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Black group (militia?) causing highway shutdown

Postby Israeli Defense Force » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:42 am

WAKEFIELD, Mass. (AP) — A group of heavily-armed men refused to comply with law enforcement officers following a traffic stop early Saturday morning in Massachusetts, police said.

Eight men armed with rifles and handguns exited a vehicle during a stop along Route 128, Wakefield police said in a statement. The men claimed to be from a group “that does not recognize our laws” and headed into a wooded area.

Massachusetts State Police said the men were “refusing to comply with orders to provide their information and put down their weapons.”

Two suspects were arrested a short time later, the agency tweeted. Officials were still trying to capture others in the group.

Route 95 in Wakefield was shut down in both directions, state police said.

Residents in Wakefield and nearby Reading were advised to lock their doors and shelter in place.

Wakefield police said in its statement that no threats had been made but the men were considered armed and dangerous.


https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Police-Armed-men-who-don-t-recognize-our-laws-16291535.php

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/armed-men-in-standoff-shut-i-95-in-mass-shelter-in-place-for-wakefield-reading/2421271/

One of the armed men has uploaded a video, asserting they did nothing wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMIklIPpyxQ

They belong to a group called "Rise of the Moors" that claims:
The Moors of North America have been branded “black” by European Colonial occupiers of our land in order to strip us of our illustrious history. Our ancient Moabite, Canaanite and Hittite blood lines tie us to the Ancient Olmecs of Central Amexem (America), the Aztecs (Mexica) even the Dogon of Mali. Our ancient ancestors are the possessors of great ancient cities and kingdoms such as Sumer, Mari, Timbuktu, Carthage, Córdoba, Mauritania (North Africa) and Tamari (Egypt / Kemet). Our disconnect from recognizing our ancient blood line, nationality and heritage is the very reason why the Pale-Skin-Black-Nations-of-Europe have been administrating the earth and we have been suffering.

http://www.riseofthemoors.org/

Luckily police are saying they want to resolve the situation peacefully.

What I wonder: is this another case of black Americans being stopped by police while going about their day?

Or, being armed and not recognizing the law (allegedly), do they constitute a hostile militia?

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Postby Baltenstein » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:21 am

The Moors of North America have been branded “black” by European Colonial occupiers of our land in order to strip us of our illustrious history. Our ancient Moabite, Canaanite and Hittite blood lines tie us to the Ancient Olmecs of Central Amexem (America), the Aztecs (Mexica) even the Dogon of Mali. Our ancient ancestors are the possessors of great ancient cities and kingdoms such as Sumer, Mari, Timbuktu, Carthage, Córdoba, Mauritania (North Africa) and Tamari (Egypt / Kemet). Our disconnect from recognizing our ancient blood line, nationality and heritage is the very reason why the Pale-Skin-Black-Nations-of-Europe have been administrating the earth and we have been suffering.


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Postby Absolon-7 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:16 am

The Moors of North America have been branded “black” by European Colonial occupiers of our land in order to strip us of our illustrious history. Our ancient Moabite, Canaanite and Hittite blood lines tie us to the Ancient Olmecs of Central Amexem (America), the Aztecs (Mexica) even the Dogon of Mali. Our ancient ancestors are the possessors of great ancient cities and kingdoms such as Sumer, Mari, Timbuktu, Carthage, Córdoba, Mauritania (North Africa) and Tamari (Egypt / Kemet). Our disconnect from recognizing our ancient blood line, nationality and heritage is the very reason why the Pale-Skin-Black-Nations-of-Europe have been administrating the earth and we have been suffering.

This is your brain on pseudo-historical ethnonationalism.

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Postby Braunia » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:24 am

The Moors of North America have been branded “black” by European Colonial occupiers of our land in order to strip us of our illustrious history. Our ancient Moabite, Canaanite and Hittite blood lines tie us to the Ancient Olmecs of Central Amexem (America), the Aztecs (Mexica) even the Dogon of Mali. Our ancient ancestors are the possessors of great ancient cities and kingdoms such as Sumer, Mari, Timbuktu, Carthage, Córdoba, Mauritania (North Africa) and Tamari (Egypt / Kemet). Our disconnect from recognizing our ancient blood line, nationality and heritage is the very reason why the Pale-Skin-Black-Nations-of-Europe have been administrating the earth and we have been suffering.

I already knew African-Americans had their own Thule societies, but this takes the cake.

I'd imagine these kind of racial supremacy ideas will start getting more popular amongst African-American society considering how loaded the political environment is over there. We've already seem the Kemet meme becoming more popular, and groups like the Black Panther probably harbour some odd esoteric ideas as well behind the masks.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:59 am

My first thought was suspicion at the word 'militia ' and treating them like a threat but they sound like Black Hebrew or Hotep crackpots.
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Postby Chan Island » Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:38 am

Hardly a militia, just 6 armed black men hiding in the woods being pissed off at police. I'm not sure what surprises me more about this. Either that so few black people in America go down this path of revenge or that these men still live.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:28 pm

Sovereign citizens, eat your hearts out :p
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Postby Fahran » Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:54 pm

Based.

A highway shutdown is comparatively minor as far as incidents involving angry men with guns go. This isn't really on par with the Bundy stand-off or the CHAZ at the moment. So long as these gentlemen don't see the need to start getting trigger happy, the police can probably wait them out and then arrest them if they're determined to have committed crimes.
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Postby Fahran » Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:56 pm

Chan Island wrote:Hardly a militia, just 6 armed black men hiding in the woods being pissed off at police. I'm not sure what surprises me more about this. Either that so few black people in America go down this path of revenge or that these men still live.

Eh, it's technically a militia by American standards. It's just a baby militia. But, maybe, if we feed and nurture it properly, it'll grow up to be big and strong.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

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Postby Kowani » Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:25 pm

Fahran wrote:Based.

A highway shutdown is comparatively minor as far as incidents involving angry men with guns go. This isn't really on par with the Bundy stand-off or the CHAZ at the moment. So long as these gentlemen don't see the need to start getting trigger happy, the police can probably wait them out and then arrest them if they're determined to have committed crimes.

they were already arrested
it's in the second article in the OP
this incident ended already
hell, the highwayis already open again
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:27 pm

I believe they where arrested for not following state gun transportation laws.
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Postby New Antarcticania » Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:29 pm

We are Moorish Americans dedicated to educating new Moors and influencing our Elders.

I think they're educating them on something, alright
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Postby Xmara » Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:35 pm

Braunia wrote:
The Moors of North America have been branded “black” by European Colonial occupiers of our land in order to strip us of our illustrious history. Our ancient Moabite, Canaanite and Hittite blood lines tie us to the Ancient Olmecs of Central Amexem (America), the Aztecs (Mexica) even the Dogon of Mali. Our ancient ancestors are the possessors of great ancient cities and kingdoms such as Sumer, Mari, Timbuktu, Carthage, Córdoba, Mauritania (North Africa) and Tamari (Egypt / Kemet). Our disconnect from recognizing our ancient blood line, nationality and heritage is the very reason why the Pale-Skin-Black-Nations-of-Europe have been administrating the earth and we have been suffering.

I already knew African-Americans had their own Thule societies, but this takes the cake.

I'd imagine these kind of racial supremacy ideas will start getting more popular amongst African-American society considering how loaded the political environment is over there. We've already seem the Kemet meme becoming more popular, and groups like the Black Panther probably harbour some odd esoteric ideas as well behind the masks.

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Xmara wrote:
Braunia wrote:I already knew African-Americans had their own Thule societies, but this takes the cake.

I'd imagine these kind of racial supremacy ideas will start getting more popular amongst African-American society considering how loaded the political environment is over there. We've already seem the Kemet meme becoming more popular, and groups like the Black Panther probably harbour some odd esoteric ideas as well behind the masks.

What is that meme?

The Ancient Egyptian race controversy, I'll just link the Wikipedia article on it because it's a pretty wild discussion that's hard to explain.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:32 pm

A bit of background on these sorts of groups

Sovereign citizens believe that a conspiracy subverted and replaced the original U.S. government with an illegitimate “de facto” government, but that people can take steps to divorce themselves from the illegitimate government, after which its laws, taxes, regulations and courts have no more authority over them.

These rumors were soon confirmed—though it is clear that Long’s beliefs also extend far beyond the sovereign citizen movement into other areas as well—with the Kansas City Star unearthing sovereign citizen documents filed by Long that indicated an affiliation with the “Washitaw Nation,” one of many concepts associated with the so-called “Moorish movement,” or “Moorish sovereign movement,” an offshoot of the sovereign citizen movement that combines longstanding sovereign citizen beliefs and tactics with some newer, primarily Afrocentric notions.

Moorish sovereign citizens emerged in the mid-1990s on the East Coast when some people began to merge sovereign citizen ideas with some of the beliefs of the Moorish Science Temple, a religious sect dating back to 1913. As sovereign citizen notions attracted more Moorish Science Temple adherents, the Moorish sovereign movement was born. While still retaining most “traditional” sovereign citizen pseudo-historical and pseudo-legal theories, Moorish sovereigns added new ideas, including the notion that African-Americans had special rights because of a 1780s treaty with Morocco, as well as the belief that African-Americans were descended from African “Moors”—and often as well the belief that African-Americans were also a people indigenous to the Americas. hrough the late 1990s and early 2000s, the Moorish sovereign citizen movement grew, generating a large number of groups and gurus to promote Moorish sovereign ideas, it also absorbed other black sovereign groups that had begun independently. The most important of these was the Washitaw Nation, which began in the mid-1990s in Louisiana, started by the “Empress” Verdiacee “Tiara” Washitaw-Turner Goston El-Bey, who claimed to head the Washitaw Empire. Washitaw Nation adherents claimed to be descended from the ancient mound-builders of the Mississippi-Missouri Valley and to actually own the Louisiana Purchase.

After the “Empress” retired, the original Washitaw group fell apart, replaced with a variety of different groups and individuals taking up the “Washitaw Nation” mantle. So today there is not just one “Washitaw Nation,” but many, making it one of the most important wings of the Moorish sovereign citizen movement.

Since 2009, the sovereign citizen movement has experienced a major resurgence, including among African-Americans. Both Moorish and non-Moorish sovereign citizen ideas have spread rapidly within the African-American community, aided by social media websites such as YouTube and Facebook. Moorish and non-Moorish sovereign ideas alike have also spread in prisons and jails across the country.

Most sovereign citizens are still white, but in a number of cities with large African-American populations such as Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia and others, African-Americans now comprise the majority of sovereign citizens. Moorish sovereign citizens can today be found in any area with a substantial African-American population.

Key Attributes of the Moorish Sovereign Citizen Movement

Moorish sovereign citizens engage in the same criminal activities as “traditional” sovereign citizens do, including crimes of violence (including against police); scams and frauds; and so-called “paper terrorism” tactics, which typically involves the use of various documents and filings to harass, intimidate and retaliate against police officers, public officials, and others.
There is still much overlap between the Moorish sovereign citizen movement and the Moorish Science Temple (one reason many Moorish sovereigns add the words –El or –Bey to their names), but not all Moorish Science Temple adherents are sovereign citizens and some vocally oppose sovereign beliefs.
There are also African-American sovereign citizens who do not adopt specifically Moorish sovereign beliefs but only “traditional” sovereign citizen notions.
Many Moorish sovereign citizens also promote various Afrocentric “New Age” beliefs and concepts.
Though the Moorish sovereign movement is primarily African-American in composition, there are a few white people associated with Moorish groups. Moreover, Moorish sovereign citizens are not necessarily black separatists nor necessarily connected with other black extremist groups (though there is a small amount of overlap).
Like traditional sovereign citizens, Moorish sovereign citizens are heavily reliant upon sovereign “gurus,” who come up with and promote the movement’s ideas and tactics. Some prominent Moorish sovereign gurus include Taj Tarik Bey; Abdul Ali Muhammad Bey; Queen Vallahra Renita EL Harre,Bey; Irving “Hendo” Henderson; and Washitaw Nation figures Wendy Farica Washitaw and Fredrix “Joe” Washington (granddaughter and son of the “Empress” Verdiacee), among others. Many Moorish sovereign citizens may also follow “traditional” sovereign gurus; of these, David-Wynn Miller seems to be rather influential among some Moorish sovereigns.
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Postby Adamede » Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:34 pm

Fahran wrote:
Chan Island wrote:Hardly a militia, just 6 armed black men hiding in the woods being pissed off at police. I'm not sure what surprises me more about this. Either that so few black people in America go down this path of revenge or that these men still live.

Eh, it's technically a militia by American standards. It's just a baby militia. But, maybe, if we feed and nurture it properly, it'll grow up to be big and strong.

Considering the condition of most people I’ve seen in these “militias” they take the feeding part a bit too seriously.
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Waiting for the NRA to protest about patriotic Americans harassed by police while exercizing their sacred Second Amendment rights...waiting...waiting...

Waiting for white supremacists militias cruising down the highways to get held up by police...waiting...waiting...
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Postauthoritarian America wrote:Waiting for the NRA to protest about patriotic Americans harassed by police while exercizing their sacred Second Amendment rights...waiting...waiting...

Waiting for white supremacists militias cruising down the highways to get held up by police...waiting...waiting...

This is the left-right unity we all want. Do it for the memes.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:49 pm

Black Hebrew Israelites are a bit nutty. Many members are overtly racist and are so jumbled up by their nonsense that it makes flat earthers seem tame. Mix in a little sovereign citizen and we are in qanon territory.
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They're nuts and probably black supremacists, but this is a non-event in my view.
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Postauthoritarian America wrote:Waiting for the NRA to protest about patriotic Americans harassed by police while exercizing their sacred Second Amendment rights...waiting...waiting...

Waiting for white supremacists militias cruising down the highways to get held up by police...waiting...waiting...

The police are hardly gonna arrest themselves, PAA.
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Fahran wrote:
Postauthoritarian America wrote:Waiting for the NRA to protest about patriotic Americans harassed by police while exercizing their sacred Second Amendment rights...waiting...waiting...

Waiting for white supremacists militias cruising down the highways to get held up by police...waiting...waiting...

This is the left-right unity we all want. Do it for the memes.


What is wanted is for whites with guns to be treated the same as Blacks with guns and Blacks without guns to be treated the same as whites without guns...waiting...waiting
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