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Global Alliance OOC Thread

Postby Global Alliance-GA » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:56 pm

Global Alliance OOC Thread

The GA's OOC thread, where we OOCly discuss matters relating to the GA or major national/international events. This is not a chat thread.

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East Stal Saillnerce
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Postby East Stal Saillnerce » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:03 pm

We're currently challenging a ruling by Frisbeeteria. I do not want anybody to post in the IC thread until we get things sorted through, and to limit your posts to either the regional message board or the OOC thread.
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New Kowloon Bay
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Postby New Kowloon Bay » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:07 pm

Er... Nova and TKI, it's an online meetup, so there can't really be 'walking in' and '4 people scan the room.'
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The King Isle
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Postby The King Isle » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:47 am

New Kowloon Bay wrote:Er... Nova and TKI, it's an online meetup, so there can't really be 'walking in' and '4 people scan the room.'

I meant they walked in the room where the computer was
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East Stal Saillnerce
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Postby East Stal Saillnerce » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:38 am

Alright, the new IC thread has been created.
We have two things we need to post here, one we need to resolve and one we need to notify GA members with.

1. Should we have individual threads for each branch? We're holding an OOC vote because this fits OOC matters more than IC matters. I'll leave the decision to you guys and only vote if it's a tiebreaker.

2. I'm going to create all first 5 proposals simultaneously so we can get more done in a short period of time. I think it's advantageous to all remaining GA members.
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:40 am

East Stal Saillnerce wrote:Alright, the new IC thread has been created.
We have two things we need to post here, one we need to resolve and one we need to notify GA members with.

1. Should we have individual threads for each branch? We're holding an OOC vote because this fits OOC matters more than IC matters. I'll leave the decision to you guys and only vote if it's a tiebreaker.

2. I'm going to create all first 5 proposals simultaneously so we can get more done in a short period of time. I think it's advantageous to all remaining GA members.


For one, I agree with individual threads, but only if we vote on everything in the IC Queue first. This way, any other moderator challenges are avoided.
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Global Alliance-Military
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Founded: Sep 21, 2021
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Postby Global Alliance-Military » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:42 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
East Stal Saillnerce wrote:Alright, the new IC thread has been created.
We have two things we need to post here, one we need to resolve and one we need to notify GA members with.

1. Should we have individual threads for each branch? We're holding an OOC vote because this fits OOC matters more than IC matters. I'll leave the decision to you guys and only vote if it's a tiebreaker.

2. I'm going to create all first 5 proposals simultaneously so we can get more done in a short period of time. I think it's advantageous to all remaining GA members.


For one, I agree with individual threads, but only if we vote on everything in the IC Queue first. This way, any other moderator challenges are avoided.


If everybody agrees with you then that can work out, but my main concern for clearing the IC queue is that it could take months with all the proposals being added. I'm still working on the first 5 proposals, which at the moment are terribly written and consist mostly of filler.

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Global Alliance-Military
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Postby Global Alliance-Military » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:47 am

We're having deserters, new members, basically chaos. Most nations that have deserted happen to be alliance founders such as Nova Catania.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:50 am

Global Alliance-Military wrote:We're having deserters, new members, basically chaos. Most nations that have deserted happen to be alliance founders such as Nova Catania.


So what? I honestly do not care if you have a problem with Meretica or if anybody leaves. Joint memberships should be allowed in this alliance, UF should be recognized as a competitor to this alliance should they recognize GA, and, if anything, mind you, you should apologize to Meretica, either in telegram or on the forums, because not apologizing is only going to make this clear overreaction of yours worse.
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Postby Global Alliance-Military » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:54 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Global Alliance-Military wrote:We're having deserters, new members, basically chaos. Most nations that have deserted happen to be alliance founders such as Nova Catania.


So what? I honestly do not care if you have a problem with Meretica or if anybody leaves. Joint memberships should be allowed in this alliance, UF should be recognized as a competitor to this alliance should they recognize GA, and, if anything, mind you, you should apologize to Meretica, either in telegram or on the forums, because not apologizing is only going to make this clear overreaction of yours worse.


Once again, we could override the joint GA-UF membership ban, but if you haven't noticed we may gain a slight advantage here.

As Meretica refuses my demands, I'm not individually apologizing. I don't know why I should apologize anyways; there's no reason for an individual apology other than ego inflation or something else I can't think of.

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New Kowloon Bay
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Postby New Kowloon Bay » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:56 am

Ah yes, surely not allowing joint-alliance memberships and openly slandering nations and new alliances is definitely part of the GA's slogan for promoting international unity and stability.
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Yeah I don't know when I'm set in.
yet another uh.....
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More information here.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:59 am

Global Alliance-Military wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
So what? I honestly do not care if you have a problem with Meretica or if anybody leaves. Joint memberships should be allowed in this alliance, UF should be recognized as a competitor to this alliance should they recognize GA, and, if anything, mind you, you should apologize to Meretica, either in telegram or on the forums, because not apologizing is only going to make this clear overreaction of yours worse.


Once again, we could override the joint GA-UF membership ban, but if you haven't noticed we may gain a slight advantage here.

As Meretica refuses my demands, I'm not individually apologizing. I don't know why I should apologize anyways; there's no reason for an individual apology other than ego inflation or something else I can't think of.


What do you mean by override? Also, please telegram me what you mean by “slight advantage”, as well.
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:01 am

New Kowloon Bay wrote:Ah yes, surely not allowing joint-alliance memberships and openly slandering nations and new alliances is definitely part of the GA's slogan for promoting international unity and stability.


Sarcastic tone aside, NKB does have a point. However, ESS here does not like to listen to this kind of advice.
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The King Isle
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Postby The King Isle » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:52 am

I had to resign from the UF
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Global Alliance-GA
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Founded: Oct 16, 2021
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Postby Global Alliance-GA » Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:31 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
New Kowloon Bay wrote:Ah yes, surely not allowing joint-alliance memberships and openly slandering nations and new alliances is definitely part of the GA's slogan for promoting international unity and stability.


Sarcastic tone aside, NKB does have a point. However, ESS here does not like to listen to this kind of advice.


NKB does have a point. However, we destroy alliances we believe are literally based on us, and that actually have members. NKB, we're not slandering nations or new alliances, the anti-GA propaganda is so obvious here. It's just the UF we're attacking.

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Global Alliance-Military
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Postby Global Alliance-Military » Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:57 am

Are you guys willing to let our first conflict be a non-RPed defeat? I really want to show our members that we're willing to accept defeat and that we can RP realistically without the month-long hassle.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:36 am

Reviving this OOC thread as GA interim leader to prevent too much OOC chatter on the Main IC thread.
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South Americanastan
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Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:22 am

While the complaint was ruled inactionable, in accordance with clause 5 of the dissolution of the ICDN, I would request the ICDN be taken out of the L&D.
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The King Isle
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Postby The King Isle » Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:25 am

South Americanastan wrote:While the complaint was ruled inactionable, in accordance with clause 5 of the dissolution of the ICDN, I would request the ICDN be taken out of the L&D.

I don't think your a member
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:27 am

South Americanastan wrote:While the complaint was ruled inactionable, in accordance with clause 5 of the dissolution of the ICDN, I would request the ICDN be taken out of the L&D.


While I appreciate you doing this, as per GA policy, you need to sign up. Just post an app.

However, I will listen to your request.


"DECLARING That the ICDN or it's remnants shall not be joined into any other organization or survived by a direct successor" is clause 5, correct?
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Postby Janpia » Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:30 am

Question, is the recent bill or proposal, gonna eat NATO as a whole?

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South Americanastan
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Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:34 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:While the complaint was ruled inactionable, in accordance with clause 5 of the dissolution of the ICDN, I would request the ICDN be taken out of the L&D.


While I appreciate you doing this, as per GA policy, you need to sign up. Just post an app.

However, I will listen to your request.


"DECLARING That the ICDN or it's remnants shall not be joined into any other organization or survived by a direct successor" is clause 5, correct?

Yes, it is. That means that neither the ICDN or it's remnants can be joined into any other organization or made into a direct successor.

And before you say it, yes, the declaring clause does in fact put it into our post-mortem policy even though it's not part of the "hereby" clause.
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Auld Scotland
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Postby Auld Scotland » Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:37 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:While the complaint was ruled inactionable, in accordance with clause 5 of the dissolution of the ICDN, I would request the ICDN be taken out of the L&D.


While I appreciate you doing this, as per GA policy, you need to sign up. Just post an app.

However, I will listen to your request.


"DECLARING That the ICDN or it's remnants shall not be joined into any other organization or survived by a direct successor" is clause 5, correct?

Don't you have the power to ban him from the thread SM? This Is TKI here

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:40 am

South Americanastan wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
While I appreciate you doing this, as per GA policy, you need to sign up. Just post an app.

However, I will listen to your request.


"DECLARING That the ICDN or it's remnants shall not be joined into any other organization or survived by a direct successor" is clause 5, correct?

Yes, it is. That means that neither the ICDN or it's remnants can be joined into any other organization or made into a direct successor.

And before you say it, yes, the declaring clause does in fact put it into our post-mortem policy even though it's not part of the "hereby" clause.


That act never passed though, so I don't really see a reason to when it, even with majority, never formally was ratified.

However, there are other options that I would recommend. As of last night, the GA is currently in a recess period so that all ICDN, NATO, and CTDD members can get acquainted. If you want to pull ICDN out of the Liberty and Democracy branch, all members would have to vote on that once the recess period is over in the next couple of days.

Janpia wrote:Question, is the recent bill or proposal, gonna eat NATO as a whole?


Yes. NATO's autonomy will not be violated, though. This is thanks to talks with the Sec-Gen from New Provenance/Atlantica.



Auld Scotland wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
While I appreciate you doing this, as per GA policy, you need to sign up. Just post an app.

However, I will listen to your request.


"DECLARING That the ICDN or it's remnants shall not be joined into any other organization or survived by a direct successor" is clause 5, correct?

Don't you have the power to ban him from the thread SM? This Is TKI here



I have the power to do so, but here's the thing, I am going to hear him out and answer any questions he has.
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South Americanastan
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Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:45 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:Yes, it is. That means that neither the ICDN or it's remnants can be joined into any other organization or made into a direct successor.

And before you say it, yes, the declaring clause does in fact put it into our post-mortem policy even though it's not part of the "hereby" clause.


That act never passed though, so I don't really see a reason to when it, even with majority, never formally was ratified.

However, there are other options that I would recommend. As of last night, the GA is currently in a recess period so that all ICDN, NATO, and CTDD members can get acquainted. If you want to pull ICDN out of the Liberty and Democracy branch, all members would have to vote on that once the recess period is over in the next couple of days.

Janpia wrote:Question, is the recent bill or proposal, gonna eat NATO as a whole?


Yes. NATO's autonomy will not be violated, though. This is thanks to talks with the Sec-Gen from New Provenance/Atlantica.



Auld Scotland wrote:Don't you have the power to ban him from the thread SM? This Is TKI here



I have the power to do so, but here's the thing, I am going to hear him out and answer any questions he has.

I, personally, would say that the vote on dissolution would also count as a de facto vote to pull out given clause 5. It goes into effect on January 5th, which gives ample time for any extra members. It ends the ICDN, which pulling out would do anyway. Additionally, we don't really, uh... know how many active members we actually have at this point, so getting a solid majority of all members is pretty much impossible.
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