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[Abandoned] Liberate Female Led Empire

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Yuts Knenxland
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[Abandoned] Liberate Female Led Empire

Postby Yuts Knenxland » Sat May 14, 2022 2:51 am

Hi everyone, first time author here writing a liberation.

I do realise that most of the liberations were targeted at occupations that were happening in that moment, and this would seem a bit unconventional.
While certainly inexperienced, I do hope you all can read through this draft and let me know if there are any improvements to be made.

The Security Council,

Understanding that Female Led Empire has been occupied and refounded by the invasive forces of J O J to be kept as a trophy region,

Affirming that innocent regions should not be kept as trophies for the glorification of the hateful ideologies that J O J represents,

Horrified that the inter-regional community had failed to prevent the destruction and takeover of the region by such a distasteful organisation then,

Noting that the founder maintained by the invading forces has ceased to exist, providing an opportunity for inter-regional forces to act now,

Hoping that this liberation will allow an inter regional coalition will free Female Led Empire from its current occupiers and maintain it until a native community returns,

Hereby liberates Female Led Empire
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Postby Communist Beijing Must be China » Sat May 14, 2022 2:59 am

I think you actually might be better off condemning J O J rather than liberating a captured region of theirs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat May 14, 2022 3:37 am

A few questions before I can offer my support:

1) Are there any natives from the original iteration of the region interested in seeing this pass?

2) If not, is there anyone who has actually happened to express interest in establishing a community here?

3) The WFE said ‘feminazis’ were in the region. While I do not like J o J at all I’d rather he own a dead colony of this region that it become a new Femdom place. Are you certain that this really was an innocent region?


Edit: also, was the region actually raided, or refounded?
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Postby Fachumonn » Sat May 14, 2022 3:46 am

It was refounded, and it has been for like two years... there is no reason for this.

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Postby Wayneactia » Sat May 14, 2022 4:00 am

Support!

Communist Beijing Must be China wrote:I think you actually might be better off condemning J O J rather than liberating a captured region of theirs.

No. We're not going to be doing that, thanks....
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Postby Zaeylia » Sat May 14, 2022 4:06 am

Honeydewistania wrote:A few questions before I can offer my support:
3) The WFE said ‘feminazis’ were in the region. While I do not like J o J at all I’d rather he own a dead colony of this region that it become a new Femdom place. Are you certain that this really was an innocent region?


''A few questions before you can offer your support?! Logically I was expecting only a list of procedural-criticism legalese. Reading through point 1 and 2 of your questions I've realized they are in relation to internal mechanisms by which it would function. That already raised my suspicion on the ingenuity of your questions. Reading question #3 just confirmed it!
You support derogatory terminology used by this criminal? If not explicitly, you have sure implied it. Your feelings towards a playing-country (''liking them'') matters not and if being truthful - I do not care. You'd rather this self-declared junglefowl ''own'' a ''colony''? Appalling. Finally...* ''Femdom'' does not belong on a PG13 website, the correct term you are looking for would be - Matriarchal.
Either way, you have proven to be an unreliable methodologist, your first two questions are just fodder for you to get to your main point - Internalized Misogyny. However, I do thank you for offering my people substantial reasoning as to why I refuse to let them suffer under these 'international' organizations.''

-Sincerely as always, Queen-Psychotic Eternal of Zaeylia.


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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat May 14, 2022 4:13 am

Zaeylia wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:A few questions before I can offer my support:
3) The WFE said ‘feminazis’ were in the region. While I do not like J o J at all I’d rather he own a dead colony of this region that it become a new Femdom place. Are you certain that this really was an innocent region?


''A few questions before you can offer your support?! Logically I was expecting only a list of procedural-criticism legalese. Reading through point 1 and 2 of your questions I've realized they are in relation to internal mechanisms by which it would function. That already raised my suspicion on the ingenuity of your questions. Reading question #3 just confirmed it!
You support derogatory terminology used by this criminal? If not explicitly, you have sure implied it. Your feelings towards a playing-country (''liking them'') matters not and if being truthful - I do not care. You'd rather this self-declared junglefowl ''own'' a ''colony''? Appalling. Finally...* ''Femdom'' does not belong on a PG13 website, the correct term you are looking for would be - Matriarchal.
Either way, you have proven to be an unreliable methodologist, your first two questions are just fodder for you to get to your main point - Internalized Misogyny. However, I do thank you for offering my people substantial reasoning as to why I refuse to let them suffer under these 'international' organizations.''

-Sincerely as always, Queen-Psychotic Eternal of Zaeylia.


*That ''Femdom'' comment almost made me break character from laughter, GJ.


What the hell are you talking about? I’m referring to regions like Femdom State and Femdom Empire - former regions that harboured a load of Nazis. I do question what kind of mental gymnastics you took to turn my genuine questions into me being a misogynist.


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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat May 14, 2022 4:15 am

Fachumonn wrote:It was refounded, and it has been for like two years... there is no reason for this.

Yep, it’s a dead region no need for a a Liberation.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat May 14, 2022 5:13 am

The native community of FLE was ideologically similar to that of Femdom Empire (except that Lanav wanted Femdom to host "an active feminist community which lacks Nazi and fascist influences" rather than be held until its natives returned). Nice try, Lucklife, but I can't support you Liberating FLE just because it's being occupied by J o J instead.
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Sat May 14, 2022 5:27 am

what type of "hateful ideologies" does joj support. not convinced this is necessary for joj.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat May 14, 2022 6:13 am

Let's go through this then.

Yuts Knenxland wrote:
The Security Council,

Understanding that Female Led Empire has been occupied and refounded by the invasive forces of J O J to be kept as a trophy region,

Occupied and refunded nearly two years ago. Bit late to the party aren't we?

Yuts Knenxland wrote:Affirming that innocent regions should not be kept as trophies for the glorification of the hateful ideologies that J O J represents,

Was it an innocent region? What hateful ideologies does J o J espouse?

Yuts Knenxland wrote:Horrified that the inter-regional community had failed to prevent the destruction and takeover of the region by such a distasteful organisation then,

It was nearly two years ago and if it had been worthwhile saving I'm sure someone would have done it.

Yuts Knenxland wrote:Noting that the founder maintained by the invading forces has ceased to exist, providing an opportunity for inter-regional forces to act now,

Opportunistic badge hunt is more like it.

Yuts Knenxland wrote:Hoping that this liberation will allow an inter regional coalition will free Female Led Empire from its current occupiers and maintain it until a native community returns,

After the length of time elapsed any natives have either CTE'd or have found a nice home elsewhere.

Yuts Knenxland wrote:Hereby liberates Female Led Empire

Let's not and just say we did.

In essence this is a complete waste of time. Nobody is going to be interested in Liberating what is essentially a dead region.
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Postby Comfed » Sat May 14, 2022 6:16 am

No support from me - the region seems to already be dead.
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Postby Yuts Knenxland » Sat May 14, 2022 6:35 am

Okay wow that's a lot of comments in a short period of time.

To start off, I must say I'm not 100% going to be hellbent on it passing, but I'm interested to see the thought processes and how to properly get something through the SC. No better way to attempt it than jumping in with some hands on trials. If enough people do say that "this is dead, not needed", I'm not opposed in marking it abandoned.

Mayybe, if I write condemn someone, then I'll be sure to try hard and get that passed, but small steps first.

Already seeing quite a bit of useful things I'm learning from, appreciate all of your comments.


Communist Beijing Must be China wrote:I think you actually might be better off condemning J O J rather than liberating a captured region of theirs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though.


I think JOJ doesn't deserve to be given recognition in any form of a C/C. They don't do recruitment either, so there's no newbies to scare away with a condemn either. Yeh


Honeydewistania wrote:
Zaeylia wrote:
''A few questions before you can offer your support?! Logically I was expecting only a list of procedural-criticism legalese. Reading through point 1 and 2 of your questions I've realized they are in relation to internal mechanisms by which it would function. That already raised my suspicion on the ingenuity of your questions. Reading question #3 just confirmed it!
You support derogatory terminology used by this criminal? If not explicitly, you have sure implied it. Your feelings towards a playing-country (''liking them'') matters not and if being truthful - I do not care. You'd rather this self-declared junglefowl ''own'' a ''colony''? Appalling. Finally...* ''Femdom'' does not belong on a PG13 website, the correct term you are looking for would be - Matriarchal.
Either way, you have proven to be an unreliable methodologist, your first two questions are just fodder for you to get to your main point - Internalized Misogyny. However, I do thank you for offering my people substantial reasoning as to why I refuse to let them suffer under these 'international' organizations.''

-Sincerely as always, Queen-Psychotic Eternal of Zaeylia.


*That ''Femdom'' comment almost made me break character from laughter, GJ.


What the hell are you talking about? I’m referring to regions like Femdom State and Femdom Empire - former regions that harboured a load of Nazis. I do question what kind of mental gymnastics you took to turn my genuine questions into me being a misogynist.


I think I can respond to this chunk at once.

I used the WFE finder tool that TGW has to pull up the WFE before it was captured by JOJ.
Womania rules here. Expect violence and humiliation towards males.


Now, to Questions 1/2, No.
To 3: While it boasted a population of 2 at its peak, it seems like something the founder created for personal use which never made it big. Bit of extreme language there on the WFE certainly aint helping its case, but I don't think that justifies JOJ calling them feminazis. Then again all of JOJ WFEs are just like that so-

I was thinking if a liberation happened, it would be better falling under the hands of any other org, like antifa or defenders, than remaining in the hands of JOJ.

Tinhampton wrote:The native community of FLE was ideologically similar to that of Femdom Empire (except that Lanav wanted Femdom to host "an active feminist community which lacks Nazi and fascist influences" rather than be held until its natives returned). Nice try, Lucklife, but I can't support you Liberating FLE just because it's being occupied by J o J instead.


Oh no, the master of approvals has given me disapproval
Scraps proposal and Dies
Writing liberations just doesn't flow in the blood, more used to burning things down :P

Free Algerstonia wrote:what type of "hateful ideologies" does joj support. not convinced this is necessary for joj.


There's a ton of discussion on JOJ elsewhere to dig up, but to keep it simple, isn't it OOC fascist?
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat May 14, 2022 7:04 am

So we want to liberate a dead region formerly owned by 2 people who wishes to inflict violence upon males? I’d say if we ever decide to liberate long dead regions, we should start with some TBH colonies ;)


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Postby Tinhampton » Sat May 14, 2022 7:21 am

  1. Yuts Knenxland wrote:To start off, I must say I'm not 100% going to be hellbent on it passing, but I'm interested to see the thought processes and how to properly get something through the SC. No better way to attempt it than jumping in with some hands on trials. If enough people do say that "this is dead, not needed", I'm not opposed in marking it abandoned.

    Mayybe, if I write condemn someone, then I'll be sure to try hard and get that passed, but small steps first.
  2. Liberate FLE wrote:Hoping that this liberation will allow an inter regional coalition will free Female Led Empire from its current occupiers and maintain it until a native community returns
  3. Honeydewistania wrote:1) Are there any natives from the original iteration of the region interested in seeing this pass?

    2) If not, is there anyone who has actually happened to express interest in establishing a community here?

    3) The WFE said ‘feminazis’ were in the region. While I do not like J o J at all I’d rather he own a dead colony of this region that it become a new Femdom place. Are you certain that this really was an innocent region?
  4. YK wrote:...to Questions 1/2, No.
    To 3: While it boasted a population of 2 at its peak, it seems like something the founder created for personal use which never made it big. Bit of extreme language there on the WFE certainly aint helping its case, but I don't think that justifies JOJ calling them feminazis. Then again all of JOJ WFEs are just like that so-

    I was thinking if a liberation happened, it would be better falling under the hands of any other org, like antifa or defenders, than remaining in the hands of JOJ.
  5. YK again wrote:
    Tinhampton wrote:The native community of FLE was ideologically similar to that of Femdom Empire (except that Lanav wanted Femdom to host "an active feminist community which lacks Nazi and fascist influences" rather than be held until its natives returned). Nice try, Lucklife, but I can't support you Liberating FLE just because it's being occupied by J o J instead.


    Oh no, the master of approvals has given me disapproval
    Scraps proposal and Dies
    Writing liberations just doesn't flow in the blood, more used to burning things down :P
You seem to be surprisingly insistent that the best way to learn how to pass an SC resolution is to... try and ram through an anti-J o J liberation (a style of proposal which you yourself admit is challenging to write) in the hope that a native community that you also admit does not exist, has never existed, and shows no sign of wishing to return to their region - will somehow return to their region!

This seems to be based on the premise that Femdom's brand of extremism is sufficiently preferable than J o J's brand of extremism that it ought to be in control of FLE, and furthermore ought to be restored by way of a fully-blown, SC-sponsored fashbashtastic extravaganza. Yet the most likely outcomes are either Southern Mount Celestia returning and reasserting J o J control or the region being refounded by forces who wish to turn FLE into an anti-fascist memorial. Still no support.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat May 14, 2022 8:27 am

No support for this.
I don't stand with Ukraine. I don't stand with Russia. I don't stand with the US, NATO, or EU. I stand with the innocent civilians being caught in the crossfire while the politicians, the media, and weapons manufacturers continue to stoke division and conflict in their geopolitical chess games and treat the people of Ukraine as mere pawns. Zelensky is a corrupt, opportunist oligarchic politician who is not fit to lead Ukraine through anything and wants to inflate his own ego and offshore accounts.

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Postby Anne of Cleves in TNP » Sat May 14, 2022 11:31 am

Yuts Knenxland wrote:Hi everyone, first time author here writing a liberation.

I do realise that most of the liberations were targeted at occupations that were happening in that moment, and this would seem a bit unconventional.
While certainly inexperienced, I do hope you all can read through this draft and let me know if there are any improvements to be made.

The Security Council,

Understanding that Female Led Empire has been occupied and refounded by the invasive forces of J O J to be kept as a trophy region,

Affirming that innocent regions should not be kept as trophies for the glorification of the hateful ideologies that J O J represents,

Horrified that the inter-regional community had failed to prevent the destruction and takeover of the region by such a distasteful organisation then,

Noting that the founder maintained by the invading forces has ceased to exist, providing an opportunity for inter-regional forces to act now,

Hoping that this liberation will allow an inter regional coalition will free Female Led Empire from its current occupiers and maintain it until a native community returns,

Hereby liberates Female Led Empire


“Ambassador, it seems that this proposal is lacking many clauses. Second, it seems that the only reasoning for the liberation is the belief that ‘innocent regions should not be kept as trophies for the glorification of the hateful ideologies’. Since this is a highly subjective statement, the entire proposal will not gain full support from the multiverse since not everyone will agree with your main point. Lastly, I see no reason to have the last two clauses in your proposal. They seem useless besides from the minor purpose of suggesting action. For all these reasons, the Clevesian people believe that this proposal should be shut down.”
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