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Tracking TACLS abuse

Postby Benevolent Earth » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:27 am

The TACLS abusers have wrecked the financial balance of the card game by selling TACLS duplicated cards and it's easy to observe. https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 3/season=1

See recent S1 Eluvatar listed Finds below. Detectable TACLS abuse 35 days ago and 247 days. Look at the trade history and see Inflation 77, Inflation 57 & Inflation 9 gifted the duplicated cards to Purpura Heart who is currently selling them all three at auction for 150.00 bank. So far he has one buyer. Purpura Heart is selling 3 duplicated cards for 150.00 each. This is a rip off. But he's not alone in this and it's disgusting... but this is trackable using finds and trade history and can be exposed.

35 days ago: Found by Deflation 269
35 days ago: Found by Color 0x2C
35 days ago: Found by Inflation 77
35 days ago: Found by Dangine card farm9
35 days ago: Found by Inflation 57
35 days ago: Found by Editor-In-Chief
35 days ago: Found by Dangine card farm
35 days ago: Found by Inflation 9
35 days ago: Found by 099s Into Ejection Burn
145 days ago: Found by Centrist Card Farm 167
217 days ago: Found by Veskeland
235 days ago: Found by Testing nation 4447
247 days ago: Found by Cooki56
247 days ago: Found by Cooki97
247 days ago: Found by Oofery 101
247 days ago: Found by Marching band land
247 days ago: Found by Oaks 278
247 days ago: Found by Vylixan Soteria 210
247 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 136
247 days ago: Found by Wonder97
247 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 85
247 days ago: Found by Vylixan Neikea 180
247 days ago: Found by 353 Ohms
247 days ago: Found by Cooki23

It's easy to find these abuses looking at finds of S1 legendary cards. The "pull events" stand out. Trade History shows who they've been gifted to and also when TACLS abusers have sold these dupes ...and much bank is snatched.

This thread exists for exposing these transactions in similar fashion.
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Postby Comfed » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:29 am

Is this thread just to shame pull event hosts?
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Postby Benevolent Earth » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:32 am

Comfed wrote:Is this thread just to shame pull event hosts?


Stop it.

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Postby Laudesia » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:34 am

I don't have that card yet, thanks for informing me one is for sale for below MV.

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Postby Radicalania » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:58 am

Will you be letting us know when exposing pull events that are going to happen, or just ones that have happened. One of those would be a service.
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Postby Benevolent Earth » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:59 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... _history=1

In a pull event 175 days ago, S1 Testlandia were found by 37 nations including Gio card farm 3, Gio card farm 155 & Gio card farm 152. The cards were gifted to GiovanniCards the same day, then the three were gifted to Giovanniland in Europeia 44 days later. Next they're gifted to Purpura Heart after 48 more days pass. Another 48 days passes and Purpura Heart sells them to Bawkie for 500.00 bank each.

71 days ago: Found by Card Bou 46
71 days ago: Found by 43 Buckaroos
71 days ago: Found by Card Bou 193
71 days ago: Found by Card Bou 187
71 days ago: Found by White Walker 36
71 days ago: Found by White Walker 33
71 days ago: Found by Money Mint
71 days ago: Found by Chess Player Teimour Radjabov
71 days ago: Found by Andusrean Army 56
71 days ago: Found by Card Boy 15
71 days ago: Found by Card Boy 4
71 days ago: Found by Andusrean Army 2
71 days ago: Found by The Shiba Card Farmer 248
71 days ago: Found by The Shiba Card Farmer 243
71 days ago: Found by Deflation 280
71 days ago: Found by HNoMS Thor Heyerdahl
71 days ago: Found by The Shiba Card Farmer 189
71 days ago: Found by NS
71 days ago: Found by 056s Into Ejection Burn
109 days ago: Found by Minskiev-177
175 days ago: Found by Gio Farm 3
175 days ago: Found by Onyx Dragonia
175 days ago: Found by Gio Farm 155
175 days ago: Found by Gio Farm 152
175 days ago: Found by Ice Dragonia
175 days ago: Found by Depressed Nation
175 days ago: Found by Earth Dragonia
175 days ago: Found by Starlight Glimmer 175
175 days ago: Found by Starlight Glimmer 149
175 days ago: Found by Oofery 3
175 days ago: Found by Starlight Glimmer 126
175 days ago: Found by Starlight Glimmer 119
175 days ago: Found by Python33
175 days ago: Found by Beans on Toast 10
175 days ago: Found by Crown 44
175 days ago: Found by Kyo cards 3
175 days ago: Found by Starlight Glimmer 85
175 days ago: Found by Random nation 77
175 days ago: Found by 339th Angel of The Army
175 days ago: Found by Nocturne 6
175 days ago: Found by Andusrean Army 40
175 days ago: Found by Andusrean Army 31
175 days ago: Found by Centrist Card Farm 043
175 days ago: Found by 225th Angel of The Army
175 days ago: Found by Fauxian Card Farm 57
175 days ago: Found by Cwh352
175 days ago: Found by A Library With 87542 Books
175 days ago: Found by Leftist Card Farmer 18
175 days ago: Found by A Library With 87525 Books
175 days ago: Found by Euro 125
175 days ago: Found by Ioke 100
175 days ago: Found by Audit the Fed 027
175 days ago: Found by Euro 092
175 days ago: Found by Euro 081
175 days ago: Found by The Magic of Starfall
175 days ago: Found by Trytoescape19
175 days ago: Found by Shell Gogmosion
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Postby 9003 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:01 am

Considering most pull events thrive on publicity and having extra awareness of them you better watch out on the TnP forum I hear they post about them ahead of time and have one every month!


How scandalous
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Postby Laudesia » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:04 am

Why does Gio get a mention for finding three, but I don't get a shoutout for finding five, this seems unfair.

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Postby Barlyy » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:06 am

Kudos to you for making this thread, Benevolent! However, even if your intentions are good, now S1 Eluvatar is in auction and, from the looks of it, Purpura heart will make at least 450 bank from this auction. Giving exposure to these low asks will only help the abusers. Therefore, I believe that you should not continue with this thread - but if you do, just make sure you're not listing off cards with very attractive asks on them.

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Postby Benevolent Earth » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:10 am

9003 wrote:Considering most pull events thrive on publicity and having extra awareness of them you better watch out on the TnP forum I hear they post about them ahead of time and have one every month!


How scandalous


Any player can use this thread in a similar manner as demonstrated in the OP and in the post preceding yours.

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Postby Giovanniland » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:12 am

Thank you Benevolent for advertising my sale, my profits on that card jumped from 150 to over 450.
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Postby Benevolent Earth » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:16 am

Giovanniland wrote:Thank you Benevolent for advertising my sale, my profits on that card jumped from 150 to over 450.


I believe the word is incorrigible.

Barlyy wrote:Kudos to you for making this thread, Benevolent! However, even if your intentions are good, now S1 Eluvatar is in auction and, from the looks of it, Purpura heart will make at least 450 bank from this auction. Giving exposure to these low asks will only help the abusers. Therefore, I believe that you should not continue with this thread - but if you do, just make sure you're not listing off cards with very attractive asks on them.

- Barlyy


It is the intention to demonstrate to new players how TACLS abuse has distorted MV and DV for a number of cards plus the banks of these players nations. S3 needs a fix on this problem, if nothing else.
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Postby Fauzjhia » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:39 am

.. the numbers of players who (profit from tacls abuse) are really small, Gio, Mikes, seanat among others, it is however a problem, which I would like to fix by replacing pull event with mythical cards.

however, TACLS is still a function intended in making transfer harder, who need to keep that in mind.
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Postby Benevolent Earth » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:15 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... _history=1


In a pull event 78 days ago, S1 Nervun cards were drawn by 37 nations including 1050322, & 1050321. The two cards were gifted to Grey Iree the same day, then Grey Iree sold them the next day to Seanat for 375.00 bank each.

In a pull event 197 days ago, S1 Nervun cards were drawn by 25 nations including The 47th workers agriculture committee & The 39th workers agriculture committee. The two cards were gifted to Prplia the same day, then Prplia sold one copy 6 days later to The Unified Missourtama States for 240.00 bank and the other copy was sold 13 days later to Riemstagrad for 270.00 bank.

78 days ago: Found by Tb
78 days ago: Found by Gio Farm 136
78 days ago: Found by Gio Farm 115
78 days ago: Found by Hillary Clinton 2016
78 days ago: Found by 1050322
78 days ago: Found by 1050321
78 days ago: Found by Gio Farm 57
78 days ago: Found by ----------------_-----
78 days ago: Found by Beans on Toast 13
78 days ago: Found by MSN 82
78 days ago: Found by Hawk14
78 days ago: Found by Centrist Card Farm 089
197 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 369
197 days ago: Found by 100 Buckaroos
197 days ago: Found by Peridot d-cut 5
197 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 338
197 days ago: Found by Gio Farm 177
197 days ago: Found by Radon Dragonia
197 days ago: Found by Kyber 7
197 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 265
197 days ago: Found by Maple Dragonia
197 days ago: Found by Lunar Dragonia
197 days ago: Found by Shes A Rainbow
197 days ago: Found by Sorianora card farm 25
197 days ago: Found by Marys Kitchen
197 days ago: Found by The 47th workers agriculture committee
197 days ago: Found by Dream Dragonia
197 days ago: Found by Cwh93
197 days ago: Found by The 39th workers agriculture committee
197 days ago: Found by Liznhia
197 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 154
197 days ago: Found by Kortfarmare 299
197 days ago: Found by Spirit fox 74
197 days ago: Found by AtlaeLIX
197 days ago: Found by Ooferian farmer army 49
198 days ago: Found by 10KI Card Farm GK 30
198 days ago: Found by Kortfarmare 208

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Postby Apatosaurus » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:20 pm

Benevolent Earth wrote:175 days ago: Found by Python33

Yay I'm mentioned
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Postby Fauzjhia » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:00 pm

Benevolent Earth wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/card=5/season=1/finds_history=1

197 days ago: Found by Radon Dragonia
197 days ago: Found by Maple Dragonia
197 days ago: Found by Lunar Dragonia
197 days ago: Found by Dream Dragonia
197 days ago: Found by Liznhia


and if you followed my trade, you would see that I keep none of the card I've pulled.
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Postby Benevolent Earth » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:06 pm

Apatosaurus wrote:
Benevolent Earth wrote:175 days ago: Found by Python33

Yay I'm mentioned


Then you gifted that duplicated S1 Testlandia card to your main, The Python . You sold it 100 days later to Mikeswill for 420.72.

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Postby Apatosaurus » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:09 pm

Benevolent Earth wrote:
Apatosaurus wrote:Yay I'm mentioned


Then you gifted that duplicated S1 Testlandia card to your main, The Python . You sold it 100 days later to Mikeswill for 420.72.

Yes :p that is true, though I now use this as my main and transferred my deck over a while ago.
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Postby Benevolent Earth » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:20 pm

Apatosaurus wrote:
Benevolent Earth wrote:
Then you gifted that duplicated S1 Testlandia card to your main, The Python . You sold it 100 days later to Mikeswill for 420.72.

Yes :p that is true, though I now use this as my main and transferred my deck over a while ago.


Part of a chain of deck Laundr-o-mats? :p

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Postby Benevolent Earth » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:51 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... ?start=125

In a pull event 213 days ago, S2 Rameaus cards were drawn by 30 nations including Gio Farm 171. The card was gifted to GiovanniCards the same day and sold the next day to HumanSanity for 300.00 bank.
S2 Rameaus cards were also drawn by Calling Listening & Solitaire-. These two cards were gifted to Velvet Elvis the same day, then Velvet Elvis sold both copies 2 days later. One copy sold to Maztetrua for 182.50 bank (who sold it 57 days later to The Champions League for 237.00 bank). The other copy was sold to Mikeswill for 157.50 bank.


33 days ago: Found by Marshall-AR-
33 days ago: Found by Aculeus
33 days ago: Found by Boeotian Thebes
33 days ago: Found by Maple Miaodao
33 days ago: Found by K 10
33 days ago: Found by Minskiev-206
33 days ago: Found by ARC-77
33 days ago: Found by Taun XVIII
33 days ago: Found by White Walker 78
33 days ago: Found by Susuis Amoungus
34 days ago: Found by Yuyu Puppet 80
34 days ago: Found by White Walker 49
34 days ago: Found by White Walker 36
43 days ago: Found by Deliber
45 days ago: Found by FH Uillenn
54 days ago: Found by Sunset shimmer is best pony 147
54 days ago: Found by Deflation 403
54 days ago: Found by Deflation 389
54 days ago: Found by Deflation 380
54 days ago: Found by Card for Bob7
54 days ago: Found by Regulusager
54 days ago: Found by Deflation 183
136 days ago: Found by San Diego County
160 days ago: Found by Zip460
179 days ago: Found by Urial39
180 days ago: Found by Minskiev-85
186 days ago: Found by Salzcovia
212 days ago: Found by The 227th flower
212 days ago: Found by Card farmer dodo 68
212 days ago: Found by The 56th flower
212 days ago: Found by Oofery 29
212 days ago: Found by Oneway Ticket
212 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 411
212 days ago: Found by 100 silly somethings
213 days ago: Found by Atlaesian federal district 30
213 days ago: Found by Tina is what I see
213 days ago: Found by Tetrapentacontylamide
213 days ago: Found by Centrist Card Farm 187
213 days ago: Found by Calling Listening
213 days ago: Found by Sad kittens
213 days ago: Found by Solitaire-
213 days ago: Found by One Wing
213 days ago: Found by Zip517
213 days ago: Found by Cave125
213 days ago: Found by Oaks 108
213 days ago: Found by Gio Farm 171
213 days ago: Found by Comerciante
213 days ago: Found by Eskiel
213 days ago: Found by Furry army
213 days ago: Found by 17 Buckaroos
213 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 107
213 days ago: Found by Oaks 206
213 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 92
213 days ago: Found by Centrist Card Farm 040
213 days ago: Found by Cauzrailia
213 days ago: Found by Card Farm ENE 4
213 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 64
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Postby Fauzjhia » Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:08 pm

Season 1 Rameus

that card does not exist man.


ok serious now.
although, yes I pulled and I think I still have it.
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Postby Panagouge » Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:52 pm

Admittedly, it would be nice to have a system to mint copies of cards without having to rely on TACLS.

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Postby Benevolent Earth » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:24 am

Fauzjhia wrote:Season 1 Rameus

that card does not exist man.


ok serious now.
although, yes I pulled and I think I still have it.


That was just a typo, same as your spelling of Rameaus. Seriously though, it is a very nice card and i wish i had a copy.

Panagouge wrote:Admittedly, it would be nice to have a system to mint copies of cards without having to rely on TACLS.


If every player (not nation) had the same ability to create a small wish list of cards which would be guaranteed of getting drawn once by that player in a fairly short time frame, yes, that would be nice. Probably doable too.
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Postby Benevolent Earth » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:13 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 1/season=1

In a pull event 166 days ago, S1 Crazy Girl cards were drawn by 57 nations including Blunderbuss-, Vega ai03, Velvet Elvis and How Can I Tell You. These four cards were gifted to Witchcraft and Sorcery the same day, then Witchcraft and Sorcery sold one copy 70 days later to Fauzjhia for 275.00 bank.

In a pull event 267 days ago, S1 Crazy Girl cards were drawn by 30 nations including IWCA 059 and IWCA 063. These two cards were gifted to Radicalania the same day, then Radicalania sold one copy to Witchcraft and Sorcery on the same day for 275.00 bank. Radicalania sold the other copy two days later to Rain Delay for 300.00 bank.

96 days ago: Found by Haremm
117 days ago: Found by Minskiev-20
148 days ago: Found by Sekandes
166 days ago: Found by THE Bersarker
166 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 241
166 days ago: Found by Real 37
166 days ago: Found by Lepu denthosenastai
166 days ago: Found by AtlaeLXXX
166 days ago: Found by Real 10
166 days ago: Found by Presidente Sarney
166 days ago: Found by Absolute communism403
166 days ago: Found by Blunderbuss-
166 days ago: Found by Absolute communism318
166 days ago: Found by Cooki296
166 days ago: Found by Vega ai03
166 days ago: Found by Ooferian farmer army 99
166 days ago: Found by Opal Magnate 43
166 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 61
166 days ago: Found by Bawkie Mix AA
166 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 53
166 days ago: Found by The Trouble Enchantress
166 days ago: Found by Euro 185
166 days ago: Found by Cave65
166 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 9
166 days ago: Found by Minskiev-244
166 days ago: Found by The Rocky Mountains Pioneers
166 days ago: Found by Minskiev-243
166 days ago: Found by Cave92
166 days ago: Found by Absolute communism47
166 days ago: Found by Starlight Glimmer 7
166 days ago: Found by How Can I Tell You
166 days ago: Found by Euro 054
166 days ago: Found by Gio Farm 91
166 days ago: Found by Panagouge0003
166 days ago: Found by Euro 004
166 days ago: Found by Atlaesian federal district 5
166 days ago: Found by Purple Dragonia
166 days ago: Found by Emergency Puppet 58
166 days ago: Found by Princess Pikathink
166 days ago: Found by Fauxian Card Farm 59
166 days ago: Found by Cwh1
166 days ago: Found by Thasinia 9th Element
166 days ago: Found by Kortfarmare 231
166 days ago: Found by The Shiba Card Farmer 34
166 days ago: Found by Fluttershy 4
166 days ago: Found by Fauxian Card Farm 47
166 days ago: Found by West March
166 days ago: Found by Space Marine 1
166 days ago: Found by The Shiba Card Farmer 5
166 days ago: Found by Everywhere You Look
166 days ago: Found by SwordandShield5
166 days ago: Found by Cave237
166 days ago: Found by Caraznhelia
166 days ago: Found by Twilight Sparkle 21
166 days ago: Found by Beizjhia
166 days ago: Found by Kortfarmare 123
166 days ago: Found by Twilight Sparkle 9
166 days ago: Found by Twilight Sparkle 4
229 days ago: Found by Thy hunters
267 days ago: Found by Mex-berry
267 days ago: Found by FGWF
267 days ago: Found by TealaLXI
267 days ago: Found by 63 concentric circles
267 days ago: Found by Herbert Brownell
267 days ago: Found by TealaXIX
267 days ago: Found by Starlight Glimmer 103
267 days ago: Found by The Toronto Maple Leafs
267 days ago: Found by Sky Blue Sky
267 days ago: Found by The Utah Jazz
267 days ago: Found by Frenchy 39
267 days ago: Found by IWCA 063
267 days ago: Found by IWCA 059
267 days ago: Found by Princess Luna 32
267 days ago: Found by Rarity 93
267 days ago: Found by Monarchy of Roses-
267 days ago: Found by Blob 179
267 days ago: Found by Rarity 49
267 days ago: Found by Cooki266
267 days ago: Found by Cooki269
267 days ago: Found by Light11
267 days ago: Found by Fauxian card farm 8
267 days ago: Found by Blob 151
267 days ago: Found by Cave219
267 days ago: Found by 341st Angel of The Army
267 days ago: Found by Rainbow Dash 4
267 days ago: Found by 10KI Card Farm GK 42
267 days ago: Found by Silver fox 89
267 days ago: Found by Applejack 10
267 days ago: Found by Cornelius Oswald Fudge
269 days ago: Found by Crown 48
296 days ago: Found by Sirialia
314 days ago: Found by Jannus the Third
314 days ago: Found by Second best puppet 91
314 days ago: Found by The 2nd flower
314 days ago: Found by Free Las Pinas Card Farm 172
314 days ago: Found by Spirit fox 98
314 days ago: Found by Tcam43
314 days ago: Found by 143 silly somethings
314 days ago: Found by Aquaviva XXV
314 days ago: Found by Oaks 42
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Postby Radicalania » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:56 pm

I dont remember having CG :thonk:
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