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[DRAFT] Is this the Matrix?

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[DRAFT] Is this the Matrix?

Postby Lavlakeland » Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:55 pm

[desc] A group of crackpot conspirators sand moviegoing citizens have all come into your office stating that the world we live in is a lie, and is really just a "country" in a website called "Nationstates".

[validity] Not valid in nations with no internet.

[option1] “Can't you see it, @@LEADER@@? This world is a lie, we're in a matrix!” Says @@RANDOMNAME@@, a crackpot conspirator. “Not only that, since the servers aren't working, that means this world is going to end!”

[result] The nation is massively upgrading its internet speed in order to save the planet.

[option2] “It's not only that, today is Judgement Day! God knows that we have discovered the fact our lives are a lie!” Vehemently states @@RANDOMNAME@@, a person who has predicted the end of the world 15 times yet still the world hasn't ended. “Believe me this time, the world really is ending! You still have time to repent!”

[option3] “I can't believe these conspiracy theory believers are saying this!” States @@RANDOMNAME@@, a party-pooping scientist. “Instead of believing this, why don't we instead boost our education budget and spread mass awareness campaigns in order to make these people a little smarter.”

[result] Anything that is even slightly false is immediately debunked.

[option4] After breaking into your office by blowing up a wall in your office, a host of the show FallacyBreakers presents another solution. “How about we see if it's true, this time with no explosives since our broadcaster are a bunch of wussies, why don't we shut down the internet and see if the world ends. If it doesn't, fallacy, broken.”

[result] The population colloquially refers to periods where the government shuts down the internet to debunk something as "Internet maintenance time".
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Postby Kors » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:16 pm

This is actually a well thought out issue.
Need to improve it though.
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Postby Vient » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:19 pm

This is very good

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Postby Random Country 453632 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:54 pm

Great easter egg candidate, although another easter egg issue exists with Nationstates involved, "Breaking the fourth wall of NationStates"
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Postby Daarwyrth » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:12 am

[desc] A group of crackpot conspirators sand moviegoing citizens have all come into your office stating that the world we live in is a lie, and is really just a "country" in a website called "Nationstates".

This is an odd premise to go for, I fear. I'm not sure why the national government should concern itself with an issue like this. It feels like something that philosophers should deal with, not @@LEADER@@. I would recommend that you pursue a different issue premise with a slightly more relevant topic for a national leader to deal with :) also, I would advise not to write issue drafts with "I want to draft this as an easter egg issue" in mind.

[option1] “Can't you see it, @@LEADER@@? This world is a lie, we're in a matrix!” Says @@RANDOMNAME@@, a crackpot conspirator. “Not only that, since the servers aren't working, that means this world is going to end!”

How would the speaker in this option know that the servers aren't working? I don't think that makes a lot of sense, to be honest. Also, the text doesn't provide an option to choose, it simply ends with a statement. What is @@LEADER@@ supposed to do with this? The choice doesn't provide an answer to that.

[result] The nation is massively upgrading its internet speed in order to save the planet.

If the nation is in the simulation, how is upgrading their internet speed going to save them? This doesn't make sense, I'm afraid. The server outside of the simulation would have to be upgraded to save anything, but since the nation is in the simulation according to your idea, then they won't be able to do anything.

[option4] After breaking into your office by blowing up a wall in your office, a host of the show FallacyBreakers presents another solution. “How about we see if it's true, this time with no explosives since our broadcaster are a bunch of wussies, why don't we shut down the internet and see if the world ends. If it doesn't, fallacy, broken.”

[result] The population colloquially refers to periods where the government shuts down the internet to debunk something as "Internet maintenance time".

This has the same problem as I described in the remark above this one. If nation is in the simulation, then they can't influence what is happening to the simulation, as they would have to get outside of it. Shutting down the internet won't do anything, as it would have to be the internet outside of the simulation to have any affect on the simulation.

I am sorry if my commentary sounds very negative, but I don't think this is a good issue idea and the execution does have many problems. Yet don't let this discourage you from writing another issue draft! If this is the first time you drafted an issue, I would recommend that you try a slightly less abstract and less difficult idea, and try something else for your first issue submission :)
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:12 pm

Option 4- you're shutting down the simulation's internal internet, not the external internet, so how would that help? I mean, what would have they done pre-internet?
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Postby Terrabod » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:27 am

As Daarwyrth has already mentioned, this looks to be an issue for academics to discuss, debate and fall out over - not one that should concern the nation's leader or influence policy. Even if you try to pass this off as an issue about nuisance conspiracy theorists, that topic has already been covered in the roster of existing issues and I don't see this draft as adding anything new there.
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Postby Prusmia » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:34 am

Lavlakeland wrote:[desc] A group of crackpot conspirators sand moviegoing citizens have all come into your office stating that the world we live in is a lie, and is really just a "country" in a website called "Nationstates".

[validity] Not valid in nations with no internet.

[option1] “Can't you see it, @@LEADER@@? This world is a lie, we're in a matrix!” Says @@RANDOMNAME@@, a crackpot conspirator. “Not only that, since the servers aren't working, that means this world is going to end!”

[result] The nation is massively upgrading its internet speed in order to save the planet.

[option2] “It's not only that, today is Judgement Day! God knows that we have discovered the fact our lives are a lie!” Vehemently states @@RANDOMNAME@@, a person who has predicted the end of the world 15 times yet still the world hasn't ended. “Believe me this time, the world really is ending! You still have time to repent!” Atheism Policy

[option3] “I can't believe these conspiracy theory believers are saying this!” States @@RANDOMNAME@@, a party-pooping scientist. “Instead of believing this, why don't we instead boost our education budget and spread mass awareness campaigns in order to make these people a little smarter.”

[result] Anything that is even slightly false is immediately debunked.

[option4] After breaking into your office by blowing up a wall in your office, a host of the show FallacyBreakers presents another solution. “How about we see if it's true, this time with no explosives since our broadcaster's are a bunch of wussies, why don't we shut down the internet and see if the world ends. If it doesn't, fallacy, broken.”

[result] The population colloquially refers to periods where the government shuts down the internet to debunk something as "Internet maintenance time".
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