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[RESUBMITTED] Liberate The Communist Nations of The World

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[RESUBMITTED] Liberate The Communist Nations of The World

Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 12:18 pm

Observing the closure of the raid on The Communist Nations of The World a few weeks back, conducted mostly by The Communist Bloc and The Brotherhood of Malice,

Noting that the raid was unjustified, imperialistic, and has destroyed peace for no reason.

Recalling that the justification used for the raid was out-of-date and was describing the old regime, or old leaders of the region which had before the invasion been destroyed and exiled in The Communist Lands to which a mass-incident occurred, which was finally silenced in a mandated peace,

Appalled that power was used in such a tyrannical and unjustified manner,

Noting it was followed by a large and unfair propaganda campaign, which used exaggerated, manipulated, and in some cases, outright false claims to run a smear campaign on the natives of The Communist Nations of The World,

Observing that The Communist Bloc and its leadership have been found of many pro-genocide views, which contradicts their manner as a 'vanguard of leftist ideals',

Recalling that actions of silencing and intimidating were taken were used to silence a large amount of anti-New Astri (the current First Minister and then Second Minister of The Communist Bloc) nations and regions who were pursuing their agenda in a peaceful manner,

Further recalling that instances of silencing have been used inside The Communist Bloc by New Astri and aligned nations multiple times, contradicting their title as 'vanguard of leftist ideals' and TCB being a democracy,

Noting that an invasion of a reforming true leftist region is anti-leftist and contradicts their justification as a 'vanguard of leftist ideals',

Acknowledging that a successful take-back of the region requires a successful Liberation clause in the Security Council,

Further acknowledging that stopping tyranny, and protecting democracy, requires to Liberate The Communist Nations of The World,

Hereby liberates The Communist Nations of The World.

WBRSL- Will be resubmitted later.
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri May 27, 2022 12:21 pm

Why do you want to Liberate a region you've moved on from?
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Postby The Orwell Society » Fri May 27, 2022 12:22 pm

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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 12:25 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Why do you want to Liberate a region you've moved on from?


Just because we have transferred to another region does not mean we have forgotten our cause. Of course, TCNTW will not be pursuable in the future after a liberation- but tyranny must be stopped in its tracks.

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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 12:25 pm

The Orwell Society wrote:Opposed


Respectfully, would you mind explaining why?

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Postby The Orwell Society » Fri May 27, 2022 12:30 pm

Burgundu wrote:
The Orwell Society wrote:Opposed


Respectfully, would you mind explaining why?

Because it was raided for good reason.
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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 12:34 pm

The Orwell Society wrote:
Burgundu wrote:
Respectfully, would you mind explaining why?

Because it was raided for good reason.


What good reasons?

Provide evidence if you can, all evidence provided from TCB has been proven as old, before the regime change and the transphobes or homophobes that were there are now either banned or gone from TCNTW/TFPU

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Postby The Orwell Society » Fri May 27, 2022 12:37 pm

Burgundu wrote:
The Orwell Society wrote:Because it was raided for good reason.


What good reasons?

Provide evidence if you can, all evidence provided from TCB has been proven as old, before the regime change and the transphobes or homophobes that were there are now either banned or gone from TCNTW/TFPU

Yes, they are gone, but that doesn't mean the raid was unjustified. TCB raided it to send a message, that transphobia and homophobia is wrong. There is no reason to liberate the region.m
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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 12:39 pm

The Orwell Society wrote:
Burgundu wrote:
What good reasons?

Provide evidence if you can, all evidence provided from TCB has been proven as old, before the regime change and the transphobes or homophobes that were there are now either banned or gone from TCNTW/TFPU

Yes, they are gone, but that doesn't mean the raid was unjustified. TCB raided it to send a message, that transphobia and homophobia is wrong. There is no reason to liberate the region.m


They were gone before the raid happened. The natives of the region had a lomg civil war they had won and reformed it to a democratic and LGBTQ-allied region.

TCB didn't send the message that they oppose transphobia or homophobia, they sent the message that they support fascist pseudo-leftists like Nordors and will avenge them.

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Postby Saksoni » Fri May 27, 2022 12:42 pm

Orwell society, its same if somebody attacked germany after ww2 to make sure they know that killing 80 milion people in name of living space they will never use is bad.
Since they support bassically what nazis official name was, and i know what nordors did, i will let you know im AGAINST this.
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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 12:46 pm

Saksoni wrote:Orwell society, its same if somebody attacked germany after ww2 to make sure they know that killing 80 milion people in name of living space they will never use is bad.
Since they support bassically what nazis official name was, and i know what nordors did, i will let you know im AGAINST this.


Nordors was one of the dictatorial oppressors of the natives and was deposed in our long civil war, to which after they left to TCL and then tried to return to CU and were ejected.

+ I meant to banject him but accidentally ejected him, wouldve done worse.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri May 27, 2022 2:16 pm

As well as not giving any particularly good reason for a Liberation it’s probably also illegal. I’ll let you try and figure out why.
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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 2:19 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:As well as not giving any particularly good reason for a Liberation it’s also illegal. I’ll let you try and figure out why.


Is the reason that the raid was done in a false and unjustified manner not good enough for a Liberation?

Could you define how it is illegal?

Lol, I saw you just changed it to probably illegal.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri May 27, 2022 2:23 pm

Burgundu wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:As well as not giving any particularly good reason for a Liberation it’s also illegal. I’ll let you try and figure out why.


Is the reason that the raid was done in a false and unjustified manner not good enough for a Liberation?

Could you define how it is illegal?

Nope, as far as I can see the region deserved it. Check your third clause against the SC rules,
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RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

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Postby ImperialRussia » Fri May 27, 2022 2:23 pm

Lmao

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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 2:29 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Burgundu wrote:
Is the reason that the raid was done in a false and unjustified manner not good enough for a Liberation?

Could you define how it is illegal?

Nope, as far as I can see the region deserved it. Check your third clause against the SC rules,


How so did we deserve it?

Did we the new-regime perhaps do something wrong by removing our own region's extremely homophobic dictator leader nations from power, including a larp socialist who was actually a fascist?

Did we do something wrong by going against New Astri and recognizing their history of banning nations that have the slightest issue with their policies?

Did we do something wrong by noting that TCB leadership (pro-New Astri) has reflected sentiments of not recognizing a genocide?
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri May 27, 2022 2:35 pm

By the way when I say something like probably illegal I’m 95% certain it’s illegal, but there’s always a small chance I’m wrong.

After all, I‘ve been critiquing SC drafts for far longer than your nation has been in existence.
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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 2:37 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:By the way when I say something like probably illegal I’m 95% certain it’s illegal, but there’s always a small chance I’m wrong.

After all, I‘ve been critiquing SC drafts for far longer than your nation has been in existence.


In what aspects would it be illegal?
I just reviewed the rules- I don't seem to find anything.

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Legality Check Request

Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 2:38 pm

I also request a legality check if possible from a moderator

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Postby Comfed » Fri May 27, 2022 2:40 pm

I also think it is illegal for violating the SC/WA perspective rule.
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Postby Onionist Randosia » Fri May 27, 2022 2:41 pm

Burgundu wrote:I also request a legality check if possible from a moderator

From what I can see, ‘moderator-mandated peace’ is probably illegal for mentioning the moderators. If you want to make it legal, change it to ‘peace mandated by forces beyond our plane of existence’ or something.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri May 27, 2022 2:41 pm

Burgundu wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:By the way when I say something like probably illegal I’m 95% certain it’s illegal, but there’s always a small chance I’m wrong.

After all, I‘ve been critiquing SC drafts for far longer than your nation has been in existence.


In what aspects would it be illegal?
I just reviewed the rules- I don't seem to find anything.

Try harder - R3(b).

Edit: Onionist is correct, also flame war is probably illegal.
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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 2:42 pm

Comfed wrote:I also think it is illegal for violating the SC/WA perspective rule.


Could you link that rule, please? Can't seem to find it in the SC rules.

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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 2:43 pm

Onionist Randosia wrote:
Burgundu wrote:I also request a legality check if possible from a moderator

From what I can see, ‘moderator-mandated peace’ is probably illegal for mentioning the moderators. If you want to make it legal, change it to ‘peace mandated by forces beyond our plane of existence’ or something.


Fixed that up.

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Postby Burgundu » Fri May 27, 2022 2:45 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Burgundu wrote:
In what aspects would it be illegal?
I just reviewed the rules- I don't seem to find anything.

Try harder - R3(b).

Edit: Onionist is correct, also flame war is probably illegal.


Alright, however many of the points are required to justify the Liberation. They are a large piece of context that would really affect the perception to someone's opinion.

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