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Grand Angland
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Election Calculator/Generator

Postby Grand Angland » Wed May 18, 2022 12:20 pm

Hey all,

I was just wondering if anybody was aware of an election calculator/generator or could give me any idea on how to build one?

I'd need one that can cater for a FPTP electoral system. I'd like it to be able to account for opinion polls and in-built seat preferences (such as demographic, historical, policy implications, incumbency bias etc). Ideally it would also be able to give me a seat-by-seat breakdown and majorities from each seat but that that is more of a nice to have. I did see one from a thread about 12 years ago that looked perfect but alas is no longer available.

Could anybody please help?

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Postby Unibot III » Wed May 18, 2022 3:58 pm

Hmm, so what I did last year to do this for a Unibot roleplay was create a Google Spreadsheet that would generate results like this.

Once I established what Unibot’s parties were and what they stood for, I went district by district and quantified how popular each party was in each district versus the overall national popular vote (e.g., 500%, -30%) based on established factors about each district (e.g., their economics, industries.)

A randomized national vote share would then get squeezed through a set of those district-by-district numbers and I would reallocate the surplus of each vote proportionally so the vote shares add up to 100% in each riding. That gave me a quasi-realistic FPTP electoral returns.

Essentially it’s a proportional swing projection, like something you’d use in a RL election, but with fictitious regional variance and random national numbers.

If you’re interested I can make a copy of my simulator sheet public for download, so others can just download and edit the sheet to fit their country.
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu May 19, 2022 12:46 am

For gameplay or roleplay purposes?

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Postby Grand Angland » Fri May 20, 2022 4:12 am

Unibot III wrote:Hmm, so what I did last year to do this for a Unibot roleplay was create a Google Spreadsheet that would generate results like this.

Once I established what Unibot’s parties were and what they stood for, I went district by district and quantified how popular each party was in each district versus the overall national popular vote (e.g., 500%, -30%) based on established factors about each district (e.g., their economics, industries.)

A randomized national vote share would then get squeezed through a set of those district-by-district numbers and I would reallocate the surplus of each vote proportionally so the vote shares add up to 100% in each riding. That gave me a quasi-realistic FPTP electoral returns.

Essentially it’s a proportional swing projection, like something you’d use in a RL election, but with fictitious regional variance and random national numbers.

If you’re interested I can make a copy of my simulator sheet public for download, so others can just download and edit the sheet to fit their country.


That sounds like a good solid model - I would appreciate it if you would consider sharing such a sheet.

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Postby Grand Angland » Fri May 20, 2022 4:12 am

Sedgistan wrote:For gameplay or roleplay purposes?


Primarily roleplay I would say - looking to develop a bit more of my NSWiki and to do a bit more forum work on here.

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Postby Platypi United » Fri May 20, 2022 4:45 am

cool
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri May 20, 2022 8:17 am

Grand Angland wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:For gameplay or roleplay purposes?


Primarily roleplay I would say - looking to develop a bit more of my NSWiki and to do a bit more forum work on here.

Then why did you post this in the Gameplay forum, which clearly is not a roleplay forum? Thread moved.

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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Fri May 20, 2022 9:56 am

I can help.
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Postby Meadowfields » Fri May 20, 2022 9:58 am

That would be extremely hard to do, I know tons of calculators for proportional representation, but alas, I don't know one for first-past-the-post.
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Postby Grand Angland » Fri May 20, 2022 6:02 pm

Sedgistan wrote:Then why did you post this in the Gameplay forum, which clearly is not a roleplay forum? Thread moved.


Well because firstly I do intend to use it for a bit of both and secondly, I see roleplay as part of gameplay surely? To involve yourself in roleplay is part of playing the game of Nationstates?

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It'd be great if you could please.

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Postby Grand Angland » Sat May 21, 2022 8:18 am

Meadowfields wrote:That would be extremely hard to do, I know tons of calculators for proportional representation, but alas, I don't know one for first-past-the-post.


Yeah it seems so, hence why I'm excited to see the proposals offered :) Something I've wanted to do for a while, I wonder if NS will ever add a public approval/opinion poll feature to the game.

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Postby Unibot III » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:18 am

Grand Angland wrote:
Unibot III wrote:Hmm, so what I did last year to do this for a Unibot roleplay was create a Google Spreadsheet that would generate results like this.

Once I established what Unibot’s parties were and what they stood for, I went district by district and quantified how popular each party was in each district versus the overall national popular vote (e.g., 500%, -30%) based on established factors about each district (e.g., their economics, industries.)

A randomized national vote share would then get squeezed through a set of those district-by-district numbers and I would reallocate the surplus of each vote proportionally so the vote shares add up to 100% in each riding. That gave me a quasi-realistic FPTP electoral returns.

Essentially it’s a proportional swing projection, like something you’d use in a RL election, but with fictitious regional variance and random national numbers.

If you’re interested I can make a copy of my simulator sheet public for download, so others can just download and edit the sheet to fit their country.


That sounds like a good solid model - I would appreciate it if you would consider sharing such a sheet.


Oops, sorry for leaving you hanging. I will get around to sharing this. I have to duplicate the spreadsheet and make some notes so the spreadsheet is comprehensible.
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Unibotian Factbook // Collected works // The Gameplay Alignment Test //
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Postby Grand Angland » Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:09 am

Unibot III wrote:
Grand Angland wrote:
That sounds like a good solid model - I would appreciate it if you would consider sharing such a sheet.


Oops, sorry for leaving you hanging. I will get around to sharing this. I have to duplicate the spreadsheet and make some notes so the spreadsheet is comprehensible.


No worries at all - I can only thank you again, I do really appreciate it :)

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Postby The Furi Isles » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:14 pm

I’ve made various election simulators using spreadsheets; I’d be happy to share info and insights with you.

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Postby Teletubieland » Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:00 am

Easiest option would be to pick a country that uses FPTP and has a similar number of parties, take the results for a given election then just decide that one real life party equals one of your parties.
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Postby The Cannaland Islands » Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:31 pm

The Furi Isles wrote:I’ve made various election simulators using spreadsheets; I’d be happy to share info and insights with you.

Please do
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