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Postby Port Caverton » Mon May 16, 2022 5:55 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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Championing for people to be jailed or arbitrarily punished before a crime has even been committed is bad IM, even from you.

It’s pretty on brand for him though. He did want to ban dogs, sentence people to death for talking in movies, and put interlocks in all vehicles because people might speed.

What the fuck?
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon May 16, 2022 5:56 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Indomitable Friendship wrote:There's no one like me, sorry. Just because I'm ethnocentric doesn't mean I'm the same as all these other guys. You're just another generic and closed minded individual judging people from your ivory tower.


This honestly reads like a stereotypical teenager going through a phase and complaining about how their parents just don't get them.

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I don’t even know to respond to this utter lunacy. You don’t know what authoritarianism is.

The world is far from shallow. You need to get out more and travel to other countries to get some perspective.

Go get a cabin in the woods somewhere by a stream.


Not even other countries, literally just getting out more. The world is only as bland as you make it.


Sadly for most, I imagine their world is about a bland as fruit stripe gum after ten seconds of chewing.

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Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Championing for people to be jailed or arbitrarily punished before a crime has even been committed is bad IM, even from you.

It’s pretty on brand for him though. He did want to ban dogs, sentence people to death for talking in movies, and put interlocks in all vehicles because people might speed.


Good point.
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Postby Indomitable Friendship » Mon May 16, 2022 5:56 pm

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No, you do not. This is genuinely some Lysenkoist style shit in how detached it is from reality. You'd actually be laughed out of a class on the topic.



No it's not new I've been talking to racists online for 10 years, the only thing different about your posts is that it's even more pseudo-scientific than most, and that's saying something.

I don't understand how he's racist? and do you think I'm racist? This is one of the only threads I've seen people stick up for white people so I would like to thank Indomitable Friendship.

No problem and don't let these people or anyone tear you down. They're just opportunistic bullies that pick on the 1 group that's socially acceptable to degrade and dehumanize so they can feel better about themselves.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon May 16, 2022 5:58 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It’s pretty on brand for him though. He did want to ban dogs, sentence people to death for talking in movies, and put interlocks in all vehicles because people might speed.

What the fuck?


Literally 1984.
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Postby Heloin » Mon May 16, 2022 5:59 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:That American police forces are the largest paramilitary organisations on the planet and outclass most national militaries is clearly lost on you.


It seems they need even more if it’s true that they aren’t currently winning the wars on guns and drugs.

Literally the mindset of a the Italian army in WW1, murdering another hundred thousand men on the same stretch of land because you refuse to deal with the reality that your ideas have failed totally.

If some rando can get a gun and pull a Buffalo massacre, then clearly the state isn’t strong enough/hasn’t been given enough power.

Your solution is one step away from mass murder.

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Postby Port Caverton » Mon May 16, 2022 6:02 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:What the fuck?


Literally 1984.

Why would anyone want to live in such a society?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 16, 2022 6:03 pm

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Gujsbo wrote:I don't understand how he's racist? and do you think I'm racist? This is one of the only threads I've seen people stick up for white people so I would like to thank Indomitable Friendship.

No problem and don't let these people or anyone tear you down. They're just opportunistic bullies that pick on the 1 group that's socially acceptable to degrade and dehumanize so they can feel better about themselves.


Oh drop the victim complex, we roast the hell out of tons of groups around here nowadays, y'all are just one of them.
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Postby Heloin » Mon May 16, 2022 6:06 pm

Indomitable Friendship wrote:
Gujsbo wrote:I don't understand how he's racist? and do you think I'm racist? This is one of the only threads I've seen people stick up for white people so I would like to thank Indomitable Friendship.

No problem and don't let these people or anyone tear you down. They're just opportunistic bullies that pick on the 1 group that's socially acceptable to degrade and dehumanize so they can feel better about themselves.

You choose to believe in a violent bigoted ideology. You decided for yourself to see other ethnic groups and cultures as less important then you. Just because you so desperately want to be the victim doesn’t change the point that you both made the active decision to be a bigot.
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Postby Free Fernamand » Mon May 16, 2022 6:07 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
It seems they need even more if it’s true that they aren’t currently winning the wars on guns and drugs.

If some rando can get a gun and pull a Buffalo massacre, then clearly the state is nit going enough/hasn’t been given enough power.


Championing for people to be jailed or arbitrarily punished before a crime has even been committed is bad IM, even from you.


That's right. We should follow the law to judge the crime, not by ourselves. If people are in jail because someone thinks they show a trend of crime or they may be a criminal after months or years, many people will be treated unjustly. In fact, it is good to give them comfort and help to let them on the right way, but obviously not jail.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 16, 2022 6:10 pm

Indomitable Friendship wrote:
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What the heck is horizontal leadership?

Crime will always happen and always has happened since the dawn of civilization. Your ideas would lead to free for all.

How is having law supremacism?

What freedom don’t you have? The world is far from boring, bland predictable. I think you need to get out more and travel to some other countries.

I'll answer this later. I'm tired of being mocked for being different, right now.


No one is mocking you for being different. Your being called out for bigoted ideology and espousing delusional fantasies that's not even remotely close to reality or realistic.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon May 16, 2022 6:26 pm

Heloin wrote:
Indomitable Friendship wrote:No problem and don't let these people or anyone tear you down. They're just opportunistic bullies that pick on the 1 group that's socially acceptable to degrade and dehumanize so they can feel better about themselves.

You choose to believe in a violent bigoted ideology. You decided for yourself to see other ethnic groups and cultures as less important then you. Just because you so desperately want to be the victim doesn’t change the point that you both made the active decision to be a bigot.


Citizens casually having access to firepower that can take down multiple opponents from long range shouldn’t be a thing. It’s not a thing in many parts of the world. This is not okay to me.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 16, 2022 6:27 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:You choose to believe in a violent bigoted ideology. You decided for yourself to see other ethnic groups and cultures as less important then you. Just because you so desperately want to be the victim doesn’t change the point that you both made the active decision to be a bigot.


Citizens casually having access to firepower that can take down multiple opponents from long range shouldn’t be a thing. It’s not a thing in many parts of the world. This is not okay to me.


Wow we agree on something. Im genuinely shocked.

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Postby Heloin » Mon May 16, 2022 6:31 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:You choose to believe in a violent bigoted ideology. You decided for yourself to see other ethnic groups and cultures as less important then you. Just because you so desperately want to be the victim doesn’t change the point that you both made the active decision to be a bigot.


Citizens casually having access to firepower that can take down multiple opponents from long range shouldn’t be a thing. It’s not a thing in many parts of the world. This is not okay to me.

Why you quoted my post calling out the bigot with a victim complex instead of my post pointing out your only idea is more violence so long as it’s done by the state is a mystery to me.

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Postby Adamede » Mon May 16, 2022 6:36 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:That American police forces are the largest paramilitary organisations on the planet and outclass most national militaries is clearly lost on you.


It seems they need even more if it’s true that they aren’t currently winning the wars on guns and drugs.

If some rando can get a gun and pull a Buffalo massacre, then clearly the state isn’t strong enough/hasn’t been given enough power.

Yah no.

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Postby Adamede » Mon May 16, 2022 6:36 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Literally 1984.

Why would anyone want to live in such a society?

Because its IM.

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Postby Adamede » Mon May 16, 2022 6:37 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:You choose to believe in a violent bigoted ideology. You decided for yourself to see other ethnic groups and cultures as less important then you. Just because you so desperately want to be the victim doesn’t change the point that you both made the active decision to be a bigot.


Citizens casually having access to firepower that can take down multiple opponents from long range shouldn’t be a thing. It’s not a thing in many parts of the world. This is not okay to me.

Typing again to say that civilian ownership of semi automatic firearms is a thing in many other 1st world nations.

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Postby Red Lake Circle » Mon May 16, 2022 6:38 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:That American police forces are the largest paramilitary organisations on the planet and outclass most national militaries is clearly lost on you.


It seems they need even more if it’s true that they aren’t currently winning the wars on guns and drugs.

If some rando can get a gun and pull a Buffalo massacre, then clearly the state isn’t strong enough/hasn’t been given enough power.

More police in a given place is proven not to actually do anything to this specific kind of crime... like, it reduces public drug use and trespassing, but it will not do anything for mass killings.
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Postby Port Caverton » Mon May 16, 2022 6:38 pm

Adamede wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Why would anyone want to live in such a society?

Because its IM.

But why does he want that?
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Postby Adamede » Mon May 16, 2022 6:40 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Adamede wrote:Because its IM.

But why does he want that?

I don't know. I do know that most of this shit revolves around things that inconvenience him or make his life somewhat harder.


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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon May 16, 2022 6:40 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:You choose to believe in a violent bigoted ideology. You decided for yourself to see other ethnic groups and cultures as less important then you. Just because you so desperately want to be the victim doesn’t change the point that you both made the active decision to be a bigot.


Citizens casually having access to firepower that can take down multiple opponents from long range shouldn’t be a thing. It’s not a thing in many parts of the world. This is not okay to me.


And yet it is, and it's a good thing.

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Postby Prima Scriptura » Mon May 16, 2022 6:47 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Indomitable Friendship wrote:No problem and don't let these people or anyone tear you down. They're just opportunistic bullies that pick on the 1 group that's socially acceptable to degrade and dehumanize so they can feel better about themselves.


Oh drop the victim complex, we roast the hell out of tons of groups around here nowadays, y'all are just one of them.



I mean I’m roasted on here from time to time, and I’m definitely not a ethno-nationalist
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Postby Free Fernamand » Mon May 16, 2022 6:57 pm

If we back to the idea of "country" we will find that all of the current countries are "nation-states" which means there is a major nationality in each country. No matter how it welcomes immigrants or develops variability of minors, it is still a country base on nationalism to unite its major nationality. Also, the country has a border and all people within the border have a citizenship which separates them from other countries' citizens and creates patriotism to unite all citizens. Nationalism combined with patriotism creates the extreme "one nation(race) supremacy" idea, which is the condition for the white supremacy case. But their idea is definitely "wrong". Why?(I will answer it after a few minutes)
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Postby Heloin » Mon May 16, 2022 6:59 pm

Gujsbo wrote:
Heloin wrote:Why you quoted my post calling out the bigot with a victim complex instead of my post pointing out your only idea is more violence so long as it’s done by the state is a mystery to me.

But why hate white people? We have done so much good in this world (And I will admit some bad)? We caused the enlightenment, Industrial revolution, and Gains in science that have never been seen before, You like to call people bigots and say people have a victim complex but I think the whole notion gay people and Black people face mass discrimination is a victim complex. You people only want to destroy not only the achievements of Europeans but many other racial groups as well, Because apparently preserving culture and way of life is racist. I suggest you stop bashing Europeans on the computer they helped invent so you can spread your BS. Look is a god damn mirror I don't only honor European culture but I think it's important for every single race on the planet to persevere their own tradition for there future generations. And yes before you call me out other racial groups have contributed incredibly helpful things to society as a whole.

I’ve been shot at as a child for the colour of my skin. I can’t openly live my life in my home country because of my sexuality and now my adopted country wants to do the same here. There is no positive general “European culture”. There is the beauty of the different peoples and nations of Europe but the invented culture you want embraced is one of genocide and colonialism. Lie to yourself if you really must, but the murderer in Buffalo is everything your ideology stands for.

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