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Postby Baggieland » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:52 pm

It's been a while, but here's another one.

Here's the Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipping_boy

[TITLE] The Fall Guy

[DESCRIPTION] Upon completion of a hundred hours of community service, which included sanitation work at the national library, your volatile brother stumbled across the ancient practice of whipping boys.

[VALIDITY] all

[OPTION] "This is just what we need!" proclaims your brother, as he whacks his thigh with more vigour than usual. "As someone who is a close relation to the nation's leader, I should be exempt from receiving any form of punishment. After all, tiss not befitting for someone of such high stature. Instead, my best friend will step up to the plate and take the beating for me. Think about it @@LEADER@@, myself, you, sis, even that niece of ours, will never have to face punishment again. Hey Dave, you coming out for a drink tonight?"

[EFFECT] being a member of @@LEADER@@'s family is a lonely lot

[OPTION] "Umm… I think I'll pass on that drink," declares Dave, who has been hanging out with your brother since they were kids. "Whilst I have always enjoyed your brother's company and the shenanigans we get up to, I'm not keen on getting whipped on his behalf. If anything, your family should be setting a good example. I propose that any member of @@LEADER@@'s family that breaks the law should receive double the punishment."

[EFFECT] the government recently doubled the size of @@LEADER@@'s P.R. team

[OPTION] "By Jove, I think I've cracked it," announces @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Head of National Security. "We should make the punishment of using whipping boys applicable for every citizen. Think about it, the peer pressure is bound to reduce crime. A pair of hooligans out late at night, one is thinking of destroying property or mugging someone, their friend persuades them not to do it, as they don't want the beating. Welcome to a crime free @@NAME@@!"

[EFFECT] no one in @@NAME@@ has a BFF


[TITLE] The Fall Guy

[DESCRIPTION] Upon completion of a hundred hours of community service, which included sanitation work at the national library, your volatile brother stumbled across the ancient practice of whipping boys.

[VALIDITY] is a monarchy

[OPTION] "This is just what we need!" proclaims your brother, as he whacks his thigh with more vigour than usual. "As someone who is in line for the throne, I should be exempt from receiving any form of punishment. After all, tiss not befitting for someone with royal blood. Instead, my best friend will step up to the plate and take the beating for me. Think about it @@LEADER@@, myself, you, sis, even that niece of ours, will never have to face punishment again. Hey Dave, you coming out for a drink tonight?"

[EFFECT] no one wants to be friends with the royals

[OPTION] "Umm… I think I'll pass on that drink," declares Dave, who has been hanging out with your brother since they were kids. "Whilst I have always enjoyed your brother's company and the shenanigans we get up to, I'm not keen on getting whipped on his behalf. If anything, you royals should be setting a good example. I propose that any member of the royal family that breaks the law should receive double the punishment."

[EFFECT] royal scandals no longer make the headlines

[OPTION] "By Jove, I think I've cracked it," announces @@RANDOMNAME@@, your head of palace security. "We should make the punishment of using whipping boys applicable for every citizen. Think about it, the peer pressure is bound to reduce crime. A pair of hooligans out late at night, one is thinking of destroying property or mugging someone, their friend persuades them not to do it, as they don't want the beating. Welcome to a crime free @@NAME@@!"

[EFFECT] no one in @@NAME@@ has a BFF


I definitely want some help with the effect lines, they're all a bit too obvious. Plus anything else of course!
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Postby Daarwyrth » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:57 am

I like the idea and it's always nice to see monarchies get some love, but I have a concern about the validity. Not all nations choose to have their @@LEADER@@ be the monarch, and several other issues about the monarchy have kept it ambiguous whether @@LEADER@@ is the monarch or not. However, we do have the issue Rodney and Julietta, where @@LEADER@@ specifically is said to become the monarch. Therefore, my advice would be to perhaps have this be a follow-up issue to that option, where @@LEADER@@ becomes the monarch. That way you can keep the assumption that @@LEADER@@ is the monarch. If you want to keep this open to all monarchies however, then in that case you should change the brother and other family references to be more ambiguous.
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Postby Baggieland » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:54 pm

Yeah, that's always been a problem for monarchies. I think the best way around this is to keep it the way it is (punishment beneath leader's family), but remove all references to royalty.
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Postby Random Country 453632 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:48 pm

Quick question, is the draft title a reference to the 2020 bean game?
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Postby Baggieland » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:24 pm

Random Country 453632 wrote:Quick question, is the draft title a reference to the 2020 bean game?

Never heard of it!
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Postby Terrabod » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:39 am

I feel there's a missing "Corporal Punishment" validity here.
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Postby Baggieland » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:06 pm

Baggieland wrote:Yeah, that's always been a problem for monarchies. I think the best way around this is to keep it the way it is (punishment beneath leader's family), but remove all references to royalty.


Right, finally done that.

Terrabod wrote:I feel there's a missing "Corporal Punishment" validity here.


Definitely not. The premise states that an ancient form of corporal punishment was recently found out about. Whether NAME already has corporal punishment or not isn't relevant. Options 1 and 2 only apply to the governing family. Option 3 will enact the corporal punishment policy.

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Postby Terrabod » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:14 am

Baggieland wrote:Definitely not. The premise states that an ancient form of corporal punishment was recently found out about. Whether NAME already has corporal punishment or not isn't relevant. Options 1 and 2 only apply to the governing family. Option 3 will enact the corporal punishment policy.

You refer throughout to people getting whipped and beaten on other people's behalf ("my best friend will step up to the plate and take the beating for me", "I'm not keen on getting whipped on his behalf"). If the implication that whippings and beatings are used as a legal punishment in @@NAME@@ is unintentional, I think some clarity is required.
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Postby Baggieland » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:36 am

Terrabod wrote:"my best friend will step up to the plate and take the beating for me", "I'm not keen on getting whipped on his behalf"


That will happen if the player chooses option 1 or 2. Up to the editors (if they pick this one up) if they consider this to enact the corporal punishment policy. But this draft issue does not require "already has corporal punishment" policy in order to receive it.
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Postby Terrabod » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:52 am

Baggieland wrote:That will happen if the player chooses option 1 or 2. Up to the editors (if they pick this one up) if they consider this to enact the corporal punishment policy. But this draft issue does not require "already has corporal punishment" policy in order to receive it.

Oh, okay. I think my confusion came from the fact that those punishments are casually mentioned like beatings and whippings are seen as acceptable punishments. So options 1 and 3 would both implement the "Corporal Punishment" policy, then?
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Postby Baggieland » Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:03 am

Terrabod wrote:So options 1 and 3 would both implement the "Corporal Punishment" policy, then?


That's up to the editors. I'm certain 3 will, option 1 is up for debate, as it's only applicable to a tiny portion of the populace.
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Postby Cappedore » Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:06 am

How can this apply to nations... without monarchies...? I don't for a second believe that the validity of this issue is "all" .
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Postby Baggieland » Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:03 pm

Cappedore wrote:How can this apply to nations... without monarchies...? I don't for a second believe that the validity of this issue is "all" .

Did you read draft 2? All references to monarchies have been removed.
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Postby Akkoro » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:46 am

My first thought when reading option 2 was "the government recently doubled the size of @@LEADER@@'s PR team" as an effect line, but... eh.
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Postby Baggieland » Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:09 pm

Akkoro wrote:My first thought when reading option 2 was "the government recently doubled the size of @@LEADER@@'s PR team" as an effect line, but... eh.


Thanks! That's certainly better than what I had before. Edited into 2nd draft.
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