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Condemn J o J

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Condemn J o J

Postby Popolojo » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:26 pm

The Security Council:

Recognizing the region of J o J, an invader region determined to preserve conservative values, often by force,

Noting J o J's rampant imperialism and invasions of many regions, including 254 currently controlled regions,

Noting the 6 J o J-occupied regions deleted by moderators due to global violations,

Hoping that this condemnation will inform the international community about the danger concerning J o J,

Hereby condemns J o J.

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Postby Lettucehead » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:35 pm

Popolojo wrote:The Security Council:

Recognizing the region of J o J, an invader region determined to preserve conservative values, often by force,

Noting J o J's rampant imperialism and invasions of many regions, including 254 currently controlled regions,

Noting the 6 J o J-occupied regions deleted by moderators due to global violations,

Hoping that this condemnation will inform the international community about the danger concerning J o J,

Hereby condemns J o J.

You can't have moderation mentioned in WA proposals.
All WA proposals should be IC.

Also all sentence starters should be different
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Postby Sincluda » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:38 pm

Lettucehead wrote:
Popolojo wrote:The Security Council:

Recognizing the region of J o J, an invader region determined to preserve conservative values, often by force,

Noting J o J's rampant imperialism and invasions of many regions, including 254 currently controlled regions,

Noting the 6 J o J-occupied regions deleted by moderators due to global violations,

Hoping that this condemnation will inform the international community about the danger concerning J o J,

Hereby condemns J o J.

You can't have moderation mentioned in WA proposals.
All WA proposals should be IC.

Also all sentence starters should be different

OOC: Moderation can’t be mentioned, yes, but it doesn’t matter for the sentence starters. Absolutely no rules on that.
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Postby Lettucehead » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:58 pm

Sincluda wrote:
Lettucehead wrote:You can't have moderation mentioned in WA proposals.
All WA proposals should be IC.

Also all sentence starters should be different

OOC: Moderation can’t be mentioned, yes, but it doesn’t matter for the sentence starters. Absolutely no rules on that.

Well it is less messy and increases clarity. If you note 2 things, you should put it in a sentence together.

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Postby Abacathea » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:09 pm

Lettucehead wrote:
Sincluda wrote:OOC: Moderation can’t be mentioned, yes, but it doesn’t matter for the sentence starters. Absolutely no rules on that.

Well it is less messy and increases clarity. If you note 2 things, you should put it in a sentence together.


More a stylization than a requirement i thought
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Postby Giovanniland » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:31 pm

Opposed. Firstly, while perhaps notable, I wouldn't say that the feats listed rise to the point of other raider region condemnations. Secondly, as condemnations are seen as badges of honor nowadays, I don't think we should give one to a region that is publicly listed as supporting hateful ideologies.
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Postby Comfed » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:33 pm

All J o J does is snipe region names and pretends like it’s a great victory. Not even remotely condemnable.
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Postby Parkiant » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:36 pm

Popolojo wrote:The Security Council:

Recognizing the region of J o J, an invader region determined to preserve conservative values, often by force,

Noting J o J's rampant imperialism and invasions of many regions, including 254 currently controlled regions,

Noting the 6 J o J-occupied regions deleted by moderators due to global violations,

Hoping that this condemnation will inform the international community about the danger concerning J o J,

Hereby condemns J o J.

Just this?

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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:56 pm

Not a condemnable nominee.
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Postby Pet Theen » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:03 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Not a condemnable nominee.

As I know he caused some problems to TSP.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:05 pm

Pet Theen wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Not a condemnable nominee.

As I know he caused some problems to TSP.

Overall, not condemnable. Plus, their actions only seemed to just get negative attention and be a thorn instead of doing any actual raiding like TBH. Also, the proposal is not well-written and contains something illegal, which the author is oblivious to.
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Postby Wayneactia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:14 pm

Please elaborate on these so called JOJ invasions?
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Postby Parkiant » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:15 pm

Wayneactia wrote:Please elaborate on these so called JOJ invasions?

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Postby Thousand Branches » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:05 pm

You're pretty new to the Security Council forum! Let me start by saying welcome, this is a really wonderful place to get good sources for how to write a good SC resolution, get feedback from a bunch of really smart folks, and there's even a place for ideas for resolutions in case you're looking for a good place to start!

For this resolution, I have a couple of suggestions regarding wording and the such!

Popolojo wrote:Recognizingthe region of J o J, an invader region determined to preserve conservative values, often by force,

You might say "excessive force" rather than just force. It adds both a better description, and a more heightened sense of urgency for this condemn. Honestly you could probably spice up this whole clause ("an insidious invader region", "preserve its own boorish conservative values", etc)

Popolojo wrote:Noting J o J's rampant imperialism and invasions of many regions, including 254 currently controlled regions,

I would change this to something like "Noting J o J's history of rampant imperialism and invasion, as shown by their 254 currently controlled regions," Small change but it definitely helps this clause flow better. Also note that this clause presents a pretty similar argument to the first clause, so maybe find a way to make the two separate arguments for a condemnation.

Popolojo wrote:Noting the 6 J o J-occupied regions deleted by moderators due to global violations,

Change "noting" to a different word such as "Appalled by" or "citing" or "instancing". Also this is a rule violation as some people have mentioned, but you could definitely spin it in an IC way.

Popolojo wrote:Hoping that this condemnation will inform the international community about the danger concerning J o J,

This needs more spice! You're not trying to inform, you're trying to persuade people to believe in the horrors of this region!
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Postby Goobergunchia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:19 pm

Thousand Branches wrote:
Popolojo wrote:Noting the 6 J o J-occupied regions deleted by moderators due to global violations,

Change "noting" to a different word such as "Appalled by" or "citing" or "instancing". Also this is a rule violation as some people have mentioned, but you could definitely spin it in an IC way.


As a quick follow-up to this advice: Popolojo, pursuant to Rule 3c, please request Moderator review of the amended language (if you wish to reference the deletions) before submitting a final proposal. (The existing language is, as noted, illegal.)

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:57 am

While your draft is illegal and not very good at least you drafted here first so bonus points for that.
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Postby Team Lennox » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:27 am

Ayo J o J my ally and he don't even do nothing wrong!
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Postby Team Lennox » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:31 am

Giovanniland wrote:Opposed. Firstly, while perhaps notable, I wouldn't say that the feats listed rise to the point of other raider region condemnations. Secondly, as condemnations are seen as badges of honor nowadays, I don't think we should give one to a region that is publicly listed as supporting hateful ideologies.

Yes J o J did ally himself up with Nazis and Fascists, but since Marchish-Aprilish (I think) he started closing ties with hateful regions. Gio ppl can change yk dat. Just sayin'. J o J is just a chill guy trying to have a nice time on NS now.
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  • A teenager doing teenage stuff (I guess)
  • A leftist (remind me to make a dispatch on my beliefs later)
  • A Christian with usually fundamentalists views (except for on the Patriarchist, (Bible wasn't a big thing on Gender equity) and LGBTQ+ rights, (Bible wasn't a big thing on that either) (Also the Mosaic law doesn't let us eat things like bacon and ham since in the Bible pigs are unclean animals. Like how am I to survive not eating bacon! >:( )





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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:26 am

Team Lennox wrote:Ayo J o J my ally and he don't even do nothing wrong!

Return of the Grammar Terminator.

Is there any nation that isn’t an ally of yours?
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

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Postby Abacathea » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:06 am

Team Lennox wrote:Ayo J o J my ally and he don't even do nothing wrong!


sniffs

Smell o' Troll off of this one...
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Postby Northern Connecticut » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:08 am

SO conservative raiding is not allowed anymore? While the MT army and Antifa and the Red Fleet can do whatever the f they want? Hell no. And also the part about mods is illegal.
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Postby Wayneactia » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:52 am

Northern Connecticut wrote:SO conservative raiding is not allowed anymore? While the MT army and Antifa and the Red Fleet can do whatever the f they want? Hell no. And also the part about mods is illegal.

JOJ wouldn’t know how to raid, even with a guided tour on how to raid. They redound old regions and claim manufactured victories. They are far more annoying than condemnable.
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Postby Team Lennox » Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:40 pm

Abacathea wrote:
Team Lennox wrote:Ayo J o J my ally and he don't even do nothing wrong!


sniffs

Smell o' Troll off of this one...

i aint no troll!
Northern Connecticut wrote:SO conservative raiding is not allowed anymore? While the MT army and Antifa and the Red Fleet can do whatever the f they want? Hell no. And also the part about mods is illegal.

the fact you have a blue lives matter aint makin' u get no good look.
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Northern Connecticut wrote:SO conservative raiding is not allowed anymore? While the MT army and Antifa and the Red Fleet can do whatever the f they want? Hell no. And also the part about mods is illegal.

JOJ wouldn’t know how to raid, even with a guided tour on how to raid. They redound old regions and claim manufactured victories. They are far more annoying than condemnable.

actually they would wayne.
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Team Lennox wrote:Ayo J o J my ally and he don't even do nothing wrong!

Return of the Grammar Terminator.

Is there any nation that isn’t an ally of yours?

of course every nation is an ally. Ig dats what happens when ur so pop and stuff. btw don't call me no grammar terminator, i aint do no wrong and ill type whatever i want. ik my grammar aint bad bc u can understand it.
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  • An American born citizen
  • A teenager doing teenage stuff (I guess)
  • A leftist (remind me to make a dispatch on my beliefs later)
  • A Christian with usually fundamentalists views (except for on the Patriarchist, (Bible wasn't a big thing on Gender equity) and LGBTQ+ rights, (Bible wasn't a big thing on that either) (Also the Mosaic law doesn't let us eat things like bacon and ham since in the Bible pigs are unclean animals. Like how am I to survive not eating bacon! >:( )





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Postby Wayneactia » Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:19 pm

Team Lennox wrote:
Abacathea wrote:
sniffs

Smell o' Troll off of this one...

i aint no troll!
Northern Connecticut wrote:SO conservative raiding is not allowed anymore? While the MT army and Antifa and the Red Fleet can do whatever the f they want? Hell no. And also the part about mods is illegal.

the fact you have a blue lives matter aint makin' u get no good look.
Wayneactia wrote:JOJ wouldn’t know how to raid, even with a guided tour on how to raid. They redound old regions and claim manufactured victories. They are far more annoying than condemnable.

actually they would wayne.
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Return of the Grammar Terminator.

Is there any nation that isn’t an ally of yours?

of course every nation is an ally. Ig dats what happens when ur so pop and stuff. btw don't call me no grammar terminator, i aint do no wrong and ill type whatever i want. ik my grammar aint bad bc u can understand it.

Given the fact no one can figure out what the fuck you are trying to say, I suggest everyone consign your comments to the dumpster where they belong.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:23 am

I think we can safely kick this one into touch. The OP has shown no interest in it despite being on since their original posting.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.


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