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[LAST CALL] Regulation of Yogurt Viscosity Act

Postby Brototh » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:26 pm

Greetings, ambassadors! I bring to you today the Regulation of Yogurt Viscosity Act.

Regulation of Yogurt Viscosity Act
Category: Regulation - Consumer Protection

The General Assembly,

Acknowledging the travesty of inconsistency that is the dairy industry, which suffers from a lack of regulation,

Whereas the viscosity of yogurt is typically too liquid or too thick,

Noting that some cheeses, when produced in unfavourable fashion, may cause health concerns to the general populace,

Shocked at the products that are considered to be "yogurt" to consumers and seeking to protect said consumers,

And with respect to member nations who may spell yogurt as 'yoghurt' or through any other variation,

Hereby:

  1. Defines the following food products,

    1. Yogurt, and any linguistic and spelling variations thereof, as a milk product obtained by the fermentation of milk-specific micro-organisms, and which shall have an approximate viscosity between 1,790 centipoise and 2,150 centipoise at room temperature,
    2. Cheese, as a milk product, although typically of lower lactose than other milk products, consisting of the coagulated, compressed, and usually ripened curd of milk separated from the whey, and possessing an approximate viscosity of above 5,000 centipoise, and below 30,000 centipoise at room temperature.
  2. The Cheese and Yogurt Administration is established, herein referred to as the CYA, in order to enforce regulations on viscosity and the processing of yogurts and cheeses,

    1. The CYA shall create a registry of yogurts and cheeses that have a historical link to the culture of member states, and enforces member states to aid the CYA in doing so in order to preserve the intangible cultural heritage of yogurt and cheeses,
    2. The General Fund shall allocate any appropriate annual funding to the CYA in order to enforce the provisions as set out in this resolution, and prevent any unnecessary health issues relating to yogurt or cheese.
  3. Bars member states from,
    1. Labeling products for sale as yogurt or cheese related if they do not fit within the definitions in 1(a) and 1(b), with exception to products that are not expected to be served or used at room temperature,
    2. Incorrectly labeling products that fall under the definitions in 1(a) and 1(b).

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:35 pm

Yogurt viscosity? Now that's something I've never even considered and frankly, never even paid attention to.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:52 pm

Elsie Mortimer Wellesley. I would recommend the ambassador create specific viscosity regulations rather than delegating their creation to some body. It's like a box of chocolates: you never know what you're going to get.

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Postby Brototh » Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:09 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Elsie Mortimer Wellesley. I would recommend the ambassador create specific viscosity regulations rather than delegating their creation to some body. It's like a box of chocolates: you never know what you're going to get.
IC: I fail to understand what is meant, ambassador, as you can see in the draft resolution, the creation of both yogurts and cheese is regulated - via "the fermentation of milk-specific micro-organisms" for yogurt, and "coagulated, compressed, and usually ripened curd of milk separated from the whey" for cheeses.

Additionally, the draft includes an approximate centipoise for the yogurts and cheeses. The intention of the CYA is not to create regulations, only to gather information for a registry on "yogurts and cheeses that have a historical link to the culture of member states", and to enforce the regulations set out in Article 1.
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Postby Bananaistan » Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:24 pm

“Full support. Runny yoghurt is a travesty. It’s about time someone stood up to the cowboys passing off thick milk as yoghurt.”
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:08 pm

Brototh wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Elsie Mortimer Wellesley. I would recommend the ambassador create specific viscosity regulations rather than delegating their creation to some body. It's like a box of chocolates: you never know what you're going to get.
IC: I fail to understand what is meant, ambassador, as you can see in the draft resolution, the creation of both yogurts and cheese is regulated - via "the fermentation of milk-specific micro-organisms" for yogurt, and "coagulated, compressed, and usually ripened curd of milk separated from the whey" for cheeses.

Additionally, the draft includes an approximate centipoise for the yogurts and cheeses. The intention of the CYA is not to create regulations, only to gather information for a registry on "yogurts and cheeses that have a historical link to the culture of member states", and to enforce the regulations set out in Article 1.

I think I misread the proposal. The correction is well taken.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:46 pm

Bananaistan wrote:“Full support. Runny yoghurt is a travesty. It’s about time someone stood up to the cowboys passing off thick milk as yoghurt.”

Ambassador Tav (in his Western-style voice impression): Damn those sons of guns, trying to treat thick milk as yogurt! What's next? Treating cream as yogurt? Putting pineapples on pizzas? Putting ketchup on pastas?
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Postby Morover » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:52 pm

Jack Smith.

"I support this endeavor in principle. I think there is a challenge in the definition for 'yogurt', in trying to utilize all the linguistic variations of it right away - I think it could be better phrased as 'Yogurt and any linguistic and spelling variations thereof as a milk product...' I will forward this proposal to the rest of the Morovian delegation and get back to you with more feedback later."
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Postby Xernon » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:58 pm

If I may, I want to compliment the madam representative from the Kingdom of Brototh on a very well written resolution and an even better topic of choice. Though the liberal establishment may wish to distract us from this topic while they line their pockets with the profits they gain from selling thickened milk as yogurt, it is exciting and refreshing to see a resolution dealing with this all pertinent issue.

If I was to offer any feedback on the resolution, it would only be to recommend changing the word "dairty" in the first clause to "dairy."
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Postby Brototh » Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:08 pm

Morover wrote:Jack Smith.

"I support this endeavor in principle. I think there is a challenge in the definition for 'yogurt', in trying to utilize all the linguistic variations of it right away - I think it could be better phrased as 'Yogurt and any linguistic and spelling variations thereof as a milk product...' I will forward this proposal to the rest of the Morovian delegation and get back to you with more feedback later."
IC: A well appreciated thought, we concur. The change will be made post haste- if the Morovian delegation has any further comments on it, we will be glad to hear them and change it further if we agree.
Xernon wrote:If I may, I want to compliment the madam representative from the Kingdom of Brototh on a very well written resolution and an even better topic of choice. Though the liberal establishment may wish to distract us from this topic while they line their pockets with the profits they gain from selling thickened milk as yogurt, it is exciting and refreshing to see a resolution dealing with this all pertinent issue.

If I was to offer any feedback on the resolution, it would only be to recommend changing the word "dairty" in the first clause to "dairy."

IC: And as similar to this- we thank for both the support and the correction to our unfortunate spelling mistake. The change will, too, be made.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:11 pm

Ambassador Tav: Could you clarify and define what the unit of measure "centipoise" means and also why the ideal measurements for yogurt and cheese are as such?
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Postby Mancheseva City » Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:15 pm

Re:category - I only really see one that it could fit, and that's Regulation: Mild. Obviously I support this though might give actual feedback later
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Outer Sparta wrote:Ambassador Tav: Could you clarify and define what the unit of measure "centipoise" means and also why the ideal measurements for yogurt and cheese are as such?

Jack Smith.

"I'm no physicist - I leave that to people with degrees in Physics - but I've done a bit of brief research and it appears to be a pretty well-accepted unit for viscosity, with one Poise being equivalent to about one kilogram divided by the product of one-tenth of a second and a meter. In other words, a singular Newton multiplied by a second, divided by a meter squared. Straightforward enough, I think."
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Morover wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Ambassador Tav: Could you clarify and define what the unit of measure "centipoise" means and also why the ideal measurements for yogurt and cheese are as such?

Jack Smith.

"I'm no physicist - I leave that to people with degrees in Physics - but I've done a bit of brief research and it appears to be a pretty well-accepted unit for viscosity, with one Poise being equivalent to about one kilogram divided by the product of one-tenth of a second and a meter. In other words, a singular Newton multiplied by a second, divided by a meter squared. Straightforward enough, I think."

Ambassador Tav: I have to ask my physics whizzes for more clarity, but that makes rather sense. From a first look, I could tell it's a unit of viscosity but just don't know what the exact measurements entail.
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Outer Sparta wrote:
Morover wrote:Jack Smith.

"I'm no physicist - I leave that to people with degrees in Physics - but I've done a bit of brief research and it appears to be a pretty well-accepted unit for viscosity, with one Poise being equivalent to about one kilogram divided by the product of one-tenth of a second and a meter. In other words, a singular Newton multiplied by a second, divided by a meter squared. Straightforward enough, I think."

Ambassador Tav: I have to ask my physics whizzes for more clarity, but that makes rather sense. From a first look, I could tell it's a unit of viscosity but just don't know what the exact measurements entail.

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"I can understand from a legislative standpoint why a definition may be preferred - my issue, though, is that it is difficult to get a satisfactory definition without using words that they themselves need a definition. As my good friend Mr. Smith pointed out, there is a system for calculating Poise; however, in that definition, it refers to kilograms - what is a kilogram, then? It is the mass of one liter of water - but what is a liter? It is equal to a thousand cubic centimeters - but what is a centimeter? The rabbit hole can extend on. I know that some things seem self-explanatory, like the kilogram, but simply being more commonly known is not necessarily indicative of something needing a definition - Poise is an unambiguous word, even if laypeople do not know it."
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:44 pm

Brototh wrote:...Yogurt and any linguistic and spelling variations thereof as a milk product obtained by the fermentation of milk-specific micro-organisms, and which shall have an approximate viscosity between 147 centipoise and 159 centipoise,


"Ambassador, I find this scale quite alarming. Every reference chart my staff has uncovered shows maple syrup at above 150 centipoise, and some list it at up to three thousand! If CYA-approved yogurt is runny enough to top out at a mere hundred and fifty-nine, you may as well mandate that it be sold with a straw. I'm afraid we can't support this proposal until these numbers are recalibrated."
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If this makes it to the floor, I'll be introducing cheese and wine regional branding drafts I reckon for rakija or roncal cheese should only be from specific places and anything else is brandy and sheep milk cheeses respectively.
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Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
Brototh wrote:...Yogurt and any linguistic and spelling variations thereof as a milk product obtained by the fermentation of milk-specific micro-organisms, and which shall have an approximate viscosity between 147 centipoise and 159 centipoise,


"Ambassador, I find this scale quite alarming. Every reference chart my staff has uncovered shows maple syrup at above 150 centipoise, and some list it at up to three thousand! If CYA-approved yogurt is runny enough to top out at a mere hundred and fifty-nine, you may as well mandate that it be sold with a straw. I'm afraid we can't support this proposal until these numbers are recalibrated."

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“My understanding of it, ambassador, is that the lower the viscosity, the thicker it is.”
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The Serbian Empire wrote:If this makes it to the floor, I'll be introducing cheese and wine regional branding drafts I reckon for rakija or roncal cheese should only be from specific places and anything else is brandy and sheep milk cheeses respectively.

OOC: Something like an intangible cultural heritage body focused on promoting and cataloguing traditional food and drink would be neat.
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Hulldom wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:If this makes it to the floor, I'll be introducing cheese and wine regional branding drafts I reckon for rakija or roncal cheese should only be from specific places and anything else is brandy and sheep milk cheeses respectively.

OOC: Something like an intangible cultural heritage body focused on promoting and cataloguing traditional food and drink would be neat.

The inspiration is seeing how there's three different Basque sheep cheeses and one of them is a registered one that only comes from a small river valley near the Aragon border with only 8 small villages for example. Others would have much larger regions and even subtypes like Sljivovica rakija which only allows the use of Damson plums while there's imitations that exist made of prune juice fermented.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:23 pm

This proposal would probably fit under Regulation-Consumer Protection (From the GA Proposal Compendium: "Consumer Protection: Increasing consumer rights, product standards, accurate labeling, and legal recourse for consumer David against the corporate Goliath.". I underlined the part of the description that I think is relevant, as regulating yogurt viscosity would be setting standards on yogurt production (It even says "regulation" in the title!).).
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:32 pm

Morover wrote:
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
"Ambassador, I find this scale quite alarming. Every reference chart my staff has uncovered shows maple syrup at above 150 centipoise, and some list it at up to three thousand! If CYA-approved yogurt is runny enough to top out at a mere hundred and fifty-nine, you may as well mandate that it be sold with a straw. I'm afraid we can't support this proposal until these numbers are recalibrated."

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“My understanding of it, ambassador, is that the lower the viscosity, the thicker it is.”


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