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Seems fair

Postby Deutsche Royalisten » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:14 pm

14,000 Nations, instantly destroying nations with bots?


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Postby Life empire » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:16 pm

when launching nukes they ge destroyed at inhuman levels of speed so either somene is no lifing n-day or there is a bot

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Postby Sincluda » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:16 pm

Pretty sure they're puppets not bots but uh

welcome to the puppet meta
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Postby Deutsche Royalisten » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:18 pm

Life empire wrote:when launching nukes they ge destroyed at inhuman levels of speed so either somene is no lifing n-day or there is a bot


Yeah- we launched some nukes back and they got destroyed the next tick. Plus a lot of their nations are just named [Name] 1-500.
So, it's pretty obvious there's some botting going on.
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Postby Yaak » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:18 pm

You're saying that a global radiation catastrophe of nukes, commies and reprogrammed card farming bots is fair?

Very fair.

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Postby Sincluda » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:20 pm

Deutsche Royalisten wrote:
Life empire wrote:when launching nukes they ge destroyed at inhuman levels of speed so either somene is no lifing n-day or there is a bot


Yeah- we launched some nukes back and they got destroyed the next tick. Plus a lot of their nations are just named [Name] 1-1000.
So, it's pretty obvious there's some botting going on.

Yeah, like people don't number their puppets because they have hundreds and need to keep track of them.

IDK how an N-Day bot would work. Definitely puppets.
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Postby Kyruevian Outskirts » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:21 pm

Life empire wrote:when launching nukes they ge destroyed at inhuman levels of speed so either somene is no lifing n-day or there is a bot


I think bots are prevented from joining factions because a Captcha has to be taken first before a nation can join. So yeah, pretty much just people logging into a bunch of puppets lol.

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Postby Deutsche Royalisten » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:22 pm

Kyruevian Outskirts wrote:
Life empire wrote:when launching nukes they ge destroyed at inhuman levels of speed so either somene is no lifing n-day or there is a bot


I think bots are prevented from joining factions because a Captcha has to be taken first before a nation can join. So yeah, pretty much just people logging into a bunch of puppets lol.


I never got asked a ReCaptcha.

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Postby Lohamrittika » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:24 pm

Deutsche Royalisten wrote:
Life empire wrote:when launching nukes they ge destroyed at inhuman levels of speed so either somene is no lifing n-day or there is a bot


Yeah- we launched some nukes back and they got destroyed the next tick. Plus a lot of their nations are just named [Name] 1-500.
So, it's pretty obvious there's some botting going on.


And they all have the default flag, suspiciously

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Postby Life empire » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:25 pm

Kyruevian Outskirts wrote:
Life empire wrote:when launching nukes they ge destroyed at inhuman levels of speed so either somene is no lifing n-day or there is a bot


I think bots are prevented from joining factions because a Captcha has to be taken first before a nation can join. So yeah, pretty much just people logging into a bunch of puppets lol.

just enter manually and the let the bot do the rest

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Postby Deutsche Royalisten » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:28 pm

Sincluda wrote:
Deutsche Royalisten wrote:
Yeah- we launched some nukes back and they got destroyed the next tick. Plus a lot of their nations are just named [Name] 1-1000.
So, it's pretty obvious there's some botting going on.

Yeah, like people don't number their puppets because they have hundreds and need to keep track of them.

IDK how an N-Day bot would work. Definitely puppets.



:blink: The same way their Card farming bots would work... It just interacts with the elements on the web-page? You can code a simple like 100 line bot in maybe an hour to do that. It also doesn't help, that there's no ReCaptcha, and you don't even need to assign an email-address to an account. I could make 1000 accounts in the next hour, without rate-limitation, or verification, and then add them to my faction to prolong its existence.

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Postby Life empire » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:28 pm

atleast z-day should be more difficult to ruin this way

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Postby North American Imperial State » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:29 pm

They probably are bots, we got nuked by the same alts twice in less than 2 hours, and it was a whole bunch of them too unless someone is just sweating to death right now, they are definitely bots
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Postby Sincluda » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:29 pm

Lohamrittika wrote:
Deutsche Royalisten wrote:
Yeah- we launched some nukes back and they got destroyed the next tick. Plus a lot of their nations are just named [Name] 1-500.
So, it's pretty obvious there's some botting going on.


And they all have the default flag, suspiciously

? Because some don't care to decorate their puppets and want to make them as fast as possible ?
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Postby Neo Centrosia » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:29 pm

Life empire wrote:atleast z-day should be more difficult to ruin this way


Z-Day, luckily, can't really be ruined because even if a bot wipes you out with zombies, you can still play as a zombie nation.
With N-Day, a bot can just knock you out of the event within the first hour or two.

Really looking forward to seeing the stats for this year, honestly.

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Postby Central Line 2 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:30 pm

North American Imperial State wrote:They probably are bots, we got nuked by the same alts twice in less than 2 hours, and it was a whole bunch of them too unless someone is just sweating to death right now, they are definitely bots

We're having fun <3

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Postby North American Imperial State » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:32 pm

Central Line 2 wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:They probably are bots, we got nuked by the same alts twice in less than 2 hours, and it was a whole bunch of them too unless someone is just sweating to death right now, they are definitely bots

We're having fun <3

ofc you are, because you aren't being nuked to death and the enjoyment of something you waited for a year killed
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Postby The Hazar Amisnery » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:32 pm

My faction got leveled by puppets and bots. Either someones written an auto-nuking bot or they just have quick hands.
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Postby Vikanias » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:32 pm

Central Line 2 wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:They probably are bots, we got nuked by the same alts twice in less than 2 hours, and it was a whole bunch of them too unless someone is just sweating to death right now, they are definitely bots

We're having fun <3


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Postby Lirum-Arixo » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:34 pm

I'm not going to talk about what I think is fair or not, but I can safely say that this is the most boring event i've ever seen in any game i've ever played.

But hey, what do I know? I guess a lot of people just like seal clubbing and not taking any risks whatsoever.
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Postby North American Imperial State » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:34 pm

We could try uniting the smaller factions into one larger faction and then trying to beat them with whatever alts we have left (Exaclty what i am trying to do with IOC's allied regions but on a larger scale)
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Postby Neo Centrosia » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:36 pm

Sincluda wrote:
Lohamrittika wrote:
And they all have the default flag, suspiciously

? Because some don't care to decorate their puppets and want to make them as fast as possible ?


They are definitely bots. They are responding with multiple accounts with a less than 1 minute response time, so unless they're sitting at their keyboard coordinating over 1,000 accounts at once, then I see no way they couldn't be bots.

At that point, you're beyond a single person running puppet nations. You're either using bots, or you've hired out an entire firm in India to run your puppet nations.

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Postby Havenburghe » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:37 pm

Honestly this is why I didn't join. Not worth it.

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Postby Deutsche Royalisten » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:38 pm

Havenburghe wrote:Honestly this is why I didn't join. Not worth it.

:rofl: Truer words haven't been spoken

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Postby Vikanias » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:41 pm

Honestly the super factions just sucked the fun out of the event for me, I was pumped for N-day since it was my first one, but it ended up as people using bots to nuke all the smaller factions to oblivion and parading themselves as good.
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