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Widen Manual Recruitment Filter

Postby The Nation of the People of the Nation » Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:30 pm

As of late, manual recruitment telegrams have taken longer to deliver than API and Stamp telegrams.

I've run a few experiments where I make a puppet and immediately send a tg to it, and in the majority of cases the api or stamp tg from Europeia comes before my manual tg sent seconds after the nation was founded.

Through anecdotal evidence this seems to be a game wide issue. So is it possible for the filter to be widened and for more manual recruitment tgs to be delivered per minute?

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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:45 pm

When a recruitment telegram is sent, it goes into one of three queues: the Stamp queue, the API queue and the Manual queue. Delivery is rotated between these queues to give each an equal chance. Your anecdotal evidence is just that.

Because almost no-one send manual recruitment TGs (less than a hundred sent in the last week), they are much more likely to be amongst the first-received telegrams compared to Stamps/API-sent recruitment telegrams, because there likely isn't anyone ahead of you in that queue.

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Postby The Nation of the People of the Nation » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:06 pm

Sedgistan wrote:Because almost no-one send manual recruitment TGs (less than a hundred sent in the last week), they are much more likely to be amongst the first-received telegrams compared to Stamps/API-sent recruitment telegrams, because there likely isn't anyone ahead of you in that queue.

What do you mean by "less than a hundred sent in the last week?" There are ~350 in the queue.

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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:20 pm

I mean exactly what I say. Where's your information coming from?

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Postby Galiantus III » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:24 pm

Going by the tgqueue shard of the API, this is what the telegram queue looks like right now:

Manual: 374
Stamps: 52422
API: 7274

So for someone currently recruiting, the chances of a manual telegram reaching its recipient is an order of magnitude better than API, and API is an order of magnitude better than stamps. From what I've seen there are fluctuations in the relative effectiveness of stamps and API, but manual is consistently superior to both. Of course, the reason it ends up not being used as much as the others is people don't like work, and dealing with the rate limit can get pretty annoying.
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Postby The Nation of the People of the Nation » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:25 pm

Sedgistan wrote:I mean exactly what I say. Where's your information coming from?

That Europeia alone has sent nearly 2000 this week alone?

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Postby Wayneactia » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:30 pm

The Nation of the People of the Nation wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:I mean exactly what I say. Where's your information coming from?

That Europeia alone has sent nearly 2000 this week alone?

How exactly do you know this?

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Postby The Nation of the People of the Nation » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:39 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
The Nation of the People of the Nation wrote:That Europeia alone has sent nearly 2000 this week alone?

How exactly do you know this?

We have a tool that keeps track of how many tgs our recruiters have sent.

Anyways I alone have sent about 300 in the past week, the 100 number makes no sense.

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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:47 pm

The Nation of the People of the Nation wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:How exactly do you know this?

We have a tool that keeps track of how many tgs our recruiters have sent.

Anyways I alone have sent about 300 in the past week, the 100 number makes no sense.

Thanks. Mods have access to some internal data on TGs, and the "less than 100" figure is what it's showing for Manual. It's also showing 0 manual recruitment TGs sent by Europeia in the last 7 days. I can't explain the discrepancy.

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Postby The Nation of the People of the Nation » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:51 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
The Nation of the People of the Nation wrote:We have a tool that keeps track of how many tgs our recruiters have sent.

Anyways I alone have sent about 300 in the past week, the 100 number makes no sense.

Thanks. Mods have access to some internal data on TGs, and the "less than 100" figure is what it's showing for Manual. It's also showing 0 manual recruitment TGs sent by Europeia in the last 7 days. I can't explain the discrepancy.

Interesting, could that perhaps be looked into?

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Postby Bernie » Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:18 pm

Is it possible tag:template TGs are not being treated as manual except on the tgqueue api?

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Postby Refuge Isle » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:09 pm

Eyeballing Refugia's internal records, there should be around 600 this week just from us.
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Postby Homyland » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:56 am

Sedgistan wrote:
The Nation of the People of the Nation wrote:We have a tool that keeps track of how many tgs our recruiters have sent.

Anyways I alone have sent about 300 in the past week, the 100 number makes no sense.

Thanks. Mods have access to some internal data on TGs, and the "less than 100" figure is what it's showing for Manual. It's also showing 0 manual recruitment TGs sent by Europeia in the last 7 days. I can't explain the discrepancy.

I think you're looking at the manual recruitment queue, but TNoTPoTN and Galliantus are looking at the whole manual queue, without any tags.
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Postby The Nation of the People of the Nation » Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:51 am

Homyland wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:Thanks. Mods have access to some internal data on TGs, and the "less than 100" figure is what it's showing for Manual. It's also showing 0 manual recruitment TGs sent by Europeia in the last 7 days. I can't explain the discrepancy.

I think you're looking at the manual recruitment queue, but TNoTPoTN and Galliantus are looking at the whole manual queue, without any tags.

All of our recruitment tgs (any any other UCRs, it's illegal otherwise) are tagged as such.

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Postby The Nation of the People of the Nation » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:30 pm

Has a problem been identified?

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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:58 pm

I'm not yet convinced there's a problem anywhere, aside from with the stats mods get presented with on manual recruitment.


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