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Caymarnia
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Founded: Nov 19, 2015
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Caymarnia » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:25 pm

Aside from the rather amusing detour into metaphysics - I think anybody with a reasonably intelligent mind knows what a "worker" is - we find this a laudable proposal, and Caymarnia votes for it. The workers are the future, and their welfare is as much the responsibility of the State as it is the individual.
Caymarnia - The Caymarnian Democratic Republic

His Excellency Marshal of Caymarnia Juan Carlos Madero
President of the Caymarnian Democratic Republic, General Secretary of the Communist Liberation Party of Caymarnia, and Chairman of the National Council for the Defense of the People

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Amloistan
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Founded: Sep 22, 2021
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Amloistan » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:07 pm

The goverment of Amloistan sees this propossal completly proposterous, this propposal is made to monopolize the industry, How small nations going to grow their economy with this kind of restrictions?

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Goobergunchia
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Goobergunchia » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:53 pm

Caymarnia wrote:Aside from the rather amusing detour into metaphysics - I think anybody with a reasonably intelligent mind knows what a "worker" is - we find this a laudable proposal, and Caymarnia votes for it. The workers are the future, and their welfare is as much the responsibility of the State as it is the individual.

While we agree with the ambassador from Caymarnia that the metaphysical discussion should be unnecessary, unfortunately the resolution we are voting on does include a -- rather circular, we must say -- definition of "worker" and accordingly we must treat that definition as binding on the rest of its text.

Should the resolution fail and the author subsequently wish to submit an amended version, we would encourage the author to strike the definition in its entirety. While there are nuances in labor law that may require definitions in certain contexts, such as when contractors are hired, we are doubtful that such distinctions are needed here.

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URA World Assembly Affairs
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Founded: Jul 09, 2021
Left-wing Utopia

Postby URA World Assembly Affairs » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:57 pm

The United Regions Alliance recommends voting against this resolution. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1599303
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Amerion
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Founded: Mar 21, 2014
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Amerion » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:43 pm

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The South Pacific's World Assembly Delegation has cast the Coalition's vote FOR this proposed resolution, Health and Safety Act, and warmly encourages fellow member regions to vote FOR.

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'No Rec' or No Recommendation indicates a vote where, in the absence of a recommendation from the Office of WA Legislation, the Admiral Delegate General voted according to the majority stance of World Assembly members in the South Pacific.
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Tinhampton
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Founded: Oct 05, 2016
Anarchy

Postby Tinhampton » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:42 am

"Health and Safety Act" was defeated 9,334 votes to 5,119. (35.42% support)
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Alistia
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Founded: Dec 14, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Alistia » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:23 am

Goobergunchia wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:There were no comments on this thread at all in the week-and-a-half between Alistia accepting my rewrite and submitting it.

I noted the issue with clause 1 an hour after submission, when it would have been completely reasonable to pull the proposal and revise it. Sorry for not catching it sooner? (I likely just quickly skimmed the thread on the 8th, given that it was in my post-Labor Day forum catchup and there was nothing suggesting that the author was preparing to submit.)

This has been an OOC post.

OOC:
That is fair enough.
I did consider withdrawing at that time, but as I had already purchased telegram stamps and sent out a message to delegates, decided to leave it be and see what feedback others had.
I'd say that was the right call, as the general consensus has been that most of those who voted against it did so just due to some wording issues, not actually being against the idea of the proposal itself.

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Alistia
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Founded: Dec 14, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Alistia » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:24 am

The WA Delegation of Alistia will take time to read and review all feedback that has been given, and will have a revised version of the proposal written and ready for feedback in the near future.

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Tinhampton
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Anarchy

Postby Tinhampton » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:57 am

IC and OOC - best of luck.

(OOC: Redrafts of defeated proposals are typically posted in new threads :P)
The Self-Administrative City of TINHAMPTON (pop. 319,372): Saffron Howard, Mayor (UCP); Alexander Smith, WA Delegate-Ambassador

Authorships & co-authorships: SC#250, SC#251, Issue #1115, SC#267, GA#484, GA#491, GA#533, GA#540, GA#549, SC#356, GA#559, GA#562, GA#567, GA#578
Other achievements: Cup of Harmony 73 champions; Philosopher-Queen of Sophia; possibly very controversial; "Tinhampton? the man's literally god"
Who am I, really? 46yo Tory woman w/Asperger's; Cambridge graduate; currently reading National Populism by Roger Eatwell and Matthew Goodwin

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