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Texkentuck
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Postby Texkentuck » Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:13 pm

Non-member-nations are permitted to submit information on potential or ongoing disasters to the WADB, but information submitted by non-member-nations shall be met with high levels of discretion in order to prove their accuracy. In cases where non-member-nations are at high risk, the WADB is permitted to provide information on imminent or ongoing disasters, on a discretionary basis. Non-member-nations are not permitted to receive the aid, as laid out by this resolution.

Our nation will be in full cooperation...But our nation realizes that because of WA beuacracy we will be met with discretion...That's fine because if the WA doesn't want to believe in a reported tsunami that we had that's fine or the forming of a disease we hope that the WA doesn't act late as were wrapped up trying to prove the disaster....If our nation states something to the WA please take our disaster seriously...Also we are open to funds even if the WA law says other wise.

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Herby
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Postby Herby » Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:41 pm

OOC Clause 8. Since when is it legal to legislate on non-member nations?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:12 pm

Herby wrote:OOC Clause 8. Since when is it legal to legislate on non-member nations?

Non-member-nations are permitted to submit information on potential or ongoing disasters to the WADB, but information submitted by non-member-nations shall be met with high levels of discretion in order to prove their accuracy.

The key word is permitted. It doesn't require them to submit information on disasters to the WADB, but they can do so.
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Postby Texkentuck » Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:15 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Herby wrote:OOC Clause 8. Since when is it legal to legislate on non-member nations?

Non-member-nations are permitted to submit information on potential or ongoing disasters to the WADB, but information submitted by non-member-nations shall be met with high levels of discretion in order to prove their accuracy.

The key word is permitted. It doesn't require them to submit information on disasters to the WADB, but they can do so.


Thank you Outer Sparta, We believe the world Assembly is taking the right path forward in this proposal....

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The president states based on our sovereignty we choose to do so to be in accord....Sure their will be investigators! In the case of a disaster we have no problem with inspectors who check documents on how many people were involved in a natural disaster. We believe it's important to report tsunamis so that the WA will have a better understanding of weather patterns to keep the WA safe. Just last year we nuked an enemy fleet in the southern half of our nation. It caused a small tsunami type event. We did start a human rights initiative in that region, and many labor camps released prisoners do to our force and military action. It was apart of our operation to free citizens in the southern half of our continent. A nation has entered our war and is helping in training freed tribal people who want to help in taking back freedom against a group called the Zusa. The nation who is a new member of the UCCR Gholistan is helping in our war effort. We will show you all here on this projector our news articles of the event....

The president shouts out to his staff: Get the articles projected.....For the WA on a wide computer screen brought into the WA and the articles are shown.
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In one more year the peace, harmony, and freedom will prevail with the new nation Gholistan coordinating over this land with the support of our nation....

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Reich Hungary
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Postby Reich Hungary » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:45 am

Herby wrote:OOC Clause 8. Since when is it legal to legislate on non-member nations?

I mean non-membership, it means the Observer and I also emphasize here in bold black print: (STATES ASSOCIATED WITH THE UNITED NATION) in these regulations (OOC) under the system, add here to the right new no one was wrong small paragraph: # STATES BEYOND THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE RIGHTS OF OOC ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ORGANIZATION AS AN OBSERVER, NOT A MEMBER BUT I CAN BE IN THE COUNCIL FOR COMMISSION AS WE SPEAK. !
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:53 am

Reich Hungary wrote:
Herby wrote:OOC Clause 8. Since when is it legal to legislate on non-member nations?

I mean non-membership, it means the Observer and I also emphasize here in bold black print: (STATES ASSOCIATED WITH THE UNITED NATION) in these regulations (OOC) under the system, add here to the right new no one was wrong small paragraph: # STATES BEYOND THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE RIGHTS OF OOC ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ORGANIZATION AS AN OBSERVER, NOT A MEMBER BUT I CAN BE IN THE COUNCIL FOR COMMISSION AS WE SPEAK. !

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Official communique from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Empire of Kandorith.



On The Proposal Disaster Precautions and Responses

Recognizing the recent repeal of Resolution 105, “Preparing For Disasters”, the Empire of Kanyori has been awaiting a new resolution regarding these matters which wreak havoc and destruction everywhere.

As a nation which is frequently hit by such disasters as earthquakes and typhoons; we do believe that every nation should be able to mitigate the damages of such disasters and life threatening situations. Therefore, we applaud this proposal and we will always stand for urging our fellow World Assembly members to try and reach out a helping hand to each and all when such disasters occur.

We, The Empire, believe very firmly in the importance of a feeling of not being alone when the nation is in a state of emergency and disaster. Where we have had disaster prevention in place for decades now, not every nation is as fortunate nor as experienced as we are. These nations need all the help they can get and we, like many members in these halls, will stand for that. Nowhere in the world should suffering be the concern of just one entity.

Therefore, the Empire of Kanyori votes FOR this proposal and hopes that the proposal will lead to a more active role in helping those in their days in need.

In The Name of Her Majesty The Empress, Empress Masumi:

Her Excellency, Ambassador Noriko Miyamoto.


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Katoravian Cordia
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Postby Katoravian Cordia » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:01 pm

I voted yes and I have no regrets regarding my voting because some developing countries do not have the money to deal with accidental natural events that kill many and destroy nations.

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Danyl
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Postby Danyl » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:11 pm

("VWOOOOORP! VWOOOOOORP" - suddenly a blue 1960s police box appears in the WA chamber)
"So, out of curiosity, pertaining to this "...Non-member-nations are not permitted to receive the aid, as laid out by this resolution.". What if a non-Member nation has a disaster, is unable to rectify said disaster due to lack of funds and resources, and that disaster, if left unchecked, spreads to member nations? Are we just supposed to wait until a member nation is affected before offering funds/aid? Seems somewhat less than "precautionary", no? I'm not saying we offer up tons of funds to non-member nations, but not providing anything other than "info" is hardly appropriate given a potentially escalating disaster. " Respectfully, while we Gallifreyans do like much of this proposal, this bit would prevent us from approving."

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Kurogasa
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Postby Kurogasa » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:32 am

Danyl wrote:("VWOOOOORP! VWOOOOOORP" - suddenly a blue 1960s police box appears in the WA chamber)
"So, out of curiosity, pertaining to this "...Non-member-nations are not permitted to receive the aid, as laid out by this resolution.". What if a non-Member nation has a disaster, is unable to rectify said disaster due to lack of funds and resources, and that disaster, if left unchecked, spreads to member nations? Are we just supposed to wait until a member nation is affected before offering funds/aid? Seems somewhat less than "precautionary", no? I'm not saying we offer up tons of funds to non-member nations, but not providing anything other than "info" is hardly appropriate given a potentially escalating disaster. " Respectfully, while we Gallifreyans do like much of this proposal, this bit would prevent us from approving."

Yours,

The Doctor


Are you saying we should bomb non WA nations?, that seems rather extreme.

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Sylh Alanor
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Postby Sylh Alanor » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:31 pm

Kurogasa wrote:
Danyl wrote:("VWOOOOORP! VWOOOOOORP" - suddenly a blue 1960s police box appears in the WA chamber)
"So, out of curiosity, pertaining to this "...Non-member-nations are not permitted to receive the aid, as laid out by this resolution.". What if a non-Member nation has a disaster, is unable to rectify said disaster due to lack of funds and resources, and that disaster, if left unchecked, spreads to member nations? Are we just supposed to wait until a member nation is affected before offering funds/aid? Seems somewhat less than "precautionary", no? I'm not saying we offer up tons of funds to non-member nations, but not providing anything other than "info" is hardly appropriate given a potentially escalating disaster. " Respectfully, while we Gallifreyans do like much of this proposal, this bit would prevent us from approving."

Yours,

The Doctor


Are you saying we should bomb non WA nations?, that seems rather extreme.

I know this resolution has already passed, but I can't stop myself from questioning how you interpreted that message in this way.
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Kurogasa
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Postby Kurogasa » Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:08 pm

Sylh Alanor wrote:
Kurogasa wrote:
Are you saying we should bomb non WA nations?, that seems rather extreme.

I know this resolution has already passed, but I can't stop myself from questioning how you interpreted that message in this way.


He was vaguely implying we should send aid to non-WA nations to avoid things from spreading further, but I chose to misinterpret it as destroying non-WA nations because 1. it's funny to me, and 2. my nation refuses to spend a dime on non-WA nations because they don't invest in the WA.

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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:32 pm

Lest we forget:
Disaster Precautions And Responses was passed 9,483 votes to 2,817. (77.10% support)
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Danyl
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Postby Danyl » Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:41 am

Kurogasa wrote:
Danyl wrote:("VWOOOOORP! VWOOOOOORP" - suddenly a blue 1960s police box appears in the WA chamber)
"So, out of curiosity, pertaining to this "...Non-member-nations are not permitted to receive the aid, as laid out by this resolution.". What if a non-Member nation has a disaster, is unable to rectify said disaster due to lack of funds and resources, and that disaster, if left unchecked, spreads to member nations? Are we just supposed to wait until a member nation is affected before offering funds/aid? Seems somewhat less than "precautionary", no? I'm not saying we offer up tons of funds to non-member nations, but not providing anything other than "info" is hardly appropriate given a potentially escalating disaster. " Respectfully, while we Gallifreyans do like much of this proposal, this bit would prevent us from approving."

Yours,

The Doctor


Are you saying we should bomb non WA nations?, that seems rather extreme.


Obviously not. Well, at least obvious to anyone who read what I said and didn't interpret it in the most nonsensical way imaginable.

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