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Russian/belarus troops massing on Ukraine border

Postby Archinstinct » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:15 am

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnew ... p/rcna7203

Russia and belarus are amassing more than 125,000 soldiers nea ukraine's northern border. Meanwhile, russia has staged missiles near japan. War cannot be ruled out.

I'm going to wait and see what happens but this can't really be ignored.

What are you thoughts and opinions on the situation??
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Postby Cormoe » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:19 am

Russia already knows if a war breaks out NATO will be involved, there's many pacts such as NATO, the Rio Pact, and the alliances between Oceanic and Asian countries. Russia doesn't have too many allies themselves infact, most of the world thinks of them as bullies.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:28 am

Cormoe wrote:Russia already knows if a war breaks out NATO will be involved.

Ukraine isn't part of NATO.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:29 am

Archinstinct wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna7203

Russia and belarus are amassing more than 125,000 soldiers nea ukraine's northern border. Meanwhile, russia has staged missiles near japan. War cannot be ruled out.

I'm going to wait and see what happens but this can't really be ignored.

What are you thoughts and opinions on the situation??

Probably just sabre-rattle.
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Postby Marxiaville » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:34 am

Yeah, and if it is real, Russia won't hit Japan, just make some attacks on Ukraine and then leave. You all know how these things go.

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Postby Limonovshchina » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:01 am

Immortan Khan wrote:
Cormoe wrote:Russia already knows if a war breaks out NATO will be involved.

Ukraine isn't part of NATO.

Moreover, Ukraine would have to apparently clean house before being admitted into NATO in the first place, as hilarious as that sounds coming from America.
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Postby Alkmaaria » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:05 pm

Cormoe wrote:Russia already knows if a war breaks out NATO will be involved, there's many pacts such as NATO, the Rio Pact, and the alliances between Oceanic and Asian countries. Russia doesn't have too many allies themselves infact, most of the world thinks of them as bullies.

I mean Russia has proved throughout history that it doesn't need independent allies, it needs puppet states (Belarus and to some extent Kazakhstan) and countries that will turn a blind eye (China). And it ultimately doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks to Russia, it only matters what the people who are in it's way think.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:15 pm

I support Vladimir Putin in his endeavor to liberate the Ukrainians from their corrupt government and free the Russians oppressed by Ukraine
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Postby Iwassoclose » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:23 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:I support Vladimir Putin in his endeavor to liberate the Ukrainians from their corrupt government and free the Russians oppressed by Ukraine


Ukrainian-Russians can drive to Russia, nobody is stopping them

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:24 pm

Iwassoclose wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:I support Vladimir Putin in his endeavor to liberate the Ukrainians from their corrupt government and free the Russians oppressed by Ukraine


Ukrainian-Russians can drive to Russia, nobody is stopping them

Prove it
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Postby Iwassoclose » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:30 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:
Ukrainian-Russians can drive to Russia, nobody is stopping them

Prove it


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Postby Limonovshchina » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:49 pm

Iwassoclose wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:I support Vladimir Putin in his endeavor to liberate the Ukrainians from their corrupt government and free the Russians oppressed by Ukraine


Ukrainian-Russians can drive to Russia, nobody is stopping them

Why, pray tell, should they have to leave their homes or the country they've lived in for years and whose citizens they are? Because of their language?
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Postby Iwassoclose » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:52 pm

Limonovshchina wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:
Ukrainian-Russians can drive to Russia, nobody is stopping them

Why, pray tell, should they have to leave their homes or the country they've lived in for years and whose citizens they are? Because of their language?


He is saying they are oppressed. Oppressed people generally dont want to stick around.

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Iwassoclose wrote:
Limonovshchina wrote:Why, pray tell, should they have to leave their homes or the country they've lived in for years and whose citizens they are? Because of their language?


He is saying they are oppressed. Oppressed people generally dont want to stick around.

Well, there's the question of ceasing the recognition of Russian as an official language, which seems to be one of their grievances over in Eastern Ukraine. Maybe that is what he's referring to. Also, no, they want to stick around unless there was an imminent threat to their life and health. It's their home.
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Postby Alkmaaria » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:38 pm

Limonovshchina wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:
He is saying they are oppressed. Oppressed people generally dont want to stick around.

Well, there's the question of ceasing the recognition of Russian as an official language, which seems to be one of their grievances over in Eastern Ukraine. Maybe that is what he's referring to. Also, no, they want to stick around unless there was an imminent threat to their life and health. It's their home.

Ukraine only did that to increase use of Ukrainian throughout the country, because the language was pretty much repressed during Soviet times, and the Ukrainian government is trying to bring it back.
They derecognized Russian as an official language for another reason, too. If you look at Belarus, Belorussian is spoken in some rural areas, but scarcely in Minsk and other urban areas. This is because Russia used their old tactic of Russification. Russians understand that the more Russified a country is, the easier it is to annex it/puppet it, which is what they did with Belarus. Also, Ukrainians have had a history of animosity towards Russians. Ukraine is lucky to have made it this far without being Russified, and they're continuing their efforts.
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Postby Limonovshchina » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:53 am

Alkmaaria wrote:
Limonovshchina wrote:Well, there's the question of ceasing the recognition of Russian as an official language, which seems to be one of their grievances over in Eastern Ukraine. Maybe that is what he's referring to. Also, no, they want to stick around unless there was an imminent threat to their life and health. It's their home.

Ukraine only did that to increase use of Ukrainian throughout the country, because the language was pretty much repressed during Soviet times, and the Ukrainian government is trying to bring it back.
They derecognized Russian as an official language for another reason, too. If you look at Belarus, Belorussian is spoken in some rural areas, but scarcely in Minsk and other urban areas. This is because Russia used their old tactic of Russification. Russians understand that the more Russified a country is, the easier it is to annex it/puppet it, which is what they did with Belarus. Also, Ukrainians have had a history of animosity towards Russians. Ukraine is lucky to have made it this far without being Russified, and they're continuing their efforts.

I'm sorry, I don't deal in right-wing nationalist conspiracy theories. If you had something else to say which doesn't depend on animosity towards a specific ethnic or linguistic group, we could continue this conversation.
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Postby Sky Reavers » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:57 am

My bet, full war ain't gonna start. All sides got too much to lose from potential escaltion, which may spiral outta control with more and more countries getting involved. Gains will be dubious at best, and losses might exceed expectations. But sabre rattling is to be expected alot.
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Postby Mtwara » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:03 am

You would think that by now Europe would have reduced or totally cut off it's dependence on Russian natural gas. Until we all stop it, the envelope will get pushed and pushed and pushed and we'll all eventually be dragged into a conflict.

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Postby The North Polish Union » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:12 am

Limonovshchina wrote:
Alkmaaria wrote:Ukraine only did that to increase use of Ukrainian throughout the country, because the language was pretty much repressed during Soviet times, and the Ukrainian government is trying to bring it back.
They derecognized Russian as an official language for another reason, too. If you look at Belarus, Belorussian is spoken in some rural areas, but scarcely in Minsk and other urban areas. This is because Russia used their old tactic of Russification. Russians understand that the more Russified a country is, the easier it is to annex it/puppet it, which is what they did with Belarus. Also, Ukrainians have had a history of animosity towards Russians. Ukraine is lucky to have made it this far without being Russified, and they're continuing their efforts.

I'm sorry, I don't deal in right-wing nationalist conspiracy theories. If you had something else to say which doesn't depend on animosity towards a specific ethnic or linguistic group, we could continue this conversation.

Lol that's not a right-wing nationalist conspiracy theory. Russification policies in the former Russian Empire and USSR are a well-established historical fact and most of the countries in Central and Eastern Europe stopped giving Russian favored-language status once they gained independence. Post-1994 Biełaruś is one of the only exceptions.
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Postby Marlenka » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:17 am

As a Russian, I just hope we don't escalate shit to WW3.
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Postby Sky Reavers » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:37 am

Marlenka wrote:As a Russian, I just hope we don't escalate shit to WW3.


As a Ukrainian, I'd rather prefere this all affair being sabre-rattling. We had enough problems on the east. No need for wars. Make love, dudes!
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Is Putin feeling small in the pants again?
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Postby Marlenka » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:10 am

The Holy Therns wrote:Is Putin feeling small in the pants again?


He always does, frankly speaking.
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