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The Aquaria
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[ABANDONED]Law of Anti-Cannibalism

Postby The Aquaria » Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:22 am

To all WA Nations and Delegates,

Knowing some nations have allowed Cannibalism in their territory, which allow any eating or trading of human flesh.

Shocked by how anti-human it is actually, which encourages mass amount of murder, human trafficking, and even genocide, for some people to just have their bloody and cruel meal.

Other than that, there is also scientific providence that cannibalism causes Prion outbreak over the world, causing serious health incident.

Here, A Law of Anti-Cannibalism should be legislated. The following contents are:
1. Admitting that every human have their right to decide how their corpse will be dealt with afterlife.

2. Avoid every movements of attempting to murder, or mass genocides, which are in purpose to deal with the corpse for eating or trading purpose.

3. All nation should not encourage their citizens to have their human comrades as their own meal, further cancelling the policy of allowing Cannibalism, if there is one.

4. Trades of human flesh or parts should be suppressed.

Ask again for the legistation of the Law of Anti-Cannibalism.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:08 am

"I don't see why cannibalism should be banned if it is consensual and the product meets health and safety regulations for similar products, ambassador. Opposed."

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Postby Untecna » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:29 am

Comments (OOC unless stated otherwise):

The Aquaria wrote:To all WA Nations and Delegates, Shorten this to "The World Assembly".

No need for bold Knowing some nations have allowed Cannibalism in their territory, which allow any eating or trading of human flesh. Humans are not the only sapient creatures, so don't say "human", say "sapient" or "sapient life".

Shocked by how anti-human See above on sapient creatures. it is actually, which encourages mass amount of murder, human See above on sapient creatures. trafficking, and even genocide, for some people to just have their bloody and cruel meal.

Other than that "Noting", there is also scientific providence that cannibalism causes Prion outbreak over the world There are more universes and worlds in the IC., causing serious health incident.

Here, A Law of Anti-Cannibalism should be legislated. The following contents are: "Hereby:"
1. Admitting that every human See above on sapient creatures. have their right to decide how their corpse will be dealt with afterlife. This clause is written like it should be in the preamble.

2. Avoid every movements of attempting to murder, or mass genocides, which are in purpose to deal with the corpse for eating or trading purpose. This clause is likely duplication of previous legislation, for murder and mass genocide bans. If not, I'll be corrected.

3. All nation should not encourage their citizens to have their human See above on sapient creatures. comrades as their own meal, further cancelling the policy This appears to be trying to propagate that a gameside policy exists. It does not, and if it did it would be metagaming... but it doesn't exist. Change this clause. of allowing Cannibalism, if there is one.

4. Trades of human flesh or parts should be suppressed. As per Separatist People's IC comment.

Ask again for the legistation "legislation" of the Law of Anti-Cannibalism. This area is unnecessary, because this isn't a repeal or SC resolution.


Overall, opposed. This proposal is poorly written.
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Postby Tsaivao » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:09 pm

The Aquaria wrote:To all WA Nations and Delegates,

Knowing some nations have allowed Cannibalism in their territory, which allow any eating or trading of human flesh.

"I know that some among you do not like when this card is played," Delegate Manhu said, rubbing his beak and unfurling his wings. "But humans aren't the only ones here, after all. Cannibalism affects bird-people too!"

Shocked by how anti-human it is actually, which encourages mass amount of murder, human trafficking, and even genocide, for some people to just have their bloody and cruel meal.

"As pointed out by the ambassador of the Separatist Peoples, these are products of improper practice in the trade; that of which can be regulated. The World Assembly already bans genocide (and, consequently, heavily enforces severe sanctions against nations which do so), so I would like to know where your sources are that World Assembly nations are legally acting under the law and making a concerted effort to wipe out ethnic or ideological groups for consumption of their meat."

Other than that, there is also scientific providence that cannibalism causes Prion outbreak over the world, causing serious health incident.

"There exists treatments of which one can sterilize materials of prion diseases, mostly using strog detergents and chemicals. In theory it would be possible to sterilize sapient meat of such diseases. There are dangerous diseases present in many different animals consumed for food, yet we consider the dealing with these diseases to be a problem of regulation and preparation rather than the meal itself. After all, by this logic, chicken should be banned becuase it causes salmonella outbreaks, or shellfish should be banned because they can absorb Hepatitis-A from the water. We should be enforcing better sanitation practices, not banning the product outright by this logic."

Here, A Law of Anti-Cannibalism should be legislated. The following contents are:
1. Admitting that every human have their right to decide how their corpse will be dealt with afterlife.

"Even if disposing of one's corpse via selling their body into a cannibal meat market is what they genuinely wish? Seems to be a bit contradictory to the point of this legislation."

2. Avoid every movements of attempting to murder, or mass genocides, which are in purpose to deal with the corpse for eating or trading purpose.

OOC: This would be illegal for duplicating this resolution on genocide.

3. All nation should not encourage their citizens to have their human comrades as their own meal, further cancelling the policy of allowing Cannibalism, if there is one.

This could be construed, as previously pointed out, as an instance of metagaming/game mechanics for referring to the "policy of ... Cannibalism" in a gameside sense and suggesting that this resolution would be able to cancel that.

4. Trades of human flesh or parts should be suppressed.

"What mechanisms would you have in place to actually suppress the trade of sapient meat? What about organ transplants, donors, or funeral transportation? Under this current wording, anything from a heart transplant to possibly even transportation of people in general would be made illegal. And even without considering those edge cases, how would you handle testube-grown sapient meat, which is ethically harvested from a lab rather than an actual sapient individual?"

"Overall, Tsaivao will not support such legislation. All of the arguments made can be solved with stricter regulation in the sapient meat industry to better source, acquire, sanitize, and prepare sapient meat for consumption. This proposal relies on a mixture of its flawed grammar and moralistic shock value to sway-- and I am afraid it fails to do so for us."
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Postby Groot » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:48 pm

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Postby Xanthorrhoea » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:15 pm

Tsaivao wrote:“There exists treatments of which one can sterilize materials of prion diseases, mostly using strog detergents and chemicals. In theory it would be possible to sterilize sapient meat of such diseases. There are dangerous diseases present in many different animals consumed for food, yet we consider the dealing with these diseases to be a problem of regulation and preparation rather than the meal itself. After all, by this logic, chicken should be banned becuase it causes salmonella outbreaks, or shellfish should be banned because they can absorb Hepatitis-A from the water. We should be enforcing better sanitation practices, not banning the product outright by this logic."

Using detergents to sterilise meat of prions would be rather like injecting bleach to cure coronavirus. Technically it would work if you did it correctly, but doing so would completely destroy the thing you’re trying to preserve. I for one don’t want to eat human meat that has been mostly goopified by industrial grade detergents.

The reality is that prions are inherently dangerous and extremely resistant to sterilisation and persist for incredibly long times. They are a completely different category of disease to salmonella and the like. They are incurable, and inevitably fatal. Not so for salmonella and hepatitis A. Because of their lethality, difficulty to detect and their resistance to sterilisation, they should absolutely be treated differently to other diseases.

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Postby Thousand Branches » Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:13 am

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Postby Tsaivao » Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:09 am

Xanthorrhoea wrote:
Tsaivao wrote:“There exists treatments of which one can sterilize materials of prion diseases, mostly using strog detergents and chemicals. In theory it would be possible to sterilize sapient meat of such diseases. There are dangerous diseases present in many different animals consumed for food, yet we consider the dealing with these diseases to be a problem of regulation and preparation rather than the meal itself. After all, by this logic, chicken should be banned becuase it causes salmonella outbreaks, or shellfish should be banned because they can absorb Hepatitis-A from the water. We should be enforcing better sanitation practices, not banning the product outright by this logic."

Using detergents to sterilise meat of prions would be rather like injecting bleach to cure coronavirus. Technically it would work if you did it correctly, but doing so would completely destroy the thing you’re trying to preserve. I for one don’t want to eat human meat that has been mostly goopified by industrial grade detergents.

The reality is that prions are inherently dangerous and extremely resistant to sterilisation and persist for incredibly long times. They are a completely different category of disease to salmonella and the like. They are incurable, and inevitably fatal. Not so for salmonella and hepatitis A. Because of their lethality, difficulty to detect and their resistance to sterilisation, they should absolutely be treated differently to other diseases.

Thanks for pointing that out, I probably should have looked into it more. I'll say though that I don't believe this completely necessitates an outright ban of the food product, and it would be conceivable still to use lab-grown tissue or perhaps only source non-contaminated meat. I'm glad that now I have a reason to be even more afraid of foodborne illness though, haha...
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Postby Isvi Lah » Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:20 am

The Aquaria wrote:To all WA Nations and Delegates,

Knowing some nations have allowed Cannibalism in their territory, which allow any eating or trading of human flesh.

Shocked by how anti-human it is actually, which encourages mass amount of murder, human trafficking, and even genocide, for some people to just have their bloody and cruel meal.

Other than that, there is also scientific providence that cannibalism causes Prion outbreak over the world, causing serious health incident.

Here, A Law of Anti-Cannibalism should be legislated. The following contents are:
1. Admitting that every human have their right to decide how their corpse will be dealt with afterlife.

2. Avoid every movements of attempting to murder, or mass genocides, which are in purpose to deal with the corpse for eating or trading purpose.

3. All nation should not encourage their citizens to have their human comrades as their own meal, further cancelling the policy of allowing Cannibalism, if there is one.

4. Trades of human flesh or parts should be suppressed.

Ask again for the legistation of the Law of Anti-Cannibalism.


The Isvi Lah Mercantile Union, acknowledging the noble goal of the proposal, forwards two complaints.

One, the proposal itself is poorly written. Understandable human-centrism and myriad loopholes make for an ineffective law. If one wishes to make an effective law, try using "sapient" in place of human and placing more stringent restrictions upon cannibalistic legislation.

Two, as a primarily desert nation, poor planning plagues tabalhin across the astrally-assaulted dunes of Isvi Lah. Enacting an anti-cannibalism law means that some of ours may need to become international fugitives in the name of their survival. Isvi Lah, being a traveller's nation, cannot reasonably support a measure that would make survival in the white meteor sands harder.
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Postby The Aquaria » Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:38 pm

I appreciate it when people are willing to give me advice on improving my proposal.
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:14 am

The Aquaria wrote:I appreciate it when people are willing to give me advice on improving my proposal.

So why have you not updated your draft to reflect it?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:27 pm

Proposal itself is poor and doesn't have much. Not sure if it's even necessary to have it on the books.
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