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[Suggestion] Nation Creation Freedoms

Postby Marxist Germany » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:02 am

When creating a nation, there currently exists an option to randomise freedoms, which can be used to obtain the desired level of base freedom for economic, social, and political freedoms. The problem with this option, is that it is cumbersome and time-consuming to find the desired levels of freedoms by randomising. For example, I tried creating a nation with maximum economic freedom, no social freedom, and no political freedom; it took several minutes of randomising to find a close approximation, which was still not perfect.

My suggestion is to replace the grid of freedoms in the nation-creation page, with a slider for each freedom, and a list of presets, such as for "conservative" or "socialist".
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Postby Fauzjhia » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:53 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:When creating a nation, there currently exists an option to randomise freedoms, which can be used to obtain the desired level of base freedom for economic, social, and political freedoms. The problem with this option, is that it is cumbersome and time-consuming to find the desired levels of freedoms by randomising. For example, I tried creating a nation with maximum economic freedom, no social freedom, and no political freedom; it took several minutes of randomising to find a close approximation, which was still not perfect.

My suggestion is to replace the grid of freedoms in the nation-creation page, with a slider for each freedom, and a list of presets, such as for "conservative" or "socialist".


no thanks
this is a very bad idea
the current nations creation process should be made harder to prevent nation to be created for the sole reason to take place in the WA census, thanks to their creation Civil rights / Political or economical freedom.

its already a big problem known as the womble, thanks to the countless womble nations in Chickens overlords who all have 97+ civil rights and will never decrease because they never answered a single issues in their existence.

I tried to talk to the founder, however they rejected my criticism.
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Postby Trivalve » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:18 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:When creating a nation, there currently exists an option to randomise freedoms, which can be used to obtain the desired level of base freedom for economic, social, and political freedoms. The problem with this option, is that it is cumbersome and time-consuming to find the desired levels of freedoms by randomising. For example, I tried creating a nation with maximum economic freedom, no social freedom, and no political freedom; it took several minutes of randomising to find a close approximation, which was still not perfect.

My suggestion is to replace the grid of freedoms in the nation-creation page, with a slider for each freedom, and a list of presets, such as for "conservative" or "socialist".

You can just select the centrist option then strongly agree with corporations are good for society, strongly disagree with capitalism on the way out, Strongly disagree with democracy, Strongly disagree with treating worst of citizens, strongly agree with conscription, and strongly disagree with drugs and you should get what you want :)
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Postby Marxist Germany » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:36 am

Fauzjhia wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:When creating a nation, there currently exists an option to randomise freedoms, which can be used to obtain the desired level of base freedom for economic, social, and political freedoms. The problem with this option, is that it is cumbersome and time-consuming to find the desired levels of freedoms by randomising. For example, I tried creating a nation with maximum economic freedom, no social freedom, and no political freedom; it took several minutes of randomising to find a close approximation, which was still not perfect.

My suggestion is to replace the grid of freedoms in the nation-creation page, with a slider for each freedom, and a list of presets, such as for "conservative" or "socialist".


no thanks
this is a very bad idea
the current nations creation process should be made harder to prevent nation to be created for the sole reason to take place in the WA census, thanks to their creation Civil rights / Political or economical freedom.

its already a big problem known as the womble, thanks to the countless womble nations in Chickens overlords who all have 97+ civil rights and will never decrease because they never answered a single issues in their existence.

I tried to talk to the founder, however they rejected my criticism.

How is it different from people answering issues, and eventually filling the WA census with their puppets?

Trivalve wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:When creating a nation, there currently exists an option to randomise freedoms, which can be used to obtain the desired level of base freedom for economic, social, and political freedoms. The problem with this option, is that it is cumbersome and time-consuming to find the desired levels of freedoms by randomising. For example, I tried creating a nation with maximum economic freedom, no social freedom, and no political freedom; it took several minutes of randomising to find a close approximation, which was still not perfect.

My suggestion is to replace the grid of freedoms in the nation-creation page, with a slider for each freedom, and a list of presets, such as for "conservative" or "socialist".

You can just select the centrist option then strongly agree with corporations are good for society, strongly disagree with capitalism on the way out, Strongly disagree with democracy, Strongly disagree with treating worst of citizens, strongly agree with conscription, and strongly disagree with drugs and you should get what you want :)

The effects of the questionnaire are minimal, relative to the base freedoms.
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Postby Comfed » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:44 am

It’s possible to get any nation classification from the questionnaire: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1344876
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Postby Panagouge » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:48 pm

Comfed wrote:It’s possible to get any nation classification from the questionnaire: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1344876

This is extremely useful. If the mods made an official Testlandia guide dispatch, this thread's problem is solved.

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Postby Fauzjhia » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:04 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
Fauzjhia wrote:
no thanks
this is a very bad idea
the current nations creation process should be made harder to prevent nation to be created for the sole reason to take place in the WA census, thanks to their creation Civil rights / Political or economical freedom.

its already a big problem known as the womble, thanks to the countless womble nations in Chickens overlords who all have 97+ civil rights and will never decrease because they never answered a single issues in their existence.

I tried to talk to the founder, however they rejected my criticism.

How is it different from people answering issues, and eventually filling the WA census with their puppets?


your wrong in thinking that I got a magical compass that raise my stats, and help me fill the pacifism (which I am good) with my puppets.
there are issues I answer that will lower my pacifism.
A long term road of my nations surely show an increase in pacifism, but that does not mean its only with issues that increase it.

remind you that Chickens overlord do not answer issues, they do nothing yet retain extremely high civil rights/ political freedom / economics freedom. aint very fair to anyone who play the game.
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Support : non-corrupt state, human rights, women rights, wild life protection, banning fossil fuel, cooperatives, journalists, Radio-Canada, Télé-Quebec, freedom and right to be informed, Quebec's Independence, Protection of the French Language, Immigration right and integration.

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