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Is religion going to make a comback?

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Future of religion

Postby Rightus » Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:24 am

Do you think that religion is going to make a comeback in the next couple of years?
Is it going to gain popularity or not?

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Postby Ankuran » Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:30 am

I wasn't aware it was ever on the downslope.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:35 am

Rightus wrote:Do you think that religion is going to make a comeback in the next couple of years?
Is it going to gain popularity or not?


Comeback from what?

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Postby Alabut » Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:40 am

Jesus, If religion is on the downturn, What the hell is the Comeback?
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:44 am

Religion has never had "to make a comeback" outside of more Western, more secularised societies.
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:15 am

Barring some major disasters, people will probably continue to fall away from religion just as they've been doing for decades in an increasingly secular world.

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Postby Kilobugya » Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:20 am

On the short-term, perhaps, due to the bad situation the world currently is - increase of economical inequality, threat of climate change, raise of right-wing "populism", ... but on the long term, no, religion will slow disappear into irrelevance. It's a relic of bygone age, before the Enlightenment, before the scientific method, before our modern understanding of the universe, that only survives due to its powerful memetic capacities and a vastly imperfect society.
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Postby Vikanias » Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:20 am

I mean, I don’t think so, ever since the late 80’s and maybe late 70’s religion has decreased. It’s simply not needed in modern secular society. And since mass debt. We literally killing ourselves and our planet. Multiple economic disasters in 2 decades, and much more has made people loose faith overall.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:25 am

I don't think reason can triumph in a world where people are dumb enough to believe in Jewish space lasers and QAnon.
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:28 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I don't think reason can triumph in a world where people are dumb enough to believe in Jewish space lasers and QAnon.

iirc, a lot of the most hardcore conspiracy theorists are also the people who are also super religious.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:01 am

Dakini wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I don't think reason can triumph in a world where people are dumb enough to believe in Jewish space lasers and QAnon.

iirc, a lot of the most hardcore conspiracy theorists are also the people who are also super religious.


That wouldn't surprise me.
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Postby Terra Nova Sapientia » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:15 am

I don't know but it seems to be that Religion is in decline within western societies but I've read articles that Islam is rapidly growing in number of followers around the world.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:31 am

Alabut wrote:Jesus, If religion is on the downturn, What the hell is the Comeback?


Conspiracy theories.
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Postby Terra Nova Sapientia » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:35 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Alabut wrote:Jesus, If religion is on the downturn, What the hell is the Comeback?


Conspiracy theories.


We just need some serious disaster this year then fund the revelationists
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:54 am

Vikanias wrote:I mean, I don’t think so, ever since the late 80’s and maybe late 70’s religion has decreased. It’s simply not needed in modern secular society. And since mass debt. We literally killing ourselves and our planet. Multiple economic disasters in 2 decades, and much more has made people loose faith overall.


No it hasn't? Globally, religion never stop growing. For every European guy turning to atheism, there's like 10 asian guys converting to Christianity. Not to mention Africa, S.America etc.

Atheism is a niche belief and will remain a niche belief in the future. For better or for worse.

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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:58 am

-Ocelot- wrote:
Vikanias wrote:I mean, I don’t think so, ever since the late 80’s and maybe late 70’s religion has decreased. It’s simply not needed in modern secular society. And since mass debt. We literally killing ourselves and our planet. Multiple economic disasters in 2 decades, and much more has made people loose faith overall.


No it hasn't? Globally, religion never stop growing. For every European guy turning to atheism, there's like 10 asian guys converting to Christianity. Not to mention Africa, S.America etc.

Atheism is a niche belief and will remain a niche belief in the future. For better or for worse.

I,don’t think that this will convince extremely American-centrist users of this site

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:59 am

Religion is technically doomed to change. Today's religion is tomorrow's mythology.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:05 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
No it hasn't? Globally, religion never stop growing. For every European guy turning to atheism, there's like 10 asian guys converting to Christianity. Not to mention Africa, S.America etc.

Atheism is a niche belief and will remain a niche belief in the future. For better or for worse.

I,don’t think that this will convince extremely American-centrist users of this site


The numbers don't lie, though. I am also an atheist but I'm not going to ride this hype train just because it feels good to make up "progress" out of thin air. Especially when said progress isn't even progress, but rather bigotry against religion.

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Postby Dakini » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:38 am

-Ocelot- wrote:
Vikanias wrote:I mean, I don’t think so, ever since the late 80’s and maybe late 70’s religion has decreased. It’s simply not needed in modern secular society. And since mass debt. We literally killing ourselves and our planet. Multiple economic disasters in 2 decades, and much more has made people loose faith overall.


No it hasn't? Globally, religion never stop growing. For every European guy turning to atheism, there's like 10 asian guys converting to Christianity. Not to mention Africa, S.America etc.

Atheism is a niche belief and will remain a niche belief in the future. For better or for worse.

Do you have a source for these claims? Christianity is on the decline and is expected to be overtaken by Islam, while people unaffiliated with religion are a growing population. The main source of additional Christians is also not conversions to the religion, but "natural increase" (e.g. people being born and their parents encouraging them to be Christian).

Granted, the Muslim grouping also includes people who are really unaffiliated but can't officially de-convert since apostasy is a crime in some parts of the world and the Catholic church will also refuse to recognize people who leave the faith unless they get their baptism expunged so some religions are sort of falsely bolstering their numbers through coercion or bureaucracy.
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:55 am

I don't know what the future of religion looks like but I can tell that a future religion would have much beefier OPs than what has been presented here.

I don't think religion as a concept will ever go away, though. While nothing lasts forever, I'm sure people wanting simple explanations for a complicated world would never go away so long as people still exist.
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Postby The State of Bangladesh » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:23 am

Terra Nova Sapientia wrote:I don't know but it seems to be that Religion is in decline within western societies but I've read articles that Islam is rapidly growing in number of followers around the world.


At this rate only two religions are gonna remain; Atheism and Islam.
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Postby Terra Nova Sapientia » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:35 am

The State of Bangladesh wrote:
Terra Nova Sapientia wrote:I don't know but it seems to be that Religion is in decline within western societies but I've read articles that Islam is rapidly growing in number of followers around the world.


At this rate only two religions are gonna remain; Atheism and Islam.


Perhaps. Europe would be either an Atheistic continent or have a more liberal form of Christianity. Islam seems to grow through population booms in industrializing islamic nations such as Indonesia or Pakistan while for those Christians still cling on to their original traditions, North America is the best place for them. The US maintains a large devout Christian population (especially Evangelical Christians), perhaps America should be called Jesusland
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Postby Isles of Eamhna » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:44 am

Things are pretty primed for the springing of new religious movements forward tbh
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Postby Endem » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:46 am

Well, the current religions are or will soon be on the decline, and something else will over take them, the fact they're ancient means nothing, as even ancient things can fall, but I think something else will overtake them. Personally I believe that the "new-age cults" are the first wave of what I like to call "deceptive religion" or religion that tries to convince you it isn't actually a religion to avoid prosecution for their behaviors due to the population becoming increasingly secular and hostile to religion seeing it as a figure of past oppression, and those "deceptive religions" are the future of religions. Unfortunately, I don't think religion will disappear and the only thing I am kinda hoping for is that some part of science will become so complicated to the layman that it will appear as mystical, and so a religion of science will arise.

But what do I know, I'm just sleep-deprived.
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Postby Hispida » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:13 am

The State of Bangladesh wrote:
Terra Nova Sapientia wrote:I don't know but it seems to be that Religion is in decline within western societies but I've read articles that Islam is rapidly growing in number of followers around the world.


At this rate only two religions are gonna remain; Atheism and Islam.

Is atheism a religion...?
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