukraine. I think on 4chan????

No, not at all.
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Postby Libertyvilla » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:34 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:i heard online russia has tracked it and destroyed one over Ukraine. I think on 4chan????


Yeah that's fake as fuck lmao

so wait they also said Su57 is fighting in Ukraine and is unstoppbale and that NATO is afraid of it because there are tons of them

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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:35 pm

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Yeah that's fake as fuck lmao

so wait they also said Su57 is fighting in Ukraine and is unstoppbale and that NATO is afraid of it because there are tons of them

I mean, five serial planes, sure, that's tons I guess.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:35 pm

Libertyvilla wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yeah that's fake as fuck lmao

so wait they also said Su57 is fighting in Ukraine and is unstoppbale and that NATO is afraid of it because there are tons of them


There's only 3-4 Su-57's in active service with the Russian air force, they sure as hell aren't doing anything other than looking pretty on video right now. The other 15 or so are prototype units that Sukhoi is still doing whatever with.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:37 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:so wait they also said Su57 is fighting in Ukraine and is unstoppbale and that NATO is afraid of it because there are tons of them


There's only 3-4 Su-57's in active service with the Russian air force, they sure as hell aren't doing anything other than looking pretty on video right now. The other 15 or so are prototype units that Sukhoi is still doing whatever with.

With that said, the Felon is not an ugly plane. I do like the looks behind her.
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Postby Libertyvilla » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:38 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:so wait they also said Su57 is fighting in Ukraine and is unstoppbale and that NATO is afraid of it because there are tons of them


There's only 3-4 Su-57's in active service with the Russian air force, they sure as hell aren't doing anything other than looking pretty on video right now. The other 15 or so are prototype units that Sukhoi is still doing whatever with.

What about those other migs they have. Cant they overpowet the u.s air force?

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