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YL's Opinion of AN's Military

Postby Mirum » Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:03 am

I don't believe this has been done before, so I decided to do it. This thread is inspired by two other threads:

Your Leader's Opinion on AN's Leader
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How YN Soldiers feel about fighting the AN Soldiers

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YL (Your nation's Leader) reviews AN's (Above Nation's) military, assuming they have been given all the information about it (meaning everything in the factbooks, secret and not secret). YL then states their opinion on AN's military. To demonstrate this, I will start. The AN for this post will be my puppet nation of Drecha.



"To be honest, it is a decently-organized military. Tons of soldiers, moderately decent equipment, excellent discipline. The superweapons are quite interesting, but confuse me. They are supposed to be used in conquest, yet most have the ability to wipe out life on all worlds- which is terrible from a moral standpoint- and defeats the entire point of conquest from a strategic standpoint. All of this is being said from my usual neutral standpoint on things. I have my own opinions on the leadership of the nation in question, but that is a statement for a different time."

-President Lyra Elmspirit


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Postby Dyrrhonian Isles » Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:56 pm

My opinion is based on the following:

1. That the ordinary soldier is a destroyer of the highest order, deserving of the medals the Emperor gives them, and that they stop at nothing to achieve victory.

2. They use the latest equipment to achive their ends, and that the elite corps have more than just that. Their methods have been brutal and effective, and the results speak for themselves. In almost exactly seven years, Germania beat their adversaries to submission and took over Dacia, Legadonia, and the former Francois Republic.
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Postby Mirum » Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:12 pm

"I don't see much information that is available to me other than the tactics, however from what I can tell, their military is well-trained. Small unit tactics are always favorable to a smaller nation's military- and to bigger ones as well- so that is definitely a good thing. The military of the Dyrrhonian Isles also seems to be well adapted to desert warfare, having gone so far as to actually create a specialized unit for desert warfare. One problem with the Dyrrhonian military would have to be their dependency on their vehicles, as reliance on vehicles creates a flaw that is easily exploited. Ambushes and urban warfare is an acceptable strategy for defense, especially when you are outnumbered, but such strategies are also prone to backfire, and when that happens, you know it is going to be a bad day. Overall, the military of the Dyrrhonian Isles suits their size, however, investment in more long-range weapons such as artillery and missiles really pays off, and so does investments in the infantry. Call it bias if you want, but that's my opinion, and that's final."

-President Lyra Elmspirit


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/Bump.
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Postby Russiania » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:33 am

They lack the experience and skills brought about by continuous war, and they are rather small and not the best equipped.

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Postby Mirum » Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:53 pm

"The military of the Victoran Empire seems to be quite the powerful fighting force. Their numbers are quite impressive, from what they state, their army and navy are innumerably large and their special forces number in the millions. This is already a force to be reckoned with, even for one of their tech level. I will not go into specifics, as their is much to discuss, but their special forces are probably the most terrifying thing about them, besides the superweapons of course. Add time-travel to this, and you have a fighting force that will always win a war, no matter how difficult or impossible it may seem. I am very impressed, and offer my approval to their military, except at the time-travel stuff, as that always gives me a massive headache whenever I try to think about it. Now, if you will please excuse me, I am going to lie down now and drink some water to get rid of this headache I have just acquired."

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Postby Bigpipstan » Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:34 am

"A well organized military with a stunning number of missiles. The amount of personal enlisted is high when taking their population into account. Their number of nuclear missiles is worrying, hopefully their armed forces are a force for peace and not for destruction. While their army has battle mages, they don't seem to be on the same level that our battle mages are.
Overall their military has my approval."

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Postby Azur Deutschland » Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:42 pm

"It's a haphazard, slipshod military. Nothing is domestic. They don't even have any sort of ground armored vehicles, at least, none that are tanks. Other equipment seems standard, from the information that I can see. Airships though... As in, zeppelins or something more modern, like bombers? As for other things, they can use magic, would be terrifying for other nations that don't or can't use magic.

Wait... They...
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Postby Fenvaria Republic » Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:07 am

"They seem to be quite the professional and hardened military force that one would expect from a global war, taking the new ideas/technologies from the war and exploiting them as best as possible. While they might have the technology like the Empire, their expanded and well defined use of the magi-arts is cause for concern. The magi-arts will always be terrifying for any soldier who accustomed to them since they as how can one being hold such tremendous power within their own bodies? For soldiers who aren't accustomed to the magi-arts, they must seem like...what is the term the humans use? Ah right, like a "Fist of God", ready to deliver what seems divine punishment across the battlefield for those who dared to face off against the magi. Typically, one would expect the magi arts to be limited to ground combat, but instead Azur Deutschland has expanded it to other areas of warfare like air and sea."
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Postby Mirum » Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:56 pm

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Postby Comerciante » Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:20 pm

"Alright. I have my cup of Hot Cocoa and I have my marshmallows, and I also have little else to do today, because the Leader Thread keeps moving too quick for me to write something up!

Let me get a look at that file yes?

First of all, there's a lot to cover here and I don't want to waste too much time so as I go through them this report is going to focus on a few points that I feel are worth expounding upon instead of trying to give an essay long overview of every little detail.

the Army prefers to engage in protracted trench warfare while on the ground.


This is something I don't quite understand, with the evolution of artillery, orbital bombardment, tanks, personnel firepower, guided missiles, chemical weapons, surveillance technology, logistics, transportation, and a bunch of other shit, I don't understand the wisdom of static defensive networks, especially in an era of space exploration.

I've gone through a lot of your files expecting some reference to maybe shield generators but it appears only your warships exclusively feature them which means you have to rely on everything from interception to electronic countermeasures... which can work but only a fraction of enemies orbital assets ever really need to make it through the atmosphere to make everyone regret existing from my experience.

This doesn't really jive when a majority of your infantry are wearing lightweight but durable armor. I'd figure you would approach combat with a more aggressive style of combat especially considering how robust morale is among your ranks.

Over-reliance on kinetics: The Navy features no other weapons aside from kinetic-based weapons, this leaves them vulnerable to navies who have armor resistant to kinetic-based weapons.


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It's the natural state of everything that is born. Although it can be a bit more complex than that. Nothing is truly "blank" so to speak. How an AI learns and what lessons it takes from its environment all have to have a basis from something. You can try and teach a baby cat to read, it doesn't mean it'll start quoting Shakespeare.

It's why in a large part of fiction when building sapient AI we take our own design as a point of reference. It's also could say something about us that so much fiction features them almost immediately decided to wipe us out...

All of them are formally selected based on proven merit or intelligence, instead of wealth or family status.


There's something to be said that nominally having access to both status and wealth can lead to the acquisition of both. I don't have time to give a look at your social welfare programs although Empires can be both progressive and regressive in equal measure, I highly doubt that the lowest members of society will be able to acquire the same level of training and information that someone higher up would,

Imperial rations tend to be long lasting, bland, and edible; decently well-liked by troops but hey, it keeps them fed

decently well-liked by troops


Now I know this is propaganda.

There's more to be said but I think I've set a good start to this examination, so I'm going to stop here for the day. Talk more if we come across each other another time.

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Postby Kors » Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:17 pm

They are 500 years ahead of me so I can't imagine their weaponization
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Postby Aerlanica » Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:24 pm

"Twenty men? just twenty men? well...this is certainly...I almost feel sorry for them; a state with no military is like a wolf in the woods with no gun. Well, at least there's that Germany fellow around them...then again...there is that Germany fellow around them."

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Postby Mirum » Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:47 pm

"Okay. Here I go again. This time, let's see... the Military of Aerlanica. Well. That's interesting. This 'Harold Vance' person seems to have some valuable insight on many things, including the Aerlanican Military. Mr. Vance states that they- and I quote- 'are trained intensively to act as a whole, and to operate with near perfect coordination, while being trained to be masters in attritional warfare, rapid movements and the concept of Lightning War'. Coordination and teamwork are quite valuable for infantry, as well as attritional warfare, and striking fast and hard. The Aerlanican Military is also battle-hardened, which is good, as experience is ten times better than just training alons. Their military also contains some supposedly high-quality tacticians, making it even harder to defeat. Their secretive projects are also quite extensive, focusing on almost everything, from cyberwarfare- which we are somewhat lacking in defenses, I'll admit- to protection. I won't say more on that on the risk of accidentally exposing a major secret, but their military is quite powerful. I think I have covered everything that I dare to, so I guess that's it for now."

-President Lyra Elmspirit


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Postby Mirum » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:11 pm

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Postby ENZONAR » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:15 pm

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Postby Neo-Western East Korea » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:20 pm

I... must admit I’m not that impressed? 1.6 billion people sounds large, but he’s made no mention of actually arming or clothing them, so I must assume outside of their leader, it’s just a massed human wave. That’s not a sustainable tactic in the long run, especially when chemicals or nuclear weapons are involved.
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Postby ENZONAR » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:26 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:I... must admit I’m not that impressed? 1.6 billion people sounds large, but he’s made no mention of actually arming or clothing them, so I must assume outside of their leader, it’s just a massed human wave. That’s not a sustainable tactic in the long run, especially when chemicals or nuclear weapons are involved.
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Enzo's Futuristic Machine without actually mentioning if their infantry moment
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Postby Aerlanica » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:21 pm

“They are a hodgepodge of random weaponry either scavenged or produced. Honestly the infantry is numerically impressive, however they seem to be a little…well…disorganised. Especially in regards to that debacle with the whole nuclear crocodiles. Honestly, the Aerlanican Army if they were to clash against these fine fellows would probably have to rely on the space navy to make engagements go from stalemates to successes.”

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Postby Reich of the New World Order » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:38 pm

For a nation that is becoming a living hell their secret projects are definitely interesting.Especially Project Bluescreen, a sentient malware would be a powerful weapon. Although i would recommend focusing on more conventional means of waging war. I do not blame them for wanting a miracle,luckily for them Reich Corp is willing to give them a miracle for a price of course.
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