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How would YN defend against AN?

Postby Octahedralia » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:19 pm

YN has found itself in an all-out war against AN for whatever reason. If possible, how would YN's forces defend against AN's?


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Postby Dod Nersialand » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:22 pm

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Postby Acraus Federation » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:34 pm

Since there is no information on their tech, we will assume that they are a standard MT nation. We have a space navy which they lack so we can find and bombard their logistics hubs from orbit. With a lack of supplies pinning down their armor and other units our marines can use the mobility afforded by their Dragon dropships to raid the enemy forces and get out long before their armor can arrive. However, avoiding armor engagements is of the highest priority, our own tank and anti-tank forces are highly under funded and are unlikely to trade favorably with their armored forces. Enemy armor should be preferred to be taken out by Dragon rocket runs, Firestrom airstrikes, or artillery barrages. As supplies and their troops run out from our actions they should realize that their invasion is not wroth the effort and they'll sue for peace.
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Postby Terra Nova Sapientia » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:38 pm

Surrender. we have no chance to win against a nation with an FT Technology.


There is currently no information showing our military and our technology. but assume we have an army identical to the Modern US Army in terms of tech, numbers and structure
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Postby Destyntine » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:58 pm

The first idea would be to threaten any incoming armies with a warning from the Capital Fleet, accompanied with a massive show of force. Only if opened fire upon or the warning ignored, would the use of interplanetary rounds be used against any naval/air fleets. If this force is infantry, combat AI and well suited military will attempt to negotiate at the border about why this would be a bad idea, in an attempt to avoid conflict. If unavoidable, once again force will be used and interplanetary rounds may be used on forces far enough away from civilian populations.
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Postby Acraus Federation » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:42 pm

Upon spotting alien vessels approaching the Acruas system with intent to invade we would activate Article 15 of the Federation's charter bringing all member nation's extensive militaries under our command. However, they would soon question that was really necessary when our fleets clash. The Federation's own fleet is much larger than their war fleet even with out Article 15 in play. With Article 15 activated our member nations who have spent much of their time in an arms race would finally see how their fleets they've been investing so much in would do in a real battle. The ISN of the Vipers alone has the same amount of battleships as our enemies entire nation does and with the Federation having more destroyers than the enemy does in their entire arsenal it could be argued that it would take only the Federation and ISN fleets to be able to defend our system from any attack they could mount. However we wouldn't be defending with just that as the Vulpius powers have also been building up their navies into an equally respectable fighting force so barring any unseen major gaps in technology the combined fleet should be able to handle all of the enemy's fleets invading at the same time.

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Postby Vikanias » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:45 pm

Considering they are an FT nation it’d be a long war, we’d begin to use guerrilla tactics to hold them off as we build a super-weapon quick enough and strong enough to destroy their home planet, and hopefully get space ships to fight in.

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Postby The Winter Sun » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:48 pm

We as a nation are constantly developing high-tech weaponry to deter neighboring nations from taking a stand against us. Our armies are almost exclusively made from androids fitted with the latest weapons. If our WMDs are unable to hit the spaceships once they come into low orbit, our scientists will make ones that can.

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Postby Sky Reavers » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:48 pm

Sky Reavers would employ lightning raids and guerrilla tactics to defend agaisnt the androids. The goal would be to salvage android tech and use it agaisnt them in all ways possible, to even the technological disadvantage. Androids would be studied and EMP grenades would be used agaisnt them liberally, while their manufacturing would be increased.
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Postby The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:37 pm

Throw anti-matter bombs at them, because bikes aren’t so fast when a rocket is locked on its target. And why make a long-winded explanation on how TAFTSE defends itself when it can just do what every other FT nation does?
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Postby Acraus Federation » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:23 pm

We'll start a council meeting to enact Article 15 to bring all of our member nations' militaries under our control and die halfway through because they're that powerful.

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Postby Nacrad » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:00 am

Due to the Acarus Federation being more advanced than Nacrad (us being earthbound), Nacrad will likely bargain with the AF so that their opinion on us is at least neutral. We would also attempt to bring AF economically closer to Nacrad to prevent an invasion

AF, being a space-faring federation, likely has little experience engaging in ground warfare in some subtropical rainforest like ours. Needless to say, the MOD will definitely use the terrain to its advantage, initially attempting to hold its cities and thereby ensnaring the Federation Marines in an urban conflict. Failing that, it would instead decentralise its ranks, and engage in guerilla warfare.
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Postby Sky Reavers » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:15 am

Different factions would rally against Nacrad and each will use it's own set of tactics and terrain advantage. Overgrown Sky Reavers turf is nice for lightning raids and guerrilla warfare, and with most Sky Reavers being armed, Nacrad forces would soon face relentless non-stop attacks from every side. Exhaust before overwhelm.

Not to mention, that Sky Reavers would use their technological edge against Nacrad.
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Postby Ukcross » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:53 pm

Militas, Already Stationed Soldiers, and Guerilla Warfare. Maybe Invade Their Country as a Distraction.

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How would YN defend against AN?

Postby Dammerung Foundation » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:53 pm

Unleash DCA-004 on them, I guess?
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Postby Vikanias » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:55 pm

Just surrender, no way we could ever win against the NS version of the SCP foundation.
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-baby pops out
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Postby Mirum » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:02 pm

Defensive? Blockade our ports, activate anti-missile countermeasures, have fighter jets on standby, and just wait. Offensive*? Bombard their cities to rubble using missiles and Big Battleship Cannons.

*Sometimes, the best defense is a good counter-offensive.
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Postby United States of Sarjania » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:04 pm

Well, enter peace talks if possible. If not, bombard them to dust from the orbit.
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Postby Sky Reavers » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:07 pm

Pull some strings and use bribes, blackmail and such in order to achieve white peace ASAP, we dont wanna deal with orbital bombardment. But if they insist, we gonna use our usual tactics and make the lives of their ground forces a living hell like Vietnam and Mad Max combined. Might hijack a spaceship, if it lands.
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Postby Quartia and Karafuto » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:06 pm

An attack from Sky Reavers would, obviously, mean guerrillas. Any invasion of a moderate-sized Asian country by a tiny one in the Caribbean can only end badly. What the Sky Reavers are likely doing is piracy (by sea AND air) of Quartian trade routes, through the Panama Canal and the Magellan Straits. An invasion of their home islands would probably result in success... but they likely have many islands with no central bases so it would be a very prolonged war involving lots of occupation and harsh treatment of the islanders to stamp out any piracy and most likely eventually make them a colony.
The other option is, of course, to try to recruit some of them to a less anarchist socialist cause, possibly having the loyalists fight the rest of the nation, and making the war much easier.
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Postby Acraus Federation » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:27 pm

As with several other nations, they lack a space navy so we have complete orbital control. This allows us to call in orbital strikes on supply bases or confirmed concentrations of troops disrupting their attack plans. With their armies disorganized with the loss of important supplies and with very large groups of soldiers being bombarded from orbit, our marines should be able to move in and start cleaning them up. Hopefully enemy armor has been disabled enough that our marines don't encounter significant armored resistance due to our own lack of experienced armor and anti-tank launcher users. A wing of Dragons and Firestorms should be on station to deal with such armor threats. By the end of our battleplan, they should see the error of their ways and sue for peace.

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Postby Plisseau » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:30 pm

Make them think we're friendly, invite them to lavish Plisseaun parties en masse. Poison their wine. Hope something works.

Otherwise? Breaking out the nukes. Not much else we could do.
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Postby Aerlanica » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:36 pm

Plisseau wrote:-snip-


First, we'd conduct a tactical retreat to more defensible locations so that they're surrounded on three sides by troopsbefore conducting an intense series of guerrilla attacks, supply line disruptions and bombing. We'd threaten breakthroughs in areas to draw in more troops. Then, we'd conduct intense breakthroughs of the lines far behind the frontlines and try and make a series of large encirclements to basically pressure the annihilation/capture of most their forces.

If not, we'd make Vietnam and Afghanistan look like tea parties.
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