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[DRAFT] In Memory of the United Nations

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[DRAFT] In Memory of the United Nations

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In Memory of the United Nations
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The Security Council Assembly,

Mourning the collapse of the global body, which legislated for peace and harmony, the United Nations (hereafter "UN"),

Thankful its bitter demise gave rise to the far superior legislative body, the WA (World Assembly),

Noting however that the WA would not have the quality it has today without the practice given by the UN,

Understanding that none of the cast astray resolutions were migrated to this day, substitutions instead made to take their place,

Feeling its founders and authors should be praised for their global cooperation which paved the way for the WA's present face,

Hereby, set to take place immediately:

- Acknowledges, Honors, and Commemorates the now former existence of the UN,

- Appreciates its efforts to legislate in an attempt to create global union,

- Respects its members' commitment to create intrigue, involvement, and participation,

- Congratulates authors', and thanks voting states', improving quality of resolutions,

- Praises the forces behind the creation of the more stable World Assembly, despite the UN's collapse, to take action to recreate worldwide stability,

- Thanks those who worked hard to salvage what was lost, in the name of the greater good, at no cost,

- Hoping the anomaly that had destroyed the UN will not put this body to shame, Condemns the destruction of what was enjoyed in the name of a strange political game,

- Declares, to preserve important history, this body shall recognize the UN's name,

- Firmly prompts regions to adopt this treaty, and strongly urges nations to do the same.

In honor of: The UN Community.


In Commemoration of the UN
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The Security Council,

Acknowledging the collapse of the world-wide legislative body that was the United Nations (abbreviated "UN"),

Thankful that its collapse gave rise to the far superior World Assembly,

Noting however that the World Assembly would not be the quality that it is today without the existence of the former body,

Understanding that none of the passed resolutions were directly migrated into the World Assembly,

Believing that its founders and original authors should be praised for their experiment that achieved global cooperation and paved the way for the World Assembly,

Hereby:

- Acknowledges and honors the former existence of the United Nations,

- Appreciates the efforts of those who've created interest in a global legislative body,

- Congratulates authors who passed legislation in the former body and steadily increased the quality,

- Praises the forces that created the World Assembly despite the UN's collapse in an effort to recreate worldwide stability,

- Thanks member states who passed the earliest World Assembly resolutions in order to salvage what was lost,

- Condemns the anomaly that resulted in the UN's collapse, and

- Strongly urges member states and regions to do the same.


In Commemoration of the Lost Assembly
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The Security Council,

Acknowledging the collapse of the world-wide legislative body that appeared before this Assembly,

Thankful that its collapse gave rise to the far superior World Assembly,

Noting however that the World Assembly would not be the quality that it is today without the existence of the former body,

Understanding that none of the passed resolutions were directly migrated into the World Assembly,

Believing that its founders and original authors should be praised for their experiment that gave rise to the World Assembly,

Hereby:

- Acknowledges and honors the former existence of the World Assembly's predecessor,

- Appreciates the efforts of those who've created interest in a global legislative body,

- Congratulates authors who passed legislation in the former body and steadily increased the quality,

- Praises the forces that created the World Assembly in an effort to recreate worldwide stability,

- Thanks member states who passed the earliest World Assembly resolutions in order to salvage what was lost,

- Condemns the anomaly that resulted in the former body's collapse, and

- Strongly urges member states and regions to do the same.


OOC: I'm aware that 95% of its proposals were almost as bad as today's, doesn't mean I can't also create one just as bad that recognizes them.
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Postby The Hazar Amisnery » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:48 pm

I'm pretty sure you need the UN's permission to include their stuff in your movies/games cause they don't want their reputation damaged (same as how there aren't any plane crashes in Microsoft FS) and that's why Max Barry has to shut it down. The WA is basically the same as the UN so I don't see why we need to commemorate/remember it.
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Postby Jedinsto » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:58 pm

Yeah Max got a cease and desist thingy that asked for their to be no mention to the UN within the game itself. i.e. this resolution.
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Postby Jutsa » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:11 pm

OOC: I'm assuming it's fine to mention in a resolution since that's what GA#1 does,
but in the event that was a special exception, I can always just change all instances of "United Nations" to UN. :P
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:14 pm

Jutsa wrote:OOC: I'm assuming it's fine to mention in a resolution since that's what GA#1 does,
but in the event that was a special exception, I can always just change all instances of "United Nations" to UN. :P

still doesn't count. They have copyright over this. And if you udner the age of 18 in the US I think this proposal could get you in real IRL trobble as it is illegal in the US and you can be charged if you 18 and older.
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Postby Jutsa » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:16 pm

"Former legislative body" if UN doesn't work?
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:17 pm

Jutsa wrote:"Former legislative body" if UN doesn't work?

that by copyright will work so legally yes. From theirs it's the admins choose to do it or not.
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Postby Jutsa » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:49 pm

Reworded. (I've got the old copy in a word document though. :p)

Let me know if "condemn the anomaly that resulted in [its] demise" is too legally questionable as well. I don't want to get this site or myself in any trouble. xD
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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:50 pm

Jedinsto wrote:Yeah Max got a cease and desist thingy that asked for their to be no mention to the UN within the game itself. i.e. this resolution.

Incorrect. The "United Nations" body within the game had to go, but it is not illegal to mention the United Nations. There's been a region by that name for years.

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Jutsa wrote:OOC: I'm assuming it's fine to mention in a resolution since that's what GA#1 does,
but in the event that was a special exception, I can always just change all instances of "United Nations" to UN. :P

still doesn't count. They have copyright over this. And if you udner the age of 18 in the US I think this proposal could get you in real IRL trobble as it is illegal in the US and you can be charged if you 18 and older.

Please stop giving out incorrect advice.

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Postby Jutsa » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:04 am

Sedgistan wrote:*snip*


Thank you, Sedge. I think I trust your word a bit more. :)

Since readded UN and United Nations references; although I didn't strictly revert to my old version, and kept some things to help de-monotonize things.
The original isn't visible, but I do have it saved. It's very akin to what is up now. :p
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Postby Jedinsto » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:03 am

Incorrect. The "United Nations" body within the game had to go, but it is not illegal to mention the United Nations. There's been a region by that name for years.

Really? I must be remembering the letter incorrectly, I read it at one point and I was convinced it couldn't be a part of the game itself at all. I apologize, then.
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:43 pm

A new draft was sent by the Grand Council of Jutsa. The adjustments are now shown above. I think it's wordy, but when push comes to shove, 'twas not enough, for fluff is the stuff they love.
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Postby The Unified Missourtama States » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:32 am

The Hazar Amisnery wrote:I'm pretty sure you need the UN's permission to include their stuff in your movies/games cause they don't want their reputation damaged (same as how there aren't any plane crashes in Microsoft FS) and that's why Max Barry has to shut it down. The WA is basically the same as the UN so I don't see why we need to commemorate/remember it.

That's not why planes don't crash in Microsoft Flight Simulator, there are multiple other flying games with actual licensed planes where one you crash them like real life and explode in glory; It is a flight simulator, not a crash simulator, computing damage would take away from the realism of the majority of flying.
Jedinsto wrote:Yeah Max got a cease and desist thingy that asked for their to be no mention to the UN within the game itself. i.e. this resolution.

Good thing this proposal isn't part of the game! It's player submitted content.

But anyways, hear it from the big horse:

https://maxbarry.com/2006/02/18/news.html

(The Trademark Dilution Revision Act did pass, however it's not as scary as Max makes it sound, although it is still fucking dangerous, we are still good, this activity fall under the section 3 protections.)

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Postby Berhakonia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:11 pm

Opposed on the grounds of this proposal being illegal
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:56 pm

Berhakonia wrote:Opposed on the grounds of this proposal being illegal

How is it illegal? Isn't the UN (at least in NS) been there until it got destroyed by a cease and desist order from the actual UN?
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Postby Morover » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:05 pm

Support in principle. There's some room for improvement and I'll try and send over critiques at some point in the coming days. Honestly, an innovative idea.
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Postby Grishahakkaverchynot » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:09 pm

I'm pretty sure you'd need the permission of the IRL United Nations if you wanted to submit this......
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Postby Goobergunchia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:13 pm

Grishahakkaverchynot wrote:I'm pretty sure you'd need the permission of the IRL United Nations if you wanted to submit this......

Incorrect. Read Sedgistan's post above.

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Postby Berhakonia » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:42 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Berhakonia wrote:Opposed on the grounds of this proposal being illegal

How is it illegal? Isn't the UN (at least in NS) been there until it got destroyed by a cease and desist order from the actual UN?

Didn't read Sedgistan's post.

This proposal might be legal, but it still feels in poor taste.
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Berhakonia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:How is it illegal? Isn't the UN (at least in NS) been there until it got destroyed by a cease and desist order from the actual UN?

Didn't read Sedgistan's post.

This proposal might be legal, but it still feels in poor taste.

Tell that to the actual UN.
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Postby Amerion » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:38 pm

I do apologise but I fail to see how this declaration rises to the seriousness with which declarations are intended for, as so very aptly demonstrated by our recent Declaration On Hippopotamuses.
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Jutsa wrote:OOC: I'm assuming it's fine to mention in a resolution since that's what GA#1 does,
but in the event that was a special exception, I can always just change all instances of "United Nations" to UN. :P

Wait, people actually voted against the WA? What if GA#1 never passed?
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Postby Berhakonia » Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:39 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Berhakonia wrote:Didn't read Sedgistan's post.

This proposal might be legal, but it still feels in poor taste.

Tell that to the actual UN.

No point making a fuss about it to the actual UN because that would be even pettier than what the UN did in the first place. Can't spesk for you, but the WA (along with Max Barry's spat with the "accursed real-world organization") predates my experience on this site by close to six years, alt accounts included, and predates a large chunk of the current playerbase by an even wider margin. Nostalgia or not, injustice or not, blowing on the embers of some old feud that Max buried ages ago leaves a very poor taste.
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Postby Jutsa » Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:04 am

Amerion wrote:I do apologise but I fail to see how this declaration rises to the seriousness with which declarations are intended for, as so very aptly demonstrated by our recent Declaration On Hippopotamuses.


That is true. That piece of legislation sets a very high bar, doesn't it?

Nostalgia or not, injustice or not, blowing on the embers of some old feud that Max buried ages ago leaves a very poor taste.


Yeah, I get that. That being said, I'd rather not forget the UN, instead thinking of it akin to the League of the Nations, which also fell into disarray.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:52 pm

Berhakonia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Tell that to the actual UN.

No point making a fuss about it to the actual UN because that would be even pettier than what the UN did in the first place. Can't spesk for you, but the WA (along with Max Barry's spat with the "accursed real-world organization") predates my experience on this site by close to six years, alt accounts included, and predates a large chunk of the current playerbase by an even wider margin. Nostalgia or not, injustice or not, blowing on the embers of some old feud that Max buried ages ago leaves a very poor taste.

I fail to see how it's in poor taste. I mean, it was a part of ancient NS history, even GA1 alludes to its destruction and the need to refound it in the form of the World Assembly, so a declaration in memorandum is not distasteful of past NS history that most of us never got to see.
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