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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 25, 2022 8:48 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yes, it would be. And given the PIRA's command structure still exists in some form it's probably not something the British want to restart.


Is it acceptable in this day and age to influence the UK’s sovereignty issues with threats/implied threats of terrorism?

“Well… as an extra argument on their side, if we don’t agree, they might start bombing us. At least their more extremist elements.”

That’s not really okay right? How good are the UK’s counter terrorist and law enforcement units? And would Ireland cooperate?


That's usually how peace agreements work in situations like this. Everyone stops fighting, comes to the table, agrees to a set of guidelines both sides respect and if anyone starts breaking them the fighting comes back.
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Postby Heloin » Wed May 25, 2022 9:01 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yes, it would be. And given the PIRA's command structure still exists in some form it's probably not something the British want to restart.


Is it acceptable in this day and age to influence the UK’s sovereignty issues with threats/implied threats of terrorism?

“Well… as an extra argument on their side, if we don’t agree, they might start bombing us. At least their more extremist elements.”

That’s kind of how peace generally works. Then hope the peace is good enough to keep everyone checking their own extremist elements from bringing back the war

That’s not really okay right?

Sure it is.

How good are the UK’s counter terrorist and law enforcement units?

Sometimes effective, generally quite shit.

And would Ireland cooperate?

If Northern Ireland wanted to unite? By and large popular south of the border.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed May 25, 2022 9:09 pm

How much of a good faith effort is Ireland putting into finding and arresting these potential/past terrorists?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 26, 2022 4:33 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:How much of a good faith effort is Ireland putting into finding and arresting these potential/past terrorists?

You'd like it, we have dedicated non-jury courts for dealing with members of the IRA, other terrorists, or members of organised crime gangs.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu May 26, 2022 4:38 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:How much of a good faith effort is Ireland putting into finding and arresting these potential/past terrorists?

You'd like it, we have dedicated non-jury courts for dealing with members of the IRA, other terrorists, or members of organised crime gangs.


Ah I see.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 26, 2022 4:38 am

On todays episode of "IM talks about something they know nothing about and immediately goes for extreme nonsensical options to respond to it"
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 26, 2022 4:41 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:On todays episode of "IM talks about something they know nothing about and immediately goes for extreme nonsensical options to respond to it"

Very entertaining to see someone learn about what the IRA does and go "But that's terrorism".
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 26, 2022 4:45 am

Archinstinct wrote:I welcome moves toward Irish nationalism in Northern Ireland, and concerned by move toward non-sectarianism. The Irish people have long been oppressed under the iron fist of the British, and Ireland itself is historically one of the first victims of imperialism by the British. The blight of 1847 was a ethnic genocide against catholic Irish by protestant England which angers me to think about. It still angers me to know that Ireland is still partly occupied by the British colonizers. I hope someday ALL of Ireland be free.

Northern Ireland is not occupied. A plurality of people here identify as British and want to stay in the UK and polling regarding a united Ireland has shown a consistent plurality and sometimes majority in favour of staying in the UK even if it is closer in the last few years with some polls showing a plurality in favour of unification. Northern Ireland will unify with the republic when the majority of people here want to do so.

There is also barely fuck all British soldiers here too with the majority of personnel being stationed at training facilities and the odd air base or barracks dotted around the country. I can vote for who i want, i was able to go to University, i have far far more options that my family had growing up and NI can peacefully unify with the Republic via democratic mandate when it and the republic show they want to. If the UK tried to stop this they would become a pariah state and piss off a ton of fucking people. Also drop the coloniser remarks, NI is the home of Unionists as much as it is mine, doesnt matter how they originally got here, and they will continue to live here regardless of the status of NI.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 26, 2022 4:47 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:On todays episode of "IM talks about something they know nothing about and immediately goes for extreme nonsensical options to respond to it"

Very entertaining to see someone learn about what the IRA does and go "But that's terrorism".

IRA and Terrorism?

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Postby Bistritza » Thu May 26, 2022 4:52 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:And the UK is okay with this?

Technically, Ulster is the UK, just one part of it :P
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 26, 2022 4:54 am

Bistritza wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:And the UK is okay with this?

Technically, Ulster is the UK, just one part of it :P

*Looks at the one third of Ulster in the Republic of Ireland*
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Postby Bistritza » Thu May 26, 2022 4:57 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Bistritza wrote:Technically, Ulster is the UK, just one part of it :P

*Looks at the one third of Ulster in the Republic of Ireland*

cope.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 26, 2022 4:58 am

Bistritza wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:*Looks at the one third of Ulster in the Republic of Ireland*

cope.

Read a map *shrugs* :p
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Postby German Territories » Thu May 26, 2022 5:14 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I think a state of national emergency should be considered. If Northern Ireland is maneuvered by politicians towards secession, wouldn’t this weaken the United Kingdom?

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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu May 26, 2022 5:19 am

Archinstinct wrote:I welcome moves toward Irish nationalism in Northern Ireland, and concerned by move toward non-sectarianism. The Irish people have long been oppressed under the iron fist of the British, and Ireland itself is historically one of the first victims of imperialism by the British. The blight of 1847 was a ethnic genocide against catholic Irish by protestant England which angers me to think about. It still angers me to know that Ireland is still partly occupied by the British colonizers. I hope someday ALL of Ireland be free.


'England', 'Britain', and 'the United Kingdom' are not congruent; it was a Scottish king who was responsible for planting all of those Presbyterian Scots in Ulster (and several members of Russell's cabinet in 1847 were Scots).

I mean, I don't see why the English should get all the credit blame; us Scots have taken plenty of opportunities to oppress the Irish when we've had the inclination to put our minds to it.

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Postby Bistritza » Thu May 26, 2022 5:19 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I think a state of national emergency should be considered. If Northern Ireland is maneuvered by politicians towards secession, wouldn’t this weaken the United Kingdom?

oh and, SFP has reformed their platform drastically, compared to the troubles.
so, no UK shouldn't overreact over this.
I'm sure separatists on this thread will be overly depressed with this information, though.
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