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Paddy O Fernature
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:58 am

Quoted and underlined for context.

Chess Reloaded wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Dwindle in the West, perhaps. Not elsewhere where Islam is socially ingrained eg Pakistan. In Pakistan it's socially acceptable to kidnap non-Muslim girls and force them to marry and convert. It's even protected by their courts. There is no hope of dwindling in such a barbaric place.

Kind of like saying in Orthodox countries it's socially acceptable to kidnap kids and force them into pornography. Isn't Russia the number one producer of child porn?


Literally making the untrue claim that it's "socially acceptable" in western countries to kidnap underage children and force them to work as basically sex slaves. This.. this isn't even an argument. It's a all X is Y statement meant purely to inflame and troll based purely upon a users hatred of the west and without a shred of actual fact.

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Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:It is not unreasonable to point out that the people supposedly advocating for a principle are not themselves interested in following it. Christian Russia, Muslim Pakistan... what’s the big difference anyways?

That being said, though, even though both Christianity and Islam are both widespread global religions with some enlightened adherents and some less enlightened ones, the social, economic, cultural, and intellectual core of modern Christendom is the North Atlantic in the same way that the core of today’s Dar-al-Islam is the Middle East and it would take some brazenly willful blindness to pretend that, say, the British Conservative Party is on the same level as the Taliban when it comes to the freedom and human dignity that these two political organisations provide to the human beings under their respective governance.

Russian authoritarianism and romantic Christian reaction is pretty peripheral to modern Christendom in a way that comparable Islamic radicals simply are not to modern Dar-al-Islam.

Heck, I consider myself a pretty fervent anti-American and even I would blanch at that level of willful blindness.

Aren't Tories pro abortion? I would like say that's a lot worse than most Islamists


Where I live, the term "Tories" is a well known and used derogatory term given to Pro-British supporters in my state during the Revolution and continues to be used as such today as an off colored political remark towards political groups. As such used here, it reads as a derogatory remark towards Americans in particular because we are apparently are pro-abortion.

Chess Reloaded wrote:I consider Shari'ah more civilized than barbaric western legal codes which lack due process and permit pornography, which punish poor people owning guns with prison while letting murdering police roam free, which persecute the homeless while showing gentleness to wealthy thieves, which make abortion quick and easy but marriage and divorce complicated legal matters, which tax income from labor higher than usury.


Besides advocating for Sharia, this entire post is clearly meant to troll and bait people, nothing more.

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Postby Santheres » Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:46 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:Quoted and underlined for context.

Chess Reloaded wrote:Kind of like saying in Orthodox countries it's socially acceptable to kidnap kids and force them into pornography. Isn't Russia the number one producer of child porn?


Literally making the untrue claim that it's "socially acceptable" in western countries to kidnap underage children and force them to work as basically sex slaves. This.. this isn't even an argument. It's a all X is Y statement meant purely to inflame and troll based purely upon a users hatred of the west and without a shred of actual fact.


You can argue against their point. You need only look to Lady Victory's post, which provides valuable context for the statement and makes it clearly not trolling (i.e. the statement is "the statement you just made is like if I said this" - it's a rhetorical device).

Borderline but ultimately not actionable.

Chess Reloaded wrote:Aren't Tories pro abortion? I would like say that's a lot worse than most Islamists


Where I live, the term "Tories" is a well known and used derogatory term given to Pro-British supporters in my state during the Revolution and continues to be used as such today as an off colored political remark towards political groups. As such used here, it reads as a derogatory remark towards Americans in particular because we are apparently are pro-abortion.


Tories are a British political party which were referenced in the post they were replying to. Not actionable.

Chess Reloaded wrote:I consider Shari'ah more civilized than barbaric western legal codes which lack due process and permit pornography, which punish poor people owning guns with prison while letting murdering police roam free, which persecute the homeless while showing gentleness to wealthy thieves, which make abortion quick and easy but marriage and divorce complicated legal matters, which tax income from labor higher than usury.


Besides advocating for Sharia, this entire post is clearly meant to troll and bait people, nothing more.


These are arguments that you can engage with, and advocating for Sharia is not against the rules the last time I checked. Not actionable.

Fight them with debate, not with moderation.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:00 pm

Second opinion requested for the 1st and 3rd point of contention.

Secondly, I'm not trying to "debate with moderation" here, simply reporting possible rules violations as I come across them. Implying that I am really isn't becoming of you.
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Postby Santheres » Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:02 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:Second opinion requested for the 1st and 3rd point of contention.


Flare's up

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:29 pm

Just going to report this there too.
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:35 pm

sigh

Diahon wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:This has regressed to something worse than I expected.


sigh

that said, let's make this personal: would our extremist duo make time to kill our resident ahmadi here -- jolthig, say -- when convenient?

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