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Postby Quebecshire » Sun May 22, 2022 2:43 pm

Hello everyone! I would like to present the below draft to Commend The Noble Thatcherites (aka Thatcher), who is mainly known for being the Founder of The Union of Democratic States. This was originally being worked on by Emodea and Phoenix Coalition, then Khevo. Since it had been awhile since I heard anything about it I asked about it and ended up taking over the draft with the permission of all the previously involved authors (and the blessing of the nominee to take it up). You'll note that all of those previous contributors are credited as co-authors, which I believe is appropriate based on the very developed status of the draft I resumed. I'd like to thank those in the PfS server and those consulted privately for helping me get this ready for the forums so quickly.

I firmly believe Thatcher is one of the great community builders of modern NS, and the sustained nature of the UDS is a testament to that. Unfortunately the previous authors and I had to leave a couple of things out because of the character limit, but I believe we've hit all of the main issues and defining moments of this nation's career.

Currently it sits at 4,840 characters, all nice and under the limit.

The Security Council,

Recognizing The Noble Thatcherites, commonly referred to as “Thatcher”, as a driven and industrious nation dedicated to erecting and improving regional communities,

Noting that shortly after their creation, Thatcher founded The Union of Democratic States (UDS) and has since acted as the chief driving force behind its rousing growth into a vibrant democratic community,

Acclaiming Thatcher’s spirited efforts in building the foundations of the UDS by authoring its original constitution, a document that has heavily influenced regional governance to today, and assisting in the development of its subsequent iterations, such as with a major constitutional amendment to streamline the executive branch in 2020,

Applauding Thatcher’s extensive legislative contributions to the UDS, including creating several pivotal judicial and legislative procedures, establishing guidelines on election participation and outlining the responsibilities of a citizen; encouraging and guiding legislators to draft new legislation in a detailed and nuanced manner, increasing the overall quality of regional lawmaking,

Praising Thatcher’s prudent guidance of the UDS’ diplomatic mission since the very beginning, evident by their establishment and leadership of the Foreign Affairs Committee, a body which dictated the foreign affairs policies of the region in its early stages and initiated several long-term cultural ties with other regions such as The Rejected Realms, Conch Kingdom and Cape of Good Hope. They also served as a key negotiator in many of the region’s major treaties, including:
  • The Democratic Freedom Accords with The Free Nations Region, the first treaty alliance of the UDS and an important milestone in expanding both regions’ international presence. Despite a period of disconnect, this treaty was eventually replaced by the Gemini Covenant which rekindled the formal relationship established in the earlier agreement,
  • The Treaty of Democratic Unity with The South Pacific as the first UDS partnership with a feeder region, which established formal affiliations with a fellow champion of democratic ideals and paved the way for close cultural and military cooperation between the two regions,
  • The United Island Accord with 10000 Islands, which created a significant link with a notable protector of regional sovereignty and served as the basis for frequent cultural and military partnerships,
  • The Aurora Covenant with The East Pacific, which initiated close relations with a similarly democratic community and sparked multiple joint communal events that encouraged mutual cultural development,

Lauding Thatcher for spearheading the formation of the Union of Democratic States Armed Forces, through their authorship of the Armed Forces Establishment Act and early leadership of the organization, with the regional military since then providing regular and vital support in defender operations such as the liberation of South Pacific in 2018, the defense of Anatolia in 2019, and the liberations of Chaylia, Liberal Democratic Union, and Trovons in 2021,

Highlighting Thatcher’s remarkable service to the UDS in various other capacities, including:
  • A stellar three terms as the Prime Minister, where they launched and maintained the regional forums, introduced various unique activities to engage the population in and wisely advised officers on various matters of importance,
  • One term as Chairperson of the UDS General Assembly and one as the Speaker of the Senate (the regional legislatures) where they encouraged and ensured the involvement of all citizens in debates and votes, resulting in a record-high voter turnout; their endeavors were so successful that aspiring successors later sought to emulate them to continue progress,
  • One term as the World Assembly Delegate, where they introduced the first regional WA program, which organized democratic votes on resolutions at-vote and encouraged extensive debates about them, thereby boosting WA participation and interest in the region and inspiring future programs by delegates Dome Artan and The Glorious Hypetrain that have led the region to achieve endorsement levels on par with long established powers,

Admiring Thatcher’s critical involvement in the Union Day 5 festivities celebrating the fifth anniversary of the UDS, where they authored the legislation to create the Union Day Committee, contributed extensively to scheduling the event, and provided a lecture on early UDS history that may otherwise have remained obscure or even lost,

Believing Thatcher’s noble efforts to build a prosperous and egalitarian community in the UDS to be worthy of official recognition from this council,

Hereby commends The Noble Thatcherites.


Co-authors: Emodea, Khevo, Phoenix Coalition

The Security Council,

Recognizing The Noble Thatcherites, commonly referred to as “Thatcher” by most international diplomats, as a driven and industrious nation dedicated to erecting and improving regional communities,

Noting that shortly after their creation, Thatcher founded The Union of Democratic States (UDS) and has since acted as the chief driving force behind its rousing growth into a vibrant democratic community,

Acclaiming Thatcher’s spirited efforts in building the foundations of the UDS by authoring its original constitution, a document that has heavily influenced the region’s methods of governance even to this day, and assisting others in the creation of its subsequent iterations,

Appreciating Thatcher’s willingness to reform the UDS to keep up with changing times, leading multiple overhauls of regional infrastructure – including a major constitutional amendment to streamline the executive branch in 2020 – and lending steadfast support for endeavors to modernize the region,

Applauding Thatcher’s extensive legislative contributions to the UDS, including creating several pivotal judicial and legislative procedures, establishing guidelines on election participation and outlining the responsibilities of a citizen; they also encouraged and guided legislators to draft new legislation in a detailed and nuanced manner, increasing the overall quality of lawmaking present in the region,

Praising Thatcher’s prudent guidance of the UDS’ diplomatic mission since the very beginning, evident by their establishment and leadership of the Foreign Affairs Committee, a body which dictated the foreign affairs policies of the region in its early stages and initiated several long-term cultural ties with other regions such as The Rejected Realms, Conch Kingdom and Cape of Good Hope. They also served as a key negotiator in many of the region’s major treaties, including:
  • The Democratic Freedom Accords with The Free Nations Region, the first treaty alliance of the UDS and an important milestone in expanding both regions’ international presence. Despite a period of disconnect, this treaty was eventually replaced by the Gemini Covenant which rekindled the formal relationship established in the earlier agreement,
  • The Treaty of Democratic Unity with The South Pacific, one of the region’s first foreign partnerships and one which established formal affiliations with a fellow champion of democratic ideals and paved the way for close cultural and military cooperation between the two regions,
  • The United Island Accord with 10000 Islands, which created a significant link with an assorting protector of regional sovereignty and served as the basis for frequent cultural and military partnerships,
  • The Aurora Covenant with The East Pacific, which initiated close relations with a similarly democratic community and sparked multiple joint communal events to encourage cultural development of both regions,

Lauding Thatcher for spearheading the formation of the Union of Democratic States Armed Forces (UDSAF), the regional military force of the UDS, through their authorship of the Armed Forces Establishment Act and early leadership of the organization, which has provided regular and vital support in defender operations since its inception, most notably in the liberation of South Pacific in 2018, the defense of Anatolia in 2019, and the liberations of Chaylia, Liberal Democratic Union, and Trovons in 2021,

Highlighting Thatcher’s remarkable service to the UDS in various other capacities, including:
  • A stellar three terms as the Prime Minister, where they launched and maintained the regional forums, introduced various unique activities to engage the regional population in and wisely advised regional officers on various matters of importance,
  • One term as Chairperson of the UDS General Assembly and one as the Speaker of the Senate (the regional legislatures) where they encouraged and ensured the involvement of all citizens in debates and votes, resulting in a record-high voter turnout; the endeavors taken by them were so successful that they were later emulated by successors to achieve similar results,
  • One term as the World Assembly Delegate, where they introduced the first regional WA program, which organized democratic votes on resolutions at-vote and encouraged extensive debates about them, boosting WA participation and interest in the region, inspiring future programs by delegates Dome Artan and The Glorious Hypetrain
that have led the region to achieve endorsement levels on par with long established powers,

Admiring Thatcher’s critical involvement in the Union Day 5 festivities celebrating the fifth anniversary of the UDS, where they authored the legislation to create the Union Day Committee, contributed extensively to scheduling the event, and provided a lecture on early UDS history that may otherwise have remained obscure or even lost,

Believing Thatcher’s noble efforts to build a prosperous and egalitarian community in the UDS to be worthy of official recognition from this council,

Hereby commends The Noble Thatcherites.


The Security Council,

Recognizing The Noble Thatcherites, commonly referred to as “Thatcher” by most international diplomats, as a driven and industrious nation dedicated to erecting and improving regional communities,

Noting that shortly after their creation, Thatcher founded The Union of Democratic States (UDS) and has since acted as the chief driving force behind its rousing growth into a vibrant democratic community,

Acclaiming Thatcher’s spirited efforts in building the foundations of the UDS by authoring its original constitution, a document that has heavily influenced the region’s methods of governance even to this day, and assisting others in the creation of its subsequent iterations,

Appreciating Thatcher’s willingness to reform the UDS to keep up with changing times, leading multiple overhauls of regional infrastructure, such as a major constitutional amendment to streamline the executive branch in 2020,

Applauding Thatcher’s extensive legislative contributions to the UDS, including creating several pivotal judicial and legislative procedures, establishing guidelines on election participation and outlining the responsibilities of a citizen; they also encouraged and guided legislators to draft new legislation in a detailed and nuanced manner, increasing the overall quality of lawmaking present in the region,

Praising Thatcher’s prudent guidance of the UDS’ diplomatic mission since the very beginning, evident by their establishment and leadership of the Foreign Affairs Committee, a body which dictated the foreign affairs policies of the region in its early stages and initiated several long-term cultural ties with other regions such as The Rejected Realms, Conch Kingdom and Cape of Good Hope. They also served as a key negotiator in many of the region’s major treaties, including:
  • The Democratic Freedom Accords with The Free Nations Region, the first treaty alliance of the UDS and an important milestone in expanding both regions’ international presence. Despite a period of disconnect, this treaty was eventually replaced by the Gemini Covenant which rekindled the formal relationship established in the earlier agreement,
  • The Treaty of Democratic Unity with The South Pacific, one of the region’s first foreign partnerships and one which established formal affiliations with a fellow champion of democratic ideals and paved the way for close cultural and military cooperation between the two regions,
  • The United Island Accord with 10000 Islands, which created a significant link with an assorting protector of regional sovereignty and served as the basis for frequent cultural and military partnerships,
  • The Aurora Covenant with The East Pacific, which initiated close relations with a similarly democratic community and sparked multiple joint communal events to encourage cultural development of both regions,

Lauding Thatcher for spearheading the formation of the Union of Democratic States Armed Forces (UDSAF), the regional military force of the UDS, through their authorship of the Armed Forces Establishment Act and early leadership of the organization, which has provided regular and vital support in defender operations since its inception, most notably in the liberation of South Pacific in 2018, the defense of Anatolia in 2019, and the liberations of Chaylia, Liberal Democratic Union, and Trovons in 2021,

Highlighting Thatcher’s remarkable service to the UDS in various other capacities, including:
  • A stellar three terms as the Prime Minister, where they launched and maintained the regional forums, introduced various unique activities to engage the regional population in and wisely advised regional officers on various matters of importance,
  • One term as Chairperson of the UDS General Assembly and one as the Speaker of the Senate (the regional legislatures) where they encouraged and ensured the involvement of all citizens in debates and votes, resulting in a record-high voter turnout; the endeavors taken by them were so successful that they were later emulated by successors to achieve similar results,
  • One term as the World Assembly Delegate, where they introduced the first regional WA program, which organized democratic votes on resolutions at-vote and encouraged extensive debates about them, boosting WA participation and interest in the region, inspiring future programs by delegates Dome Artan and The Glorious Hypetrain that have led the region to achieve endorsement levels on par with long established powers,

Admiring Thatcher’s critical involvement in the Union Day 5 festivities celebrating the fifth anniversary of the UDS, where they authored the legislation to create the Union Day Committee, contributed extensively to scheduling the event, and provided a lecture on early UDS history that may otherwise have remained obscure or even lost,

Believing Thatcher’s noble efforts to build a prosperous and egalitarian community in the UDS to be worthy of official recognition from this council,

Hereby commends The Noble Thatcherites.
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Thanks for posting! Most of my concerns were addressed in earlier drafts. Support from me :)
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Support. UDS itself is commendable, and its founder even more so.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun May 22, 2022 3:14 pm

LDU, owing to the ridiculously poachy circumstances of its founding, should not have been liberated - and the lib kickstarted an annoying trend of making everything catgirl-themed for no good reason for a few weeks anyway. (The recent dousing of Sanctum and Layem in pink, blue and white was at least motivated by those regions' rampant queerphobia.) Otherwise, support.

More substantiative commentary: You have an unnecessary linebreak in the HIGHLIGHTING clause, after you namedrop The Glorious Hypetrain. Despite your assertation that Thatcher was "dedicated to erecting and improving regional communities" (plural), you only mention his work in a single community, UDS. It is tautological, or thereabouts at least, to assert that Thatcher's "support for endeavors to modernize the region" is a sign of his "willingness to reform the UDS to keep up with changing times." Nor is it ever adequately explained why Thatcher's nation is the little ant on his computer (lol :P ).
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Postby Quebecshire » Sun May 22, 2022 3:40 pm

Tinhampton wrote:LDU, owing to the ridiculously poachy circumstances of its founding, should not have been liberated - and the lib kickstarted an annoying trend of making everything catgirl-themed for no good reason for a few weeks anyway. (The recent dousing of Sanctum and Layem in pink, blue and white was at least motivated by those regions' rampant queerphobia.) Otherwise, support.

I am open to removing mention of the LDU if this is a repeated concern, mainly for character limit reasons.

Complaining about the subsequent temporary "catgirl theme" is not only weird and unnecessary but at best only very indirectly related to the clause you're critiquing.
Tinhampton wrote:More substantiative commentary: You have an unnecessary linebreak in the HIGHLIGHTING clause, after you namedrop The Glorious Hypetrain. Despite your assertation that Thatcher was "dedicated to erecting and improving regional communities" (plural), you only mention his work in a single community, UDS. It is tautological, or thereabouts at least, to assert that Thatcher's "support for endeavors to modernize the region" is a sign of his "willingness to reform the UDS to keep up with changing times." Nor is it ever adequately explained why Thatcher's nation is the little ant on his computer (lol :P ).

I have fixed the line break issue, thank you. I will consider rewording the other clause to fix the redundancy issue. I don't think the pretitle of his nation warrants direct mention (especially since we're already over the limit) unless it's a core community reference I am unaware of (in which case, I'm happy to consider it).
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Catgirls were also around way more before that when Sakana was pushing things like catgirl hivemind and the secgen campaign.

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The Orwell Society wrote:UDS itself is commendable


Typically commended regions were either massively influential, or were commended for gimmicky reasons.
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Wonderful regionalist draft for Thatcher and well-earned for sure :)
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The "Appreciating" clause has been updated to address Tinhampton's redundancy concern.
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Hoping to try some trimming edits this evening, but in the meantime, bump.
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Postby Quebecshire » Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:26 pm

Made some small edits (combined two smaller earlier clauses on constitutional development to eliminate the verbosity of the latter one) to bring it down a bit in size. Should be just below the character limit now!

Feedback still welcome!
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:20 pm

Quebecshire wrote:the Union of Democratic States Armed Forces (UDSAF)

I've said it before and I'll say it again: don't offer acronyms if you aren't going to use them.

You say that the Democratic Freedom Accords "was eventually replaced by the Gemini Covenant which rekindled the formal relationship established in the earlier agreement." Surely if a second treaty between two regions is agreed, it "rekindle[s] the formal relationship" between them by definition.

"the overall quality of lawmaking present in the region" could read "the overall quality of regional lawmaking" or similar. Just trying to cut down on characters here, sorry :P
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Postby Quebecshire » Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:36 pm

The bit about the acronym is a good point and I'll implement it (when I'm less lazy, tomorrow probably).

As for the Gemini Covenant, I like that bit how it is personally, though I like your rewording suggestions on the lawmaking parts.
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Postby Apatosaurus » Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:39 pm

Quebecshire wrote:Lauding Thatcher for spearheading the formation of the Union of Democratic States Armed Forces (UDSAF), the regional military force of the UDS, through their authorship of the Armed Forces Establishment Act and early leadership of the organization, which has provided regular and vital support in defender operations since its inception, most notably in the liberation of South Pacific in 2018, the defense of Anatolia in 2019, and the liberations of Chaylia, Liberal Democratic Union, and Trovons in 2021,


How much was Thatcher involved in these ops, if at all?

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Postby Free Algerstonia » Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:44 pm

opposed due to the catgirl issue, all catgirl references on nationstates should be removed and deleted
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i would like a formal apology from the noble thatcherites otherwise i will be opposing this draft and use all of my influence to keep this draft from passing
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:08 am

A stellar three terms as the Prime Minister, where they launched and maintained the regional forums, introduced various unique activities to engage the regional population in and wisely advised regional officers on various matters of importance,

One term as Chairperson of the UDS General Assembly and one as the Speaker of the Senate (the regional legislatures) where they encouraged and ensured the involvement of all citizens in debates and votes, resulting in a record-high voter turnout; the endeavors taken by them were so successful that they were later emulated by successors to achieve similar results,

Four uses of the word “regional” in two bullet points at least one of which is certainly redundant. Just one of those little things that bug me.

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What influence? :rofl:
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Free Algerstonia wrote:opposed due to the catgirl issue, all catgirl references on nationstates should be removed and deleted

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Postby Quebecshire » Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:48 am

Re: Apato

I don’t think that’s exceedingly relevant when placed in broader context. This isn’t a military career commend, it’s a region building one. The clause is meant to illustrate the UDSAF as one of the institutions Thatcher has been critical in building, and show that it’s been sustainable and beneficial even after his earlier and more direct involvement. It’s an argument relating to sustainability in infrastructure.

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That’s a good point, thanks for catching that! I’ll be implementing that later today with the next set of edits. That should clean it up a bit more.
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Free Algerstonia » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:59 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
A stellar three terms as the Prime Minister, where they launched and maintained the regional forums, introduced various unique activities to engage the regional population in and wisely advised regional officers on various matters of importance,

One term as Chairperson of the UDS General Assembly and one as the Speaker of the Senate (the regional legislatures) where they encouraged and ensured the involvement of all citizens in debates and votes, resulting in a record-high voter turnout; the endeavors taken by them were so successful that they were later emulated by successors to achieve similar results,

Four uses of the word “regional” in two bullet points at least one of which is certainly redundant. Just one of those little things that bug me.

Free Algerstonia wrote:i would like a formal apology from the noble thatcherites otherwise i will be opposing this draft and use all of my influence to keep this draft from passing

What influence? :rofl:

you'll see. i will make this draft absolutely collapse. i'm unstoppable
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Arpasia » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:03 am

My account will be in support of this.
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