UDAF-PRS Peace Conference (Private RP; Invite Only)

[Meretica]

Hosted on the neutral ground within The New California Kingdom. These talks are being used to avoid war between the Pact of Ribbons and Steel and United Defense Alliance Force. The current deal on the table is this:

-There will be no war between UDAF and PRS or nations within those two organizations unless these terms are violated or this treaty has been successfully in effect for 90 days
-SM will allow the Security Council to be established so that UDAF will be more democratic
-SO will be removed from PRS leadership for 14 days
-Meretica will abstain from running for elected office for 14 days
-Meretica's nuclear arsenal shall be given to Xenick indefinitely
-PRS and UDAF shall both take part in mutual disarmament

Both regions have much more to gain out of this agreement, and the negotiating nations have also come with their personal agendas in addition to their international ones. It is hoped that peace can be achieved and war avoided.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

The Southeast Marajarbian Ministry of Foreign Affairs decides to send Liberal Politician George Collins to the talks, in order to secure a friendly relationship with the PRS, and hopefully assist the PRS in their attempt to avoid being the possible instigators in a massive world war, as well as secure an explanation for the attempt made by the PRS at War.

[Meretica]

Empress Sinestra selects Godfrey Smith, a former Royalist Senator, and contender for an ongoing governor election. Smith has served in politics since the later 1990s. Born in 1972, he has served as a mayor, Senator, and diplomat for many years. He is famous for his compromises, which were often created when he worked with Governor Organa before the Meretican Senate came to an end. Smith has come to remove the clause disqualifying Meretica from running for elections, reemphasize that Meretica was not part of an attempted coup in SM or UDAF, ensure that the clause requiring that UDAF is more democratic remains in the negotiations, and keeping the peace. Meretica, despite falling from its high pedestal, will do anything to maintain the peace.

[Southern Xenick]

Xenicks sends ardent communist and seasoned politicians political Symo Vende to attend the talks. They have much to gain from these talks, and there is nothing to lose on the line. Symos goal is reaching a satisfactory end to hostility, as well as deterring SM from trying to assault the PRS. Symo is unarmed, but it traditionally opposed to SMs form of liberal democracy, but is intent on making Xenick a nation with free elections not scarred by factions from abroad. He also wants to know why SM fancies itself the dominator of trade, which is wholly untrue.

[South Olpen]

South Olpen sends Senator Bill Graham, son of beloved Harry Graham, and Vice Chairman of the LibComs. They immediately begin trying to alter the treaty, especially the part that states that "PRS and UDAF shall both take part in mutual disarmament". South Olpen says that, on their side no disarmament will be taking place, especially not on the nuclear scale.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

The IHS sends Ali Mustafa as a delegate. He explains that the SC is already established.

[Meretica]

Meretica acknowledges that the SC has been established in theory, but SM has been against its formation, as IHS well knows. IHS themselves said that they agreed with Tyranto rather than SM. If anything, it just reinforces the power of other UDAF members that are not SM, relieving some fears of SM domination politically and economically.

As a non-War hawk, Meretica proposes that it be allowed to seek elections as it has done much to prevent war, including the organization of this meeting. Meretica also notes that it drafted the initial proposal, which favors UDAF a little more than PRS. Meretica also notes that the next elected leader of PRS would likely be Pan-Europe or Xenick. Smith also states that Meretica would be open to altering the nuclear weapons clause given that AI, Laka, or others may turn out to be global threats, and also notes that Meretica's extremely weak military needs something else to back it up.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Meretica acknowledges that the SC has been established in theory, but SM has been against its formation, as IHS well knows. IHS themselves said that they agreed with Tyranto rather than SM. If anything, it just reinforces the power of other UDAF members that are not SM, relieving some fears of SM domination politically and economically.

As a non-War hawk, Meretica proposes that it be allowed to seek elections as it has done much to prevent war, including the organization of this meeting. Meretica also notes that it drafted the initial proposal, which favors UDAF a little more than PRS. Meretica also notes that the next elected leader of PRS would likely be Pan-Europe or Xenick. Smith also states that Meretica would be open to altering the nuclear weapons clause given that AI, Laka, or others may turn out to be global threats, and also notes that Meretica's extremely weak military needs something else to back it up.

The delegate says that SM has actually had the idea of making the SC, and that the IHS would not accept altering the nuclear weapons clause.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Meretica acknowledges that the SC has been established in theory, but SM has been against its formation, as IHS well knows. IHS themselves said that they agreed with Tyranto rather than SM. If anything, it just reinforces the power of other UDAF members that are not SM, relieving some fears of SM domination politically and economically.

As a non-War hawk, Meretica proposes that it be allowed to seek elections as it has done much to prevent war, including the organization of this meeting. Meretica also notes that it drafted the initial proposal, which favors UDAF a little more than PRS. Meretica also notes that the next elected leader of PRS would likely be Pan-Europe or Xenick. Smith also states that Meretica would be open to altering the nuclear weapons clause given that AI, Laka, or others may turn out to be global threats, and also notes that Meretica's extremely weak military needs something else to back it up.

George Collins proceeds to explain that the Southeast Marajarbian Government has allowed for Democratic Elections to already happen, but reminds Meretica that these elections are strictly for UDAF members only, as well as the possibility of the elections being moved to later dates because of these very peace talks, alongside a series of wars.

[Meretica]

Meretica reminds both delegations that SM said, quote, "That is where you are wrong because, without a stable chain of command, this organization would fall apart. It makes sense to give the roles of first, second, third, and fourth in command to the leaders, as they are the founders of the organizations that make up the UDAF. It makes sense to have elections for the Supreme Council, in order to have a secondary chain of command if the leaders are unable to attend to UDAF matters. Your proposal, should it not be rephrased, is a proposal to depose my government from its position of leadership, despite the fact that there is no evidence of any wrongdoings whatsoever, and the only thing made clear is that everybody wishes for peace with CUSP." This is seen by Meretica as an SM attempt to keep hold of all power and not allow democracy to run freely in the alliance. UDAF matters become world matters when UDAF matters threaten another alliance. Meretica sees SM's apparent power hold as a threat and would rather see SM elected by UDAF than set up as part of an oligarchy.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Meretica reminds both delegations that SM said, quote, "That is where you are wrong because, without a stable chain of command, this organization would fall apart. It makes sense to give the roles of first, second, third, and fourth in command to the leaders, as they are the founders of the organizations that make up the UDAF. It makes sense to have elections for the Supreme Council, in order to have a secondary chain of command if the leaders are unable to attend to UDAF matters. Your proposal, should it not be rephrased, is a proposal to depose my government from its position of leadership, despite the fact that there is no evidence of any wrongdoings whatsoever, and the only thing made clear is that everybody wishes for peace with CUSP." This is seen by Meretica as an SM attempt to keep hold of all power and not allow democracy to run freely in the alliance. UDAF matters become world matters when UDAF matters threaten another alliance. Meretica sees SM's apparent power hold as a threat and would rather see SM elected by UDAF than set up as part of an oligarchy.

George reminds the Meretican delegation that UDAF matters and World Matters are two separate things, and that their views of the Southeast Marajarbian Government and Government of the IHS as plutocratic oligarchies, are the reason why the PRS has too many war hawks. George also proceeds to state that the Empress of Meretica was appointed and not elected because of her status as Queen, and that those events are undemocratic. The coup in the Pan-European State was also undemocratic, as well as extremely violent, and the blood on the Dictator’s assassin is also on the assassin’s nation of origin’s hands. The attempted UDAF coup is also the fault of both South Olpen and Meretica, whose respective governments have made arrangements with the Government of Tyrantio Land to attempt to limit the power of a stable chain of command, as evidence by what the Meretican delegation “and-I quoted”.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Meretica reminds both delegations that SM said, quote, "That is where you are wrong because, without a stable chain of command, this organization would fall apart. It makes sense to give the roles of first, second, third, and fourth in command to the leaders, as they are the founders of the organizations that make up the UDAF. It makes sense to have elections for the Supreme Council, in order to have a secondary chain of command if the leaders are unable to attend to UDAF matters. Your proposal, should it not be rephrased, is a proposal to depose my government from its position of leadership, despite the fact that there is no evidence of any wrongdoings whatsoever, and the only thing made clear is that everybody wishes for peace with CUSP." This is seen by Meretica as an SM attempt to keep hold of all power and not allow democracy to run freely in the alliance. UDAF matters become world matters when UDAF matters threaten another alliance. Meretica sees SM's apparent power hold as a threat and would rather see SM elected by UDAF than set up as part of an oligarchy.

The IHS reminds Meretica that SM does not hold all the power and are not even top of the UDAF food chian.

OOC: What's happening with the communists in Meretica?

[Meretica]

Meretica reminds both delegations that SM said, quote, "That is where you are wrong because, without a stable chain of command, this organization would fall apart. It makes sense to give the roles of first, second, third, and fourth in command to the leaders, as they are the founders of the organizations that make up the UDAF. It makes sense to have elections for the Supreme Council, in order to have a secondary chain of command if the leaders are unable to attend to UDAF matters. Your proposal, should it not be rephrased, is a proposal to depose my government from its position of leadership, despite the fact that there is no evidence of any wrongdoings whatsoever, and the only thing made clear is that everybody wishes for peace with CUSP." This is seen by Meretica as an SM attempt to keep hold of all power and not allow democracy to run freely in the alliance. UDAF matters become world matters when UDAF matters threaten another alliance. Meretica sees SM's apparent power hold as a threat and would rather see SM elected by UDAF than set up as part of an oligarchy.

George reminds the Meretican delegation that UDAF matters and World Matters are two separate things and that their views of the Southeast Marajarbian Government and Government of the IHS as plutocratic oligarchies are the reason why the PRS has too many war hawks. George also proceeds to state that the Empress of Meretica was appointed and not elected because of her status as Queen and that those events are undemocratic. The coup in the Pan-European State was also undemocratic, as well as extremely violent, and the blood on the Dictator’s assassin is also on the assassin’s nation of origin’s hands. The attempted UDAF coup is also the fault of both South Olpen and Meretica, whose respective governments have made arrangements with the Government of Tyrantio Land to attempt to limit the power of a stable chain of command, as evidence by what the Meretican delegation “and-I quoted”.

Meretica again says that UDAF matters become global matters when situations like these arise. Smith says that the Empress was not appointed by herself, but by her people and that she has a high approval rating nationwide. Meretica denies any cooperation with a UDAF coup, a statement backed by Tyrantio's leaders. Meretica also emphasizes that it was referring to the regional government, not the internal government, as "SM can commit whatever sins behind closed doors as it wants." Meretica is not a war hawk and has no intentions of being a war hawk. If SM wants to provoke Meretica and PRS, which it seems to be doing, Meretica will not participate in war except in extreme circumstances.

OOC: Meretica peacefully divided into many individual countries. Barring Capitalist Sicily, all of those states either joined Soviet Meretica in the east or the Meretican Empire in the west. Sicily remains independent.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

George reminds the Meretican delegation that UDAF matters and World Matters are two separate things and that their views of the Southeast Marajarbian Government and Government of the IHS as plutocratic oligarchies are the reason why the PRS has too many war hawks. George also proceeds to state that the Empress of Meretica was appointed and not elected because of her status as Queen and that those events are undemocratic. The coup in the Pan-European State was also undemocratic, as well as extremely violent, and the blood on the Dictator’s assassin is also on the assassin’s nation of origin’s hands. The attempted UDAF coup is also the fault of both South Olpen and Meretica, whose respective governments have made arrangements with the Government of Tyrantio Land to attempt to limit the power of a stable chain of command, as evidence by what the Meretican delegation “and-I quoted”.

Meretica again says that UDAF matters become global matters when situations like these arise. Smith says that the Empress was not appointed by herself, but by her people and that she has a high approval rating nationwide. Meretica denies any cooperation with a UDAF coup, a statement backed by Tyrantio's leaders. Meretica also emphasizes that it was referring to the regional government, not the internal government, as "SM can commit whatever sins behind closed doors as it wants." Meretica is not a war hawk and has no intentions of being a war hawk. If SM wants to provoke Meretica and PRS, which it seems to be doing, Meretica will not participate in war except in extreme circumstances.

OOC: Meretica peacefully divided into many individual countries. Barring Capitalist Sicily, all of those states either joined Soviet Meretica in the east or the Meretican Empire in the west. Sicily remains independent.

OOC: Alright. Doesn't it seem a bit weird all the communists (NS and RL) are in the East and North?

IC: "We are currently in the process of preparing for the elections. The IHS is concerned about Soviet Meretica."

[Meretica]

Meretica again says that UDAF matters become global matters when situations like these arise. Smith says that the Empress was not appointed by herself, but by her people and that she has a high approval rating nationwide. Meretica denies any cooperation with a UDAF coup, a statement backed by Tyrantio's leaders. Meretica also emphasizes that it was referring to the regional government, not the internal government, as "SM can commit whatever sins behind closed doors as it wants." Meretica is not a war hawk and has no intentions of being a war hawk. If SM wants to provoke Meretica and PRS, which it seems to be doing, Meretica will not participate in war except in extreme circumstances.

OOC: Meretica peacefully divided into many individual countries. Barring Capitalist Sicily, all of those states either joined Soviet Meretica in the east or the Meretican Empire in the west. Sicily remains independent.

OOC: Alright. Doesn't it seem a bit weird all the communists (NS and RL) are in the East and North?

IC: "We are currently in the process of preparing for the elections. The IHS is concerned about Soviet Meretica."

OOC: Originally, it was going to be the other way around, but then I remembered that Italy was hit by far fewer nuclear warheads (most of those hit the Swiss parts of Meretica and northern/eastern Greece.) I like strong economies, so I did a switcheroo

IC: "Soviet Meretica exists by the consent of the Empress. Their economic policies may be absolute failures, but their Premier is a good man with a good heart. I know him personally. They are not a threat to anyone but themselves."

[Islamic Holy Sites]

OOC: Alright. Doesn't it seem a bit weird all the communists (NS and RL) are in the East and North?

IC: "We are currently in the process of preparing for the elections. The IHS is concerned about Soviet Meretica."

OOC: Originally, it was going to be the other way around, but then I remembered that Italy was hit by far fewer nuclear warheads (most of those hit the Swiss parts of Meretica and northern/eastern Greece.) I like strong economies, so I did a switcheroo

IC: "Soviet Meretica exists by the consent of the Empress. Their economic policies may be absolute failures, but their Premier is a good man with a good heart. I know him personally. They are not a threat to anyone but themselves."

"The IHS does not approve of Communism."

[Meretica]

OOC: Originally, it was going to be the other way around, but then I remembered that Italy was hit by far fewer nuclear warheads (most of those hit the Swiss parts of Meretica and northern/eastern Greece.) I like strong economies, so I did a switcheroo

IC: "Soviet Meretica exists by the consent of the Empress. Their economic policies may be absolute failures, but their Premier is a good man with a good heart. I know him personally. They are not a threat to anyone but themselves."

"The IHS does not approve of Communism."

"Meretica does not approve of economic monopolies. Your point?"

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George reminds the Meretican delegation that UDAF matters and World Matters are two separate things and that their views of the Southeast Marajarbian Government and Government of the IHS as plutocratic oligarchies are the reason why the PRS has too many war hawks. George also proceeds to state that the Empress of Meretica was appointed and not elected because of her status as Queen and that those events are undemocratic. The coup in the Pan-European State was also undemocratic, as well as extremely violent, and the blood on the Dictator’s assassin is also on the assassin’s nation of origin’s hands. The attempted UDAF coup is also the fault of both South Olpen and Meretica, whose respective governments have made arrangements with the Government of Tyrantio Land to attempt to limit the power of a stable chain of command, as evidence by what the Meretican delegation “and-I quoted”.

Meretica again says that UDAF matters become global matters when situations like these arise. Smith says that the Empress was not appointed by herself, but by her people and that she has a high approval rating nationwide. Meretica denies any cooperation with a UDAF coup, a statement backed by Tyrantio's leaders. Meretica also emphasizes that it was referring to the regional government, not the internal government, as "SM can commit whatever sins behind closed doors as it wants." Meretica is not a war hawk and has no intentions of being a war hawk. If SM wants to provoke Meretica and PRS, which it seems to be doing, Meretica will not participate in war except in extreme circumstances.

OOC: Meretica peacefully divided into many individual countries. Barring Capitalist Sicily, all of those states either joined Soviet Meretica in the east or the Meretican Empire in the west. Sicily remains independent.

George once again states that outside intervention in strictly UDAF matters in not appreciated, and then he proceeds to say “The PRS clearly is going to become a failure should South Olpen remain in power, as just 16 hours ago they almost made the PRS become the instigator of a World War. A world war would not be good, especially since various nations would immediately target and destroy nations such as Meretica easily, especially Meretica. That is why war must be avoided.”

[Tyrantio Land]

Tyrantio representative Max Anderson walks into the room clearly upset, "I've been woken up for this, I thought this was something important not some peace deal that should have happened months ago. But I must say that some arguments are good arguments and some are not, their are things I wish to change within the PRS and the UDAF, but I doubt the needed changes will ever happen. I would also like to point out that many nations contributed to the near outbreak of war(SO, SM, me, King Isle, ect) so we should probably establish a hotline for if this ever happens again."

[Islamic Holy Sites]

"The IHS does not approve of Communism."

"Meretica does not approve of economic monopolies. Your point?"

"I do not understand you. Either you have literally no clue about anything about the IHS, or you are trying to be funny. There are no monopolies in the IHS."

[Meretica]

Meretica again says that UDAF matters become global matters when situations like these arise. Smith says that the Empress was not appointed by herself, but by her people and that she has a high approval rating nationwide. Meretica denies any cooperation with a UDAF coup, a statement backed by Tyrantio's leaders. Meretica also emphasizes that it was referring to the regional government, not the internal government, as "SM can commit whatever sins behind closed doors as it wants." Meretica is not a war hawk and has no intentions of being a war hawk. If SM wants to provoke Meretica and PRS, which it seems to be doing, Meretica will not participate in war except in extreme circumstances.

OOC: Meretica peacefully divided into many individual countries. Barring Capitalist Sicily, all of those states either joined Soviet Meretica in the east or the Meretican Empire in the west. Sicily remains independent.

George once again states that outside intervention in strictly UDAF matters is not appreciated, and then he proceeds to say “The PRS clearly is going to become a failure should South Olpen remain in power, as just 16 hours ago they almost made the PRS become the instigator of a World War. A world war would not be good, especially since various nations would immediately target and destroy nations such as Meretica easily, especially Meretica. That is why war must be avoided.”

"That would be a war crime and a repeated Meretican genocide," Smith warns. "Meretica does not back South Olpen as a leader. We have maintained our anti-war status. If a strike of any kind were taken against Meretica, nuclear or otherwise, the World Assembly would be invited to condemn all involved parties."

"Meretica does not approve of economic monopolies. Your point?"

"I do not understand you. Either you have literally no clue about anything about the IHS, or you are trying to be funny. There are no monopolies in the IHS."

"I understand that there are no monopolies in IHS. My point was that we do not eternally fight against one thing's existence just because it exists, with the lone exception being fascism. Currently, we are unable to challenge fascism but intend to return to that goal within five years."

[Islamic Holy Sites]

George once again states that outside intervention in strictly UDAF matters is not appreciated, and then he proceeds to say “The PRS clearly is going to become a failure should South Olpen remain in power, as just 16 hours ago they almost made the PRS become the instigator of a World War. A world war would not be good, especially since various nations would immediately target and destroy nations such as Meretica easily, especially Meretica. That is why war must be avoided.”

"That would be a war crime and a repeated Meretican genocide," Smith warns. "Meretica does not back South Olpen as a leader. We have maintained our anti-war status. If a strike of any kind were taken against Meretica, nuclear or otherwise, the World Assembly would be invited to condemn all involved parties."

"I do not understand you. Either you have literally no clue about anything about the IHS, or you are trying to be funny. There are no monopolies in the IHS."

"I understand that there are no monopolies in IHS. My point was that we do not eternally fight against one thing's existence just because it exists, with the lone exception being fascism. Currently, we are unable to challenge fascism but intend to return to that goal within five years."

"Why should fascism be the exception? We fight against anything unjust to it's, or our, end."

[Meretica]

"That would be a war crime and a repeated Meretican genocide," Smith warns. "Meretica does not back South Olpen as a leader. We have maintained our anti-war status. If a strike of any kind were taken against Meretica, nuclear or otherwise, the World Assembly would be invited to condemn all involved parties."


"I understand that there are no monopolies in IHS. My point was that we do not eternally fight against one thing's existence just because it exists, with the lone exception being fascism. Currently, we are unable to challenge fascism but intend to return to that goal within five years."

"Why should fascism be the exception? We fight against anything unjust to its, or our, end."

IC: "Meretica does not find communism to be unjust, at least not in theory. As an economic philosophy, its morals and ethics can be debated and questioned, but not all communist nations are inherently bad. Fascism is a different story-- from the Meretica perspective, at least."

OOC: What kind of economy does IHS have? I can't find mentions of it in your factbooks.

[South Olpen]

"Why should fascism be the exception? We fight against anything unjust to its, or our, end."

IC: "Meretica does not find communism to be unjust, at least not in theory. As an economic philosophy, its morals and ethics can be debated and questioned, but not all communist nations are inherently bad. Fascism is a different story-- from the Meretica perspective, at least."

OOC: What kind of economy does IHS have? I can't find mentions of it in your factbooks.

"Us ourselves are communist, we don't eat your babies, we simply wish to free our citizens of bourgeoisie extortion."

[Islamic Holy Sites]

"Why should fascism be the exception? We fight against anything unjust to its, or our, end."

IC: "Meretica does not find communism to be unjust, at least not in theory. As an economic philosophy, its morals and ethics can be debated and questioned, but not all communist nations are inherently bad. Fascism is a different story-- from the Meretica perspective, at least."

OOC: What kind of economy does IHS have? I can't find mentions of it in your factbooks.

IC: "It's views on religion and democracy."
OOC: Sort of a Democratic Socialist/Islamic economy mix.