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A mean old man
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A map of NS Gameplay

Postby A mean old man » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:17 pm

The various formal blocs &/or informal spheres of influence (sometimes lack thereof, & sometimes I list the latter under the former & vice-versa; oh well) listed from THICCEST to smolest. Please thrash my (personal) based, dated, GCR-centric take on NS Gameplay and tell me what a fool I am for grouping certain regions together / excluding certain other regions that I didn't notice.

Idk wtf is going on with some of the "Defender"-tagged regions so feel free to insist that I delete some. I don't know your world like you do.

Also there's a cohort of vaguely-aligned "Pariah" regions with 200 - 300 total endos (I'd say maybe only ~150 of them are actually "organized" (such as they are) into a "sphere of influence") that I didn't even bother adding to this chart because that was sure to cause "problems" in this forum.

There are also some medium-sized regions like Forest that I didn't include because they strike me as dormant or uninvolved in GP and generally-unaligned but maybe that's just my shit take.

[Edit]: DRAFT 1 (11/21/2021):
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[Edit]: DRAFT 2 (11/26/2021):
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A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:26 pm

Pretty snazzy. I believe that Harkagrad is the founder of Celtia (using a generic "Celtia Regional Founder" puppet), GRO handed control of his nation over to Vandoosa, Nirupama is now Indusse, and Plembobria - the player behind the now-CTEd Merridel founder nation - is still somewhat active on his main account.

This colour scheme very much reminds me of the Frequency Finder aesthetic.
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Postby Quebecshire » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:29 pm

Oooo. This is interesting. In terms of abbreviations, Democratic Socialist Assembly uses DSA, The League uses TL, and Philippines uses PH. As you've implied, a lot of regions have the defender tag but aren't really defender. This is either regions using the tag because they generally support defenders (without being involved, Wintreath as a possible example) or because they have all or nearly all tags (Commonwealth of Liberty as an example).

As for TGW, "The Maker" and original Founder is Benevolent Thomas, but I believe the Founder nation is currently operated by Deadeye Jack. Refuge Isle/Luca can speak way more authoritatively than I ever could, but I don't think Refugia can be reasonably listed as "Altinofriendsphere". The UDS Founder is and (to my knowledge) always has been The Noble Thatcherites aka Thatcher Whitehall.

Celtia is a younger region but has some defender sympathies and some of the regional leaders are in Libcord (though are not super active).

Sorry if that's all jumbled about, but that's the main information I could think of adding to this right away. This is a really cool project and I hope you keep it up!
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Postby Hulldom » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:30 pm

Quebecshire wrote:Oooo. This is interesting. In terms of abbreviations, Democratic Socialist Assembly uses DSA, The League uses TL, and Philippines uses PH. As you've implied, a lot of regions have the defender tag but aren't really defender. This is either regions using the tag because they generally support defenders (without being involved, Wintreath as a possible example) or because they have all or nearly all tags (Commonwealth of Liberty as an example).

As for TGW, "The Maker" and original Founder is Benevolent Thomas, but I believe the Founder nation is currently operated by Deadeye Jack. Refuge Isle/Luca can speak way more authoritatively than I ever could, but I don't think Refugia can be reasonably listed as "Altinofriendsphere". The UDS Founder is and (to my knowledge) always has been The Noble Thatcherites aka Thatcher Whitehall.

Celtia is a younger region but has some defender sympathies and some of the regional leaders are in Libcord (though are not super active).

Sorry if that's all jumbled about, but that's the main information I could think of adding to this right away. This is a really cool project and I hope you keep it up!

I'd be a touch surprised if Celtia's were. I've known Sailiopia/Sail Nation/Prussian Sail Nation for over a year now. Cool dude but very Discord averse.
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Postby Varanius » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:47 pm

This is pretty cool. I do have some questions about why TWP would be placed in the “sphere” of a family that no longer exists (rahl) and a family with only a single government member in it (Astor) but aside from that, this is pretty neat.
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Postby Sailiopia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:09 pm

Hulldom wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:Oooo. This is interesting. In terms of abbreviations, Democratic Socialist Assembly uses DSA, The League uses TL, and Philippines uses PH. As you've implied, a lot of regions have the defender tag but aren't really defender. This is either regions using the tag because they generally support defenders (without being involved, Wintreath as a possible example) or because they have all or nearly all tags (Commonwealth of Liberty as an example).

As for TGW, "The Maker" and original Founder is Benevolent Thomas, but I believe the Founder nation is currently operated by Deadeye Jack. Refuge Isle/Luca can speak way more authoritatively than I ever could, but I don't think Refugia can be reasonably listed as "Altinofriendsphere". The UDS Founder is and (to my knowledge) always has been The Noble Thatcherites aka Thatcher Whitehall.

Celtia is a younger region but has some defender sympathies and some of the regional leaders are in Libcord (though are not super active).

Sorry if that's all jumbled about, but that's the main information I could think of adding to this right away. This is a really cool project and I hope you keep it up!

I'd be a touch surprised if Celtia's were. I've known Sailiopia/Sail Nation/Prussian Sail Nation for over a year now. Cool dude but very Discord averse.

Personally speaking I'm not in Libcord - although I'm not as anti-discord as I used to be but I still haven't gotten around to being on any regional discord servers. I've just not been involved in the defender-side of things so far - Harkagrad has been leading the region on that if I remember correctly, and currently they are heading up the government as well (I'm just the WA Delegate, and a few other roles) - they are definitely on Libcord.

We are still young but we've grown a lot in the last year we've been around and are slowly becoming more prominent in the NS community. I also note that Harkagrad owns the founder account, so that's another box of the table filled in.
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Postby Grea Kriopia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:24 pm

Oooo shapes and colors! This is fascinating to see laid out for once and highlights how successful outreach has been for certain spheres.

Quebec already did a good job pointing out some defender tags that don't necessarily equal sympathetic like with Commonwealth of Liberty, and I'd also add New World Union falls in the same camp of not being actually a defender region.

I already mentioned in the GP discord how Yggdrasil is probably better put with the other Alstroemerian Commonwealths because they are lovely but really not defender associated anymore. St. Abby and PH are already mentioned, but it would be worth adding on the major founderless regions with XKI embassies too such as Canada, Japan, South Pacific, Middle Earth, and Portugal because the relationships there are alive and well. European Union might be a solid addition for defender sympathetic, too, even if not the most GP active, as would be the region of Eurth as the predecessor of Europa, Chaylia for sure, and the emerging region of Atlanticana.

Another minor note would be that The Region That Has No Big Banks usually goes by TRTHNBB for short (if that even fits in the Abb. column).

India is...a place that while defender tagged would not be considered welcome in many of the regions listed as defender for various reasons. Force would be a similar situation of non-welcome, although for different reasons, and considered itself independent for a long time.

There's a notable lack of Warzones, too, which isn't unreasonable but I would expect to see Warzone Asia by TEP at least. Warzone Sandbox is always a standout for warzones but there is an XKI embassy there plus some defending help of late.

Could probably think of more things but that's the things that standout initially
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Postby A mean old man » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:57 pm

Thanks for all the surprisingly positive responses so far. I'm compiling what was said here & on Discord and will update the chart this weekend to reflect it. Please continue to provide corrections / suggestions.

It was asked if I was going to continue updating this - after the initial ~weekly corrections I'll strive to keep it updated maybe once a month, or at least quarterly. I'll retain historical snapshots as well, since those are always interesting.

And no, I will not be changing the eyebleed color scheme. :twisted:
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
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Postby One Small Island » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:02 pm

A mean old man wrote:And no, I will not be changing the eyebleed color scheme. :twisted:

The eyebleed color scheme is the best part of a very interesting look at gameplay.
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Postby Ainslie » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:16 pm

Yeah, well done OP this is a really cool project - especially as we come to the end of the year it's good to have this sort of stuff floating around - plus, I've always known there's massive alliances on the site but never quite seen the interregional relations as clearly put out as they are here.

Quebecshire wrote:O This is either regions using the tag because they generally support defenders <> because they have all or nearly all tags (Commonwealth of Liberty as an example).


I'm here just to toss a couple things into the thread that could be helpful. Firstly Quebecshire helpfully used the example of CoL to talk about regions that have defender tags but aren't in fact aligned - just so you can chase down one less region's status - The Western Isles is not openly defender sympathetic and would be another example of such a region. We're unaligned, especially in recent years as the few R/D players we did have (who were not directly endorsed by the government to do so) have either left that side of the game or left entirely.

So yeah, if you could move us to unaligned that'd be really good especially considering that formally speaking we very much keep out of the R/D side of NS these days :)

Also, our shortened form is TWI so you can get rid of the question mark as well after the three letters. Vancouvia remains to be our founder, although the President now presides over much of the day to day activities in the region. We're also very much an RP region and do not really have a sphere of influence nor are under one.
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Postby El Tejon » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:41 pm

Don't you have better things to do AMOM? This is straight up a lazy poorman's Unibot type shit. You are a capable and industrious MFer. This is unbecoming of your efforts.

Specifically, Altinosphere is just outdated and lazy. You have better intel than that. Same thing with the Rahl shit.

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Postby Cereskia 2 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:44 pm

Lol I thought that the "map" is a literal map of the land.
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Postby Alfonzo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:51 pm

El Tejon wrote:Don't you have better things to do AMOM?

don't we all though?
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:41 pm

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Postby FNU » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:52 pm

Beautiful work gent, and I'm a tad touched to see my region on this piece of art. Keep up the great work fella.
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Postby A mean old man » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:58 pm

El Tejon wrote:Specifically, Altinosphere is just outdated and lazy. You have better intel than that. Same thing with the Rahl shit.


nah man you're Rahl
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
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A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
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C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:38 pm

A mean old man wrote:
El Tejon wrote:Specifically, Altinosphere is just outdated and lazy. You have better intel than that. Same thing with the Rahl shit.


nah man you're Rahl

Badger is, himself, the Rahl sphere in TWP. Should've known SMH.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:41 pm

Anyways, some stuff:

- Can 2nd Quebecshire's fact. TGW's founder was Benevolent Thomas.
- By all appearances Rahl doesn't have a sphere anymore, so their inclusion in TWP seems like a legacy thing.
- You're outdated on Altino.
- Can 2nd what Grea Kriopia said about Force and India.
- TEP's "Unaligned, Unaffiliated" gets the biggest asterisk in existence simply because it's you describing where you are.
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Postby Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:42 pm

A mean old man wrote:The various formal blocs &/or informal spheres of influence (sometimes lack thereof, & sometimes I list the latter under the former & vice-versa; oh well) listed from THICCEST to smolest. Please thrash my (personal) based, dated, GCR-centric take on NS Gameplay and tell me what a fool I am for grouping certain regions together / excluding certain other regions that I didn't notice.

Idk wtf is going on with some of the "Defender"-tagged regions so feel free to insist that I delete some. I don't know your world like you do.

Also there's a cohort of vaguely-aligned "Pariah" regions with 200 - 300 total endos (I'd say maybe only ~150 of them are actually "organized" (such as they are) into a "sphere of influence") that I didn't even bother adding to this chart because that was sure to cause "problems" in this forum.

There are also some medium-sized regions like Forest that I didn't include because they strike me as dormant or uninvolved in GP and generally-unaligned but maybe that's just my shit take.

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Postby Hulldom » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:58 pm

RiderSyl wrote:- TEP's "Unaligned, Unaffiliated" gets the biggest asterisk in existence simply because it's you describing where you are.

I don't normally wade into these things, but from what I know about TEP, AMOM's right. They play both sides of R/D and maintain good relations with both. They are like the premier exponents of the whole unaligned thing.

And they aren't affiliated with WALL or anything, AMOM's classification of them with other regions may be more linked to the now defunct Consortium which Thaecia, TEP, and the Iwakusphere were all part of!
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Postby Varanius » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:40 pm

Yeah, do away with Altinosphere, it’s the Varasphere now.
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Postby Queen Yuno » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:05 pm

Man, reading your map, I'm dying

You named 19 regions after Altinosphere.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:13 am

Queen Yuno wrote:Man, reading your map, I'm dying

You named 19 regions after Altinosphere.

The metric used appears to be "spoke to Altino once", so that's not surprising.

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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:53 am

Refuge Isle wrote:
Queen Yuno wrote:Man, reading your map, I'm dying

You named 19 regions after Altinosphere.

The metric used appears to be "spoke to Altino once", so that's not surprising.

I bruhed Altino once on the NS Leaders server, where's Sophia's Honorary Altinosphere Membership?
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Postby Eastern Alksearia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:00 am

Queen Yuno wrote:Man, reading your map, I'm dying

You named 19 regions after Altinosphere.


Unless I'm missing something major here, there are only 11 regions that are listed as "Altiniosphere"

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