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Cornish independence

Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed May 25, 2022 1:25 pm

There is an independence not yet discussed on this forum. That independence is the independence of Cornwall, a little peninsula sticking off the west of England into the Atlantic. Cornwall is widely considered to be a separate Celtic nation, like Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and Brittany. There's a Cornish nationalist party, Mebyon Kernow, that advocates for Cornish devolution and independence.

In a 2015 survey, half of people in Cornwall identified as "only Cornish not English" - not even 5% said the opposite. Another quarter identified as "more Cornish than English". But some polling doesn't agree: in 2019, one poll said that 62% of people in Cornwall consider themselves English. The Campaign for an English Parliament, apparently with nothing better to do, suggested that Cornish activists should just give up. But Mebyon Kernow clapped back, pointing out that a sample size of 200 is unreliable and the findings conflicted with those of more reliable polls.

Cornwall has a proud history of rebellion. They rebelled twice in 1497, and again in 1549. During the English Civil War, they sided with the Crown to protect their own privileges. One of them even got thrown in prison for trying to proclaim an autonomous Cornwall. This tradition of rebellion continues even today, as Cornish terrorists threaten to bomb and burn English-owned businesses and homes.

What do you think, NSG? Personally, I don't support Cornish independence. Honestly, it doesn't really make any sense. The Cornish economy revolves almost entirely around tourism, and although the Cornish hate English tourists most of them wouldn't have any jobs without their presence. Also, their language died out and they had to make a conlang to replace it.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 25, 2022 1:26 pm

I support every part of Britain becoming independent except northern England.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed May 25, 2022 1:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I support every part of Britain becoming independent except northern England.

You do realise that would make us independent by default, right?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 25, 2022 1:28 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I support every part of Britain becoming independent except northern England.

You do realise that would make us independent by default, right?


No, you remain part of London's domain.
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Postby Heloin » Wed May 25, 2022 1:28 pm

I stand totally and unwaveringly by my little Cornish bois. Onen hag oll, never surrender to the Saxon.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed May 25, 2022 1:29 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:You do realise that would make us independent by default, right?


No, you remain part of London's domain.

Google Londependence.
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Postby Catalonia 2070 RP » Wed May 25, 2022 1:30 pm

I support the partition of Britain and even England as long as the populations majority desire such action

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Postby Heloin » Wed May 25, 2022 1:31 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Also, their language died out and they had to make a conlang to replace it.

Nice to see your continued disdain for the Celtic peoples of Britain like a shining beacon for all passing ships to see.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed May 25, 2022 1:32 pm

Heloin wrote:I stand totally and unwaveringly by my little Cornish bois. Onen hag oll, never surrender to the Saxon.

Well, they already did. Though there are some Cornish nationalists who like to pretend they didn't, and were independent until 1549.

Heloin wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Also, their language died out and they had to make a conlang to replace it.

Nice to see your continued disdain for the Celtic peoples of Britain like a shining beacon for all passing ships to see.

It's a fact.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed May 25, 2022 1:33 pm

Heloin wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Also, their language died out and they had to make a conlang to replace it.

Nice to see your continued disdain for the Celtic peoples of Britain like a shining beacon for all passing ships to see.


Yes, well, we've covered that one already.

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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed May 25, 2022 1:34 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
Heloin wrote:Nice to see your continued disdain for the Celtic peoples of Britain like a shining beacon for all passing ships to see.


Yes, well, we've covered that one already.

Hebrew, Ge'ez, and Coptic never died out, unlike Cornish.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed May 25, 2022 1:36 pm

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Postby Hukhalia » Wed May 25, 2022 1:36 pm

cornwall deserves autonomy but functionally it wouldn't be able to administer itself as an independent state lol. like most of the celtic nations on the british isles, it appears to gain a lot of sympathy from totally detached foreign e-leftists with no idea how things work here and little understanding of the political context to the movements they stan. cornwall, scotland, and wales are all totally integrated into the world imperial core, and the whole unionist vs. nationalist divide in britain is just a long-time wanking contest between westminster and the devolved administrations over who gets what position on the core's totem-pole.

if there was an actually substantive revolutionary movement in one of the celtic nations which supported celtic nationalism, then they'd have my support against unionism in the same way that a revolutionary movement that was all-british and unionist would have my support over the SNP, Plaid Cymru, etc. but cornwall? anyone who advocates for cornish independence has in all likeliness never been to cornwall and usually finds itself in the domain of LARPy americans who can't help but treat foreign politics like spectator sports
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Wed May 25, 2022 1:36 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Yes, well, we've covered that one already.

Hebrew, Ge'ez, and Coptic never died out, unlike Cornish.

Wow, you really don't know how modern Hebrew became a thing, do you?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 25, 2022 1:36 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Yes, well, we've covered that one already.

Hebrew, Ge'ez, and Coptic never died out, unlike Cornish.


This is actually as silly as saying Latin never died out because the RCC uses some bastardized version of it still for ritual.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed May 25, 2022 1:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Hebrew, Ge'ez, and Coptic never died out, unlike Cornish.


This is actually as silly as saying Latin never died out because the RCC uses some bastardized version of it still for ritual.

That's right, it didn't. But that's not really relevant to Cornish independence.

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Hebrew, Ge'ez, and Coptic never died out, unlike Cornish.

Wow, you really don't know how modern Hebrew became a thing, do you?

It didn't die out, that's the important thing.
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Postby Heloin » Wed May 25, 2022 1:41 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:I look forward to your thread on Sercquiais independence.

All power to the Chief Pleas!

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Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
Heloin wrote:I stand totally and unwaveringly by my little Cornish bois. Onen hag oll, never surrender to the Saxon.

Well, they already did. Though there are some Cornish nationalists who like to pretend they didn't, and were independent until 1549.

Let the name of Humphrey Arundell live long forever.

Heloin wrote:Nice to see your continued disdain for the Celtic peoples of Britain like a shining beacon for all passing ships to see.

It's a fact.

No, it's just insulting.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed May 25, 2022 1:43 pm

Heloin wrote:
It's a fact.

No, it's just insulting.

To quote a great philosopher, facts don't care about feelings.
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Postby Heloin » Wed May 25, 2022 1:47 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
Heloin wrote:
No, it's just insulting.

To quote a great philosopher, facts don't care about feelings.

Remember when he ran away from a TV interview because the presenter had the audacity to use real facts? That you don't know the difference between language revitalization and constructed languages while you proclaim a revived language to be a conlang is deeply arrogant.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed May 25, 2022 1:52 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Hebrew, Ge'ez, and Coptic never died out, unlike Cornish.

Wow, you really don't know how modern Hebrew became a thing, do you?


He doesn't know much about Ge'ez and Coptic, either - both of which are now solely liturgical languages that died out as community spoken languages well before Cornish did, and have been solely liturgical languages for centuries.

But when have simple things like historical facts ever managed to get in the way of a Nationalist Northumbria thread?

They admittedly provide some level of entertainment, but I wouldn't come to them to actually learn anything.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed May 25, 2022 1:53 pm

Heloin wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:I look forward to your thread on Sercquiais independence.

All power to the Chief Pleas!

Sark will cast off the chains of English oppression.


I think they're more worried about the chains of Guernsey oppression.

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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed May 25, 2022 1:55 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:Wow, you really don't know how modern Hebrew became a thing, do you?


He doesn't know much about Ge'ez and Coptic, either - both of which are now solely liturgical languages that died out as community spoken languages well before Cornish did, and have been solely liturgical languages for centuries.

But when have simple things like historical facts ever managed to get in the way of a Nationalist Northumbria thread?

They admittedly provide some level of entertainment, but I wouldn't come to them to actually learn anything.

As you admit yourself, people spoke them. Unlike Cornish.
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Postby Heloin » Wed May 25, 2022 1:56 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
Heloin wrote:Sark will cast off the chains of English oppression.


I think they're more worried about the chains of Guernsey oppression.

They might be but truth be told that will only leave them vulnerable to oppression by Jersey.
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Postby Reich of the New World Order » Wed May 25, 2022 2:11 pm

Why stop at Cornish independence , why not give every town independence and let them solve the independence problem. Who ever wins can be crowned the true ruler of the British Isles. If Cornwall wins then great, if not we make a monument to their effort.
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