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Should brothels exist?

Postby Lubeck HSA » Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:01 am

In Europe, Germany, Greece and other countries, prostitution, brothels and pimping are all allowed.But there are also some problems behind it, such as AIDS or other sexually transmitted diseases.
So should it exist?


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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:23 am

Well if you have prostitution you have to fuck somewhere, so yes they should exist.

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Postby Izandai » Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:28 am

Any system where prostitution is legal and regulated would be better (for prostitutes, for their clients, and for society) than the current system.
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Postby Lisander » Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:34 am

Izandai wrote:Any system where prostitution is legal and regulated would be better (for prostitutes, for their clients, and for society) than the current system.


I second it. But I advocate for the further criminalization of "exploration of prostitution", ie "pimps". No one should own the body of any other person when it comes to sexual issues. By developing a system that could, at the same time, be lucrative for the people working on its sector and care to their reproductive health, to avoid the spread of STI, maybe it would be a little-less marginalized profession.
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Postby Hanoverian Great Britain » Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:37 am

I'd wholly agree with the posts above, and about the diseases or stuff, just make it mandatory for all the employed prostitutes to be on medication or whatever, or for the customers to bring condoms or so. If neither conditions are met by either the customer or worker (depends on whether they choose to apply only one of the rules or both), then the ones involved cannot proceed until they comply with the rules
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Postby Nationalist England » Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:40 am

I’m against sexwork, but it’s easier to monitor decriminalised and regulated activity than illegal activity. I see brothels as containment for whoredom rather than a condoning of sex work, so they should ideally exist as such, including ensuring there isn’t an outbreak of STIs. It should then be up to the state to ensure sex work is rightly demonised and the popular culture is against it.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:04 am

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Postby A m e n r i a » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:08 am

Yes, imo prostitution should be decriminalised, but regulated as any other industries. We started a global pandemic, I don't want us to start another.
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Postby New Anarchisticstan » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:14 am

It is okay for them to exist but they should be regulated: proper hygiene standards like contraceptives, good compensation for the workers, psychological help for workers, prevention of rape, sexual assault and blackmailing...
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:16 am

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Postby Nono germani » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:20 am

The New California Republic wrote:OP is wafer thin...

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Postby Werstonal » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:24 am

I think it is more than spreading diseases.

In my opinion, it should exists under heavy regulation. It is far too dangerous for such institution to let loose and to be fully independent. Sex worker could be exploited, forced into prostituting, and others.

If diseases are your main concern; use protection, make medical care accessible and safe for sex worker, decriminalise sex work and above all, put in some effort to destigmatise sex works and sex workers.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:25 am

more brothels = more sex

more sex = more poggers
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Postby Free Metropolitan France » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:27 am

This is one of the confusing questions. Well, I think yes they should exist but cautionary measures should be taken.

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Postby Free Metropolitan France » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:30 am

We have seen in countries where sex and brothels are banned they have high rape rates. For instance, on the Indian sub-continent Sex is a very taboo subject and men are forced to repress their sexual desires and I have seen what happens to them.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:35 am

Nono germani wrote:
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Postby Cetacea » Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:25 am

Small owner-operated brothels are the best approach to regulation of prostitution as they remove the exploitation element of pimps, treat prostitution as a business that pays tax, requires that they follow health & safety and other regulations, allows for better monitoring and removes prostitution from the dangerous streets (and into the pleasant suburbs).

Regardless of morality issues, regulation of the industry is always better than prohibition

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Postby Saiwania » Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:23 am

Pimps wouldn't be needed if it wasn't the case that some customers decide to try to skip out on paying or become abusive towards sex workers. A prostitute ideally, is like a freelancer where they can handle all aspects of their services and can get 100% of the profits, but most aren't quite able to do that.

Prostitutes usually need security of some sort and a brothel can do this if it has security personnel and accomodations, but this typically means paying the brothel a portion of any earnings to cover the expense of maintaining such a place. A brothel usually has the means to throw out customers that break the rules or get unruly enough as to get banned and to keep them out if they've been trespassed before.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:26 am

Saiwania wrote:Pimps wouldn't be needed if it wasn't the case that some customers decide to try to skip out on paying or become abusive towards sex workers.

Tbh a pimp isn't the only guarantor against violence, so we shouldn't act as if it is. Sex workers uniting themselves is a much better measure against that.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:33 am

The New California Republic wrote:Tbh a pimp isn't the only guarantor against violence, so we shouldn't act as if it is. Sex workers uniting themselves is a much better measure against that.


If a working lady is truly a badass and can beat up any man that dares to try to doublecross them, they can do that and be able to have 100% of their earnings. But the point is that most prostitutes aren't or can't handle every situation that might go badly.

They need effective protection and if it isn't a pimp, it'll probably be a brothel that has security guards that can throw someone out. But none of this is free, unless the state or some source of revenue covers the expenses.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:34 am

Saiwania wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Tbh a pimp isn't the only guarantor against violence, so we shouldn't act as if it is. Sex workers uniting themselves is a much better measure against that.


If a working lady is truly a badass and can beat up any man that dares to try to doublecross them, they can do that and be able to have 100% of their earning. But the point is that most prostitutes aren't or can't handle every situation that might go badly. They need effective protection and if it isn't a pimp, it'll probably be a brothel that has security guards that can throw someone out. But none of this is free, unless the state or some source of revenue covers the expenses.

I'm not talking about one, I'm talking about a bunch of them. "Strength in numbers" and all that.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:57 am

Honeydewistania wrote:more brothels = more sex

more sex = more poggers

Can't go wrong with more poggers.


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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:05 am

I've never seen a good argument against them. They reduce crime, reduce spread of disease, boost economies, they even get rid of incels. It's a win for everyone except moralists.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:07 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:I've never seen a good argument against them. They reduce crime, reduce spread of disease, boost economies, they even get rid of incels. It's a win for everyone except moralists.

And given how those so-called moralists have increasingly become pathological sadists over the years, that is not a loss at all.


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