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Would you buy any of these combat dinosaurs?

1. Yes, I would try to bid for one or more of the dinosaurs, with the dinosaurs, I would have the means to influence the next world war/big regional conflict while pocketing billions.
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2. I would leave the auction. Dinosaurs are useless in the modern battlefield. They would literally get shot down within seconds of deployment in a modern battlefield even if your enemies had nothing but Somali grade AK-47s.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:51 am

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You are an arms dealer. You attend a convention of arms dealers somewhere in the USA. There is a massive auction and what is being sold is a long list of caged genetically engineered combat dinosaurs advertised as being "perfect for the modern battlefield." The host of the auction demos the prize object of the auction, a large T Rex sized monster with "advanced instincts" and "high intelligence" that will target and destroy anything you can target with a laser pointer.

All around you, the other arms dealers are excited and start to bid in the millions.

Do you see any value in bidding for dinosaurs? Are they relevant in the modern battlefield?

Assume that the technology to revive dinosaurs is already out in the world but highly highly regulated.

Your options:
1. Yes, I would try to bid for one or more of the dinosaurs, with the dinosaurs, I would have the means to influence the next world war/big regional conflict while pocketing billions.
2. I would leave the auction. Dinosaurs are useless in the modern battlefield. They would literally get shot down within seconds of deployment in a modern battlefield even if your enemies had nothing but Somali grade AK-47s.


Please justify your response.

I would go for option 2. Auctioning dinosaurs as "modern weapons" is some serious joker business. If I could get into position to target enemies with lasers I'd want to call in artillery, missiles, or airplanes to attack, not some dinosaur that will just get gunned down. What a joke.
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Postby Communist Beijing Must be China » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:56 am

I'd go with option 2, Infected Mushrooms already pointed out the thing I was gonna mention about them; they're big as a skyscraper in a nutshell, so it's insanely easy to shoot them down. It's much harder to shoot a human than a dinosaur because dinosaurs are much bigger. It's obvious; I don't see a reason for others to go with option 1.

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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:27 am

Option 2, because your opponents just need another laser pointer to have the dinosaurs targeting your own soldiers and equipment. It's fire pigs and elephants.
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Postby Risottia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:21 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following hypothetical:

You are an arms dealer. You attend a convention of arms dealers somewhere in the USA. There is a massive auction and what is being sold is a long list of caged genetically engineered combat dinosaurs advertised as being "perfect for the modern battlefield." The host of the auction demos the prize object of the auction, a large T Rex sized monster with "advanced instincts" and "high intelligence" that will target and destroy anything you can target with a laser pointer.

:rofl:

A dinosaur. A carnivorous warm-blooded one, to boot.
Something that can run slower than an ultra-compact utility car, tires before a human does, consumes a shitton of meat per day and shits a shitton per day, is bigger than a frickin' MBT, is warm, would trigger any landmine by walking on it, isn't armoured, and even requires a human operator to be within laser-pointer range.

Seriously, I'd rather buy some T-72s from any Ukrainian farmer.
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Postby Haganham » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:31 am

1. I wanna dinosaur!
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Postby Kerwa » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:38 am

I would definitely buy the dinosaurs because THEY ARE DINOSAURS!

How awesome would it be to own a laser guided T-Rex? I wouldn’t use it for war though, I would just have it kill my arch enemies on my secret island after I had long windedly explained my ridiculously over elaborate plot for world domination. There’d probably be a gourmet dinner involved too, as well as a hyper attractive young lady in a sexy designer costume.

Who wouldn’t do that.

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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:48 am

Kerwa wrote:I...
Who wouldn’t do that.


Practical people.

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:52 am

Some dinosaur specimens would perhaps have some utility to the right buyers, but its probably not for any military uses. Its highly dangerous and expensive to keep detained but is easy enough to kill with the weapons we have, but also rare enough that you wouldn't want to if there is less lethal alternatives for getting it caged or into a controllable environment.

Its verified that a ton of the dinosaurs which didn't go extinct, are now what we call birds.

https://www.birdlife.org/news/2021/12/2 ... w-we-know/
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:57 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following hypothetical:

You are an arms dealer. You attend a convention of arms dealers somewhere in the USA. There is a massive auction and what is being sold is a long list of caged genetically engineered combat dinosaurs advertised as being "perfect for the modern battlefield." The host of the auction demos the prize object of the auction, a large T Rex sized monster with "advanced instincts" and "high intelligence" that will target and destroy anything you can target with a laser pointer.

All around you, the other arms dealers are excited and start to bid in the millions.

Do you see any value in bidding for dinosaurs? Are they relevant in the modern battlefield?

Assume that the technology to revive dinosaurs is already out in the world but highly highly regulated.

Your options:
1. Yes, I would try to bid for one or more of the dinosaurs, with the dinosaurs, I would have the means to influence the next world war/big regional conflict while pocketing billions.
2. I would leave the auction. Dinosaurs are useless in the modern battlefield. They would literally get shot down within seconds of deployment in a modern battlefield even if your enemies had nothing but Somali grade AK-47s.


Please justify your response.

I would go for option 2. Auctioning dinosaurs as "modern weapons" is some serious joker business. If I could get into position to target enemies with lasers I'd want to call in artillery, missiles, or airplanes to attack, not some dinosaur that will just get gunned down. What a joke.


Clearly what I need to do is con out of their money this idiot clown who's got the resources to genetically engineer dinosaurs but somehow expects an arms dealer to believe that they are "perfect" for modern battlefields.
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Postby Kerwa » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:00 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
Kerwa wrote:I...
Who wouldn’t do that.


Practical people.


Well then they are beige and boring. This is exactly what’s wrong with the world.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:02 am

Putting aside the ethical implications of using a living animal as a weapon, no, a theropod dinosaur would not be a useful weapon on a 21st century battlefield.

Well, except maybe carrier pigeons. And hawks, for catching the enemy's carrier pigeons.
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Postby Sarcassia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:08 am

2 obviously. I'd prefer to not have some guy with a brown bess shoot down my multi million dollar genetically modified T-Rex.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:01 am

Can’t imagine a scenario where a battle dinosaur makes sense to be honest. It’d be like training a rare Siberian tiger for war, needlessly expensive and significantly less convenient then a drone.
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Postby Perikuresu » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:05 am

Wasn't the whole making dinosaurs for military shtick one of the stupid things people hated about the Jurassic World (not Park) movies?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:07 am

Perikuresu wrote:Wasn't the whole making dinosaurs for military shtick one of the stupid things people hated about the Jurassic World (not Park) movies?


Exactly. We have a winner!!!! :clap:
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:18 am

I would not buy a dinosaur.

It would have troubles handling a gun.
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Postby Dogmeat » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:40 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Perikuresu wrote:Wasn't the whole making dinosaurs for military shtick one of the stupid things people hated about the Jurassic World (not Park) movies?


Exactly. We have a winner!!!! :clap:

Did you really create this thread just because you didn't like one dumb plot point in Jurassic World?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:45 am

I would challenge your dinosaur with my army of kiwi's

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:46 am

No i would not buy a dinosaur, it would be absolutely useless in a combat situation.
Perikuresu wrote:Wasn't the whole making dinosaurs for military shtick one of the stupid things people hated about the Jurassic World (not Park) movies?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:47 am

Dogmeat wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Exactly. We have a winner!!!! :clap:

Did you really create this thread just because you didn't like one dumb plot point in Jurassic World?

Considering he complained about real world Balkanisation being inspired by a potential plot point from Game of Thrones (lol), then made a thread trying to justify cultural genocide in a hypothetical situation where he gave off about Balkanisation.... yeah he probably did.
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Postby Dogmeat » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:47 am

Ethel mermania wrote:I would challenge your dinosaur with my army of kiwi's

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That is still an army of dinosaurs.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:49 am

I see no point in these dinosaurs, frankly other than wasting money. Planes, tanks, and explosives could take them out. They could go wild and eat their owners. No combined arms operations because they can, quite frankly, just step on one of the friendlies.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:49 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:I would not buy a dinosaur.

It would have troubles handling a gun.

Screw the minigun on it's head and open fire.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:50 am

Dogmeat wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I would challenge your dinosaur with my army of kiwi's

(Image)

That is still an army of dinosaurs.

Evolved dinosaurs, with lasers.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:52 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:That is still an army of dinosaurs.

Evolved dinosaurs, with lasers.

I need one for home defense. Imagine robbing my house to see a flightless bird. You shrug it off, only for it to grow, destroying my roof in the process, and develop green laser eyes and destroy everything within a five mile radius, including me. No one will wanna rob my house, and my neighbors, knowing what will happen, will shoot the home invader before they even make it to my doorstep, knowing full well what happened last time.
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