[DRAFT]By Far The Stariest Idea

[Biasaran]

Second Draft

[Tiltle]
By Far The Stariest Idea

[Desc]
As technology is rising the space industry is becoming larger by the day, in order to provide clean energy many have suggested to harness the sun itself by building a megastructure otherwise known as Dyson Sphere, however it will require a large investment a long with new technologies required to build the megastructure itself.
Changed to lengthen the description.

[Validity]
Not valid to countries that does not have a space program

[Option 1]
"This is an amazing suggestion, We will be closer to a type 2 civilization!"says @@RANDOMNAME@@ an award winning unnecessary invention scientist. "Just imagine it! We can power a new space race to other solar systems and give millions access to electricity! Sure it will cost high amount of money but nothing is free you know? Anyway would you like to buy this invention i made that can make your phone glow?"
Changed to mention the Kardashev Scale.

[Effect]70% of the national GDP is use to put mirrors in space.

[Option 2]
"Yes and we will force a mandatory 'sell your kidney for something that your already have' policy." Said your finance minister. "Look my point is it will take alot of money for something that most of our people already have and even if it will enable us to use intergalactic travel we wouldn't need it for another 5 billion years!" The minister pulls out their phone. "Woah 1 trillion dollar for a phone the size of an ant? This is amazing!"

[Effect]
People prioritize size over price tag.

[Option 3]
"Of course there is a between option, we can make our own sun!" Says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@ a nuclear enthusiasts. "Materials from the moon can help make a nuclear fusion reactor and while one of them cant power the whole world a chain of them could!" he opens a briefcase reviling various papers "Would you like to know how it all works?"

[Effect]
No one can go a day without thinking a nuclear explosion can occur (will achieve the policy Nuclear Power ID=l11.)

First draft

[Tiltle]
By Far The Stariest Idea

[Desc]
As technology is rising the space industry is becoming larger by the day, in order to provide clean energy many have suggested to harness the sun itself.
May need to shorten the description

[Validity]
Not valid to countries that does not have a space program

[Option 1]
"This is an amazing suggestion!"says @@RANDOMNAME@@ an award winning unnecessary invention scientist. "Just imagine it! We can power a new space race to other solar systems and give millions access to electricity! Sure it will cost high amount of money but nothing is free you know? Anyway would you like to buy this invention i made that can make your phone glow?"

[Effect]70% of the national GDP is use to put mirrors in space.

[Option 2]
"Yes and we will force a mandatory 'sell your kidney for something that your already have' policy." Said your finance minister. "Look my point is it will take alot of money for something that most of our people already have and even if it will enable us to use intergalactic travel we wouldn't need it for another 5 billion years!" The minister pulls out their phone. "Woah 1 trillion dollar for a phone the size of an ant? This is amazing!"

[Effect]
People prioritize size over price tag.

[Option 3]
"Of course there is a between option, we can make our own sun!" Says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@ a nuclear enthusiasts. "Materials from the moon can help make a nuclear fusion reactor and while one of them cant power the whole world a chain of them could!" he opens a briefcase reviling various papers "Would you like to know how it all works?"

[Effect]
No one can go a day without thinking a nuclear explosion can occur (will achieve the policy Nuclear Power ID=l11.)

[Tinhampton]

[Desc]
As technology is rising the space industry is becoming larger by the day, in order to provide clean energy many have suggested to harness the sun itself.
May need to shorten the description

Why? It's short enough as it is - and might need to be longer. Solar energy exists already and is nowhere near as drastic as this issue makes it out to be; perhaps you might be trying to focus on solar-powered spacecraft instead.

[Trotterdam]

Why? It's short enough as it is - and might need to be longer. Solar energy exists already and is nowhere near as drastic as this issue makes it out to be; perhaps you might be trying to focus on solar-powered spacecraft instead.

Solar-powered spacecraft are also pretty old and unremarkable technology. It's really perfectly-suited for that environment - at least, in the inner solar system. Unsurprisingly, solar power gets less effective the farther away you are from the sun.

I think the author meant to write about beamed power from orbital collectors, but it's not at all clear from the draft, and in any case that's a speculative technology that we're not particularly close to being able to do feasibly (I'm not convinced that it'll ever be worth it).

[Biasaran]

[Desc]
As technology is rising the space industry is becoming larger by the day, in order to provide clean energy many have suggested to harness the sun itself.
May need to shorten the description

Why? It's short enough as it is - and might need to be longer. Solar energy exists already and is nowhere near as drastic as this issue makes it out to be; perhaps you might be trying to focus on solar-powered spacecraft instead.

Why? It's short enough as it is - and might need to be longer. Solar energy exists already and is nowhere near as drastic as this issue makes it out to be; perhaps you might be trying to focus on solar-powered spacecraft instead.

Solar-powered spacecraft are also pretty old and unremarkable technology. It's really perfectly-suited for that environment - at least, in the inner solar system. Unsurprisingly, solar power gets less effective the farther away you are from the sun.

I think the author meant to write about beamed power from orbital collectors, but it's not at all clear from the draft, and in any case that's a speculative technology that we're not particularly close to being able to do feasibly (I'm not convinced that it'll ever be worth it).

Thanks for replying, however I'm talking about a Dyson Sphere. I should have probably metion it very sorry.

[Trotterdam]

Thanks for replying, however I'm talking about a Dyson Sphere.

That's even more impractical than the stuff I mentioned. I don't think we're likely to be building those anytime this millenium.

[Life empire]

Thanks for replying, however I'm talking about a Dyson Sphere.

That's even more impractical than the stuff I mentioned. I don't think we're likely to be building those anytime this millenium.

actually 1 large enough meteor could knock it partially in the star a dyson swarm might be better where you have tons of little units collecting energy instead of a big one on top of which a full dyson sphere would freeze the earth so a dyson swarm would be better

[Biasaran]

That's even more impractical than the stuff I mentioned. I don't think we're likely to be building those anytime this millenium.

actually 1 large enough meteor could knock it partially in the star a dyson swarm might be better where you have tons of little units collecting energy instead of a big one on top of which a full dyson sphere would freeze the earth so a dyson swarm would be better

That would probably be how a Dyson Sphere would die, I'm going to look deeper into a Dyson swarm. Maybe i should change it so that the player would choose on which version of Dyson Sphere would they choose or just don't build a Dyson Sphere.

[Daarwyrth]

While I love sci-fi, I am wondering whether this is something that would fit into the NS universe. The way I always understood tech to work in NS issues is like this: present day tech + max. 10/15 years into the future.

So, you'd probably get away with something slightly sci-fi, but something as vast as a Dyson Sphere or swarm? I doubt we'll reach that level of technology in real life this century.

If you'd insist on using this as an issue premise, then you'd have to scale this down to theoretical talk. Not an actual plan of doing it, but more of a "let's develop the theory and start working towards enacting it". Yet that in turn would lead to the question why the government would bother with something this theoretical. It seems more like an issue for scientists than for a political idea. Not to mention that it's impossible for a single nation to amass the resources necessary for a project of this scale.

I'm afraid the issue premise as the way I assume you want to do it won't work. However, perhaps there might be an issue in doing something special with solar power. Just not at the level of a Dyson Sphere or swarm.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

Dyson spheres are awesome, but entirely in the realm of science fiction at present. The idea of even enclosing the planet in a sphere would be beyond the logistics of modern society, let alone enclosing a solar system.

[Biasaran]

Dyson spheres are awesome, but entirely in the realm of science fiction at present. The idea of even enclosing the planet in a sphere would be beyond the logistics of modern society, let alone enclosing a solar system.

Dyson Sphere/swarm are definitely an over the top technology from science fiction, so i assume this issue shouldn't be submitted due to being ambitious?

[Outer Sparta]

Dyson spheres are awesome, but entirely in the realm of science fiction at present. The idea of even enclosing the planet in a sphere would be beyond the logistics of modern society, let alone enclosing a solar system.

Dyson Sphere/swarm are definitely an over the top technology from science fiction, so i assume this issue shouldn't be submitted due to being ambitious?

We do have issues that realm into the sci-fi world, but this one is not feasible enough and too much in the realm of science fiction to really be a viable issue.

[Hulldom]

Dyson spheres are awesome, but entirely in the realm of science fiction at present. The idea of even enclosing the planet in a sphere would be beyond the logistics of modern society, let alone enclosing a solar system.

New here, so pardon my ignorance of how the "Validity" system works, but couldn't the issue be predicated on having achieved a certain level of Scientific Advancement?

[Pythaga]

New here, so pardon my ignorance of how the "Validity" system works, but couldn't the issue be predicated on having achieved a certain level of Scientific Advancement?

Even with that Dyson Spheres are probably still too far on the fiction side of science fiction to work as an issue.

From the FAQ:

Is it too 'out there'? The issue base is set in the present-day. There are some issues that push or even break the usual boundaries, most notably the Vat issues, but by in large we want to keep it plausible to today's world. As a general rule of thumb, most five-minutes-in-the-future technologies are fine, but any tech that would completely transform the world's setting (such as Sleeving, or AI singularity, or unaging immortality) should be avoided.

[Umbratellus]

Dyson spheres are awesome, but entirely in the realm of science fiction at present. The idea of even enclosing the planet in a sphere would be beyond the logistics of modern society, let alone enclosing a solar system.

New here, so pardon my ignorance of how the "Validity" system works, but couldn't the issue be predicated on having achieved a certain level of Scientific Advancement?

It is possible to gate issues behind stat requirements, but even the most advanced NationStates nations based off existing issues would be limited to stuff like; rudimentary strong AIs, orbital weaponry, a space navy (maybe, the issue is ambiguous if you actually get one or not), plasma weapons, etc. All sci-fi stuff but all (except maybe the space navy) theoretically possible within the next few decades. Dyson spheres (especially the shells implied by the OP) are on such a vastly different technological level and scale it would be like expecting Medieval farmers to produce a moon rocket within twenty years. We're talking something that requires strip mining the entire solar system down to the core of gas giants just to theoretically produce enough materials for a few cm thick shell, to say nothing of the technology needed to efficiently capture and transmit the energy back to earth. Even rudimentary orbital solar-power collecting satellites capable of beaming energy back down to earth (remotely efficiently) are still beyond current technological capabilities, let alone a genuine megastructure.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

New here, so pardon my ignorance of how the "Validity" system works, but couldn't the issue be predicated on having achieved a certain level of Scientific Advancement?

Even with that Dyson Spheres are probably still too far on the fiction side of science fiction to work as an issue.

From the FAQ:

Is it too 'out there'? The issue base is set in the present-day. There are some issues that push or even break the usual boundaries, most notably the Vat issues, but by in large we want to keep it plausible to today's world. As a general rule of thumb, most five-minutes-in-the-future technologies are fine, but any tech that would completely transform the world's setting (such as Sleeving, or AI singularity, or unaging immortality) should be avoided.

I agree with CWA. He's awesome.