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Therimenjas
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Founded: Apr 27, 2019
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

This nation was destroyed while in the boneyard!

Postby Therimenjas » Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:08 am

What happened to my stats? What happened to my dispatches? Why do I have fewer dispatches than I used to? Why do I have declines of civil rights from doing pro-civil-rights things? What is wrong with this nation? How do I get it back to what it was? Does anyone have any record of what happened to Therimenjas? This was - emphasis WAS - my most diehard left-wing nation of all! I want it back to that status! And like ALL of my nations, it tried to restrain the black market. None of this massive rising nonsense! None of this declining civil rights while inactive. What happened?
As of this signature's authoring (5/18/2019), all nations presently in Tusdeta are controlled by one player. The full alt list can be found here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1207785

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Therimenjas
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Founded: Apr 27, 2019
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Therimenjas » Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:36 am

You can see the tampered stat lines. The civil rights anomaly is most spectacular. Meanwhile, from stuff I actually did today:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8z9ZMQLagdc2dFR4A
https://photos.app.goo.gl/sv1oXLvm4QCjWLsX6

Update: Links should be visible to all now, but this was affected by the civil rights recalculation.
Last edited by Therimenjas on Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
As of this signature's authoring (5/18/2019), all nations presently in Tusdeta are controlled by one player. The full alt list can be found here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1207785

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Therimenjas
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Founded: Apr 27, 2019
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Therimenjas » Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:40 am

The rudeness graph has gone up again since I've complained, too. See here from one of the issues I did today:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PNdMvqP38Qn8F4267

Compare this to the current Rudeness score:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/DSEi2724GStjUdrE9

Why are the stats on this nation changing so very rapidly and bizarrely?

Update: Images should now work! This shows off something that happened late in the process! Please, I beg: do not tell me nothing changed, but look at this and tell me WHY it changed!
Last edited by Therimenjas on Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
As of this signature's authoring (5/18/2019), all nations presently in Tusdeta are controlled by one player. The full alt list can be found here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1207785

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Leutria
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Leutria » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:14 am

We cannot see those images, FYI.

I cannot say anything about the dispatches, but how civil rights is calculated was changed while you were gone: https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/ ... index.html

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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:21 am

Nothing happens to a nation in the boneyard. Dispatches do not get deleted. Issue stats do not change. The game pays it no mind. We have 250,000 active nations and over 7,250,000 dead ones.

If you bring a nation back and global stat rejiggerings have happened (like Leutria posted), you will notice a shift.

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Therimenjas
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Founded: Apr 27, 2019
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Therimenjas » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:25 am

Luna Amore wrote:Nothing happens to a nation in the boneyard. Dispatches do not get deleted. Issue stats do not change. The game pays it no mind. We have 250,000 active nations and over 7,250,000 dead ones.

If you bring a nation back and global stat rejiggerings have happened (like Leutria posted), you will notice a shift.


I greatly appreciate your response! I think you have your finger on exactly why the civil rights stat changed, and maybe other stuff as well. This nation was down for quite a while and stat recalculations have affected it dramatically!

That said, my dispatches! I think someone must have hacked this nation while it was up, in that case, because it has the shattered remnants of a storyline I wrote into it. *crying gif*

Also, the rudeness anomaly! That happened TODAY!

Leutria wrote:We cannot see those images, FYI.

I cannot say anything about the dispatches, but how civil rights is calculated was changed while you were gone: https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/ ... index.html

I'll fix the images so you can see them. I think that's possible.
As of this signature's authoring (5/18/2019), all nations presently in Tusdeta are controlled by one player. The full alt list can be found here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1207785

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Luna Amore
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Postby Luna Amore » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:29 am

Therimenjas wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:Nothing happens to a nation in the boneyard. Dispatches do not get deleted. Issue stats do not change. The game pays it no mind. We have 250,000 active nations and over 7,250,000 dead ones.

If you bring a nation back and global stat rejiggerings have happened (like Leutria posted), you will notice a shift.


I greatly appreciate your response! I think you have your finger on exactly why the civil rights stat changed, and maybe other stuff as well. This nation was down for quite a while and stat recalculations have affected it dramatically!

That said, my dispatches! I think someone must have hacked this nation while it was up, in that case, because it has the shattered remnants of a storyline I wrote into it. *crying gif*

Also, the rudeness anomaly! That happened TODAY!

Leutria wrote:We cannot see those images, FYI.

I cannot say anything about the dispatches, but how civil rights is calculated was changed while you were gone: https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/ ... index.html

I'll fix the images so you can see them. I think that's possible.

From a moderator perspective, I can say that I am the only person that has ever looked at the backend of your nation and that happened in the last few minutes.
I do not see any evidence that anyone else logged into the nation. It has been CTEd continuously since October 2019 until you revived it today.

As far as rudeness, you've answered issues today. The change is likely from one of those choices.
Last edited by Luna Amore on Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:30 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Therimenjas
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Founded: Apr 27, 2019
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Therimenjas » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:45 am

Luna Amore wrote:From a moderator perspective, I can say that I am the only person that has ever looked at the backend of your nation and that happened in the last few minutes.
I do not see any evidence that anyone else logged into the nation. It has been CTEd continuously since October 2019 until you revived it today.

As far as rudeness, you've answered issues today. The change is likely from one of those choices.


Re-reviewing the issues... You're right. The rudeness change was totally correct and comprehensible. I freaked myself out by mis-ordering the issues that I'd responded to while already freaking out about the civil rights thing, which turns out to have been quite explainable after all. BTW I approve of and appreciate the recalculation that eliminated "right to commit crimes" from the civil rights graph.

All that remains is that MASSIVE black market shift. This game still misbehaves around the black market stat. Er, I don't expect you to explain that (sadly (seriously I wish I could see the backend so badly (but I know I can't)))... So I guess I mean to say... Thank you for using moderator powers in the research of my issue. I appreciate your patience and that the issue was resolvable. Now, time to change the @@LEADER@@ field to "The Solar Riot Consortium", because I do know how and where from this nation is being run.
As of this signature's authoring (5/18/2019), all nations presently in Tusdeta are controlled by one player. The full alt list can be found here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1207785


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