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Battle of Thar City (OOC | TWI Only)

Postby Athara Magarat » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:21 am



The Battle of Thar City is a major ongoing military confrontation in Thar City, the third largest city in Ipachi State, between various Khas-Kirati militias against the Ipachi State government supported by Razzgriz and against San Montagna. The battle began on 1 July 2021.



After the Imperial War (1941 - 1948), southeastern Vendriothos was occupied by Razzgriz and San Montagna occupied the Chatha region while rest of the Free Powers occupied western Vendriothos. The San Montagnan occupation zone became part of the country whereas Razzgriz created the Ipachi State in their occupation zone.

In 1948, the League Mission in Argus (LEMIA) was established to monitor the transition of Khas-Kirat Empire to the Khas-Kirati Republic and supervise the demilitarization of Vendriothos. Within a year, the mission's objectives were expanded to prevent troops and weapons from entering the newly-declared Ipachi State that was hostile to both the Khas-Kirati Republic and San Montagna.

In 1950, the 30th Parallel War broke out between the Ipachi State and San Montagna due to border disputes. Both sides invaded southern parts of the demilitarized Khas-Kirati Republic. The League of the Western Isles approved the formation of the paramilitary Armed Police Force (APF) for national self-defense with training from LEMIA troops. The 30th Parallel War resulted in a military stalemate but the conflict never ended officially as there was no peace treaty and preventing conflict between all sides involved was added to the list of LEMIA's objectives.

In 1960s, various armed Chathaese groups (supported by San Montagna and TBD), started their ongoing war against the Ipachi State. Emboldened by the success of Chathaese rebels and angry at the Free Powers for not delivering the promise of an independent Khumbu nation, the ongoing Khumbuwani Insurgency started during 1970s in northeastern Vendriothos. By 1980s, the Khumbuwani Insurgency spread to southern Torom and Khumbu-majority areas of Segentova. LEMIA's objectives were further expanded to assist the APF in bringing security and stability to rebel-dominated areas.

Thar City was Ipachi State's third largest city with a population of over 1 million. Various writers described the city as "a multicultural complex mix of various Khas-Kirati groups, mostly the Chepangs of Chatha region, overlaid on an Argean Ipachi base of predominately Tharu clans."

While the Ipachi State faced an active Chathaese rebellion, it was mostly active only in rural areas and Thar City had remained undisturbed for decades until 1 July 2021, when rebel fighters from border towns and villages in San Montagnan Chatha converged and penetrated into it. The Ipachi State, supported by Razzgriz, responded with heavy-handed and indiscriminate bombardment of the city.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:16 am

If you are confused -

Vendriothos: The Ancient Roendavarian name for "mainland Magarat". Keep in mind, Magarat is an exonym. Within "Magarat", the term only refers to stuff related to a certain dynasty. The Khas-Kirati historically called their country Divine Corinthusi Empire or Hanglaw (from 918 - 1918) and Khas-Kirat Empire (from 1938 - 1948) and currently call it "Khas-Kirati Republic". ICly, the terms "Magarati" or even "Atharan" is used by foreigners. OOCly, I don't mind but Khas-Kirati is preferrable.

Chathaese: People of the Chatha region. Another name for the Chepang people, who belong to the Central Kirati language group. The terms Chathaese and Chepang are interchangeable. Around 60% - 70% of Chathaese are Catholic Christians (due to San Montagnan influence and Hangate of Chatha historically being a Christian nation) while the rest are Oelasthiriasi Protacists. The Protacist ones almost all want to join with the Khas-Kirati Republic while most of the Catholic ones want to join San Montagna (which already has a significant number of Chathaese population...well, those dang nab San Montagnans stole Khas-Kirati territory after Imperial War!!!)
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Postby San Montagna » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:24 pm

Time to reunite Chatha. :)
Been a while since i've been involved in any RPs as well.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:54 pm

San Montagna wrote:Time to reunite Chatha. :)
Been a while since i've been involved in any RPs as well.

Yeah, both of us, my dear friend.

I assume your role did be similar to that of Turkey in Syria.

Say you want to create a "safe zone for Chathaese" and actually invade western parts of Thar City.
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Postby San Montagna » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:45 pm

Athara Magarat wrote:Yeah, both of us, my dear friend.

I assume your role did be similar to that of Turkey in Syria.

Say you want to create a "safe zone for Chathaese" and actually invade western parts of Thar City.


Yeah that's the route I wanna take, probably after some political posturing and threats though.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:18 pm

My next post will mostly likely be my foreign minister talking to various ambassadors to the Khas-Kirati Republic about a League resolution to solve this before shit hits the fan and get LEMIA involved.
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Postby Domanania » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:25 am

As a nation that has some historical, cultural, ethnic, (and probably economic ties) to the modern Khas-Kirati Republic, should everything start to escalate more, Domanania would start throwing their support behind the KK-republic.

Domanania would support a peaceful resolution for this conflict, but is not opposed to helping get the resolution the hard way.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:08 am

Domanania wrote:As a nation that has some historical, cultural, ethnic, (and probably economic ties) to the modern Khas-Kirati Republic, should everything start to escalate more, Domanania would start throwing their support behind the KK-republic.

Domanania would support a peaceful resolution for this conflict, but is not opposed to helping get the resolution the hard way.

Technically, KK Republic would not be participating in this at all. We also have no army. You are free to support any of the various KK rebel groups.

I will make a belligerents table soon to make things more clear.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:02 am

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ath ... id=1565013

Okay, here's the sides

Belligerents 1

This is basically Razzgriz + their puppet state Ipachi State. Maybe even some Razzgriz allies. For now, we have Tharu clansmen in the Marubhumi Gun (taking the name from the historical entity that was both an administrative division and military unit) fighting to defend the city.

Right now, Ipachi State is mostly relying on its border patrols and Thar City Police...and they are losing badly. The Ipachi State army was expected to arrive from Kamatpur and Star City within two days after July 1st but heavy rains slowed them down. Nonetheless, Khas-Kirati Republic sources report that Ipachi State army has sent attack helicopters to shell rebel-held neighborhoods in Thar City.

Razzgriz's plans are to ensure they win this Battle of Thar City so that they can eventually annex Ipachi State without hassle.

Belligerents 2

This is basically San Montagna + armed Catholic Chathaese rebel groups. The Chatha Company has always been funded by San Montagna since the 30th Parallel War. It spent most of its history fighting its rivals in Gaidu Guard and Ipachi State security forces in rural areas. In 2021, the Chatha Company and Gaidu Guard set aside their differences to launch a "united Chathaese war and summoned fighters from San Montagnana Chatha" against the Ipachi State. That said, they are not exactly allies yet and have different goals. Chatha Company seeks to join San Montagna if they take over Thar City while the Gaidu Guard seek to join the Khas-Kirati Republic.

Army of South Chatha is the name for fighters from San Montagnan Chatha who started crossing the 30th Parallel North Line in large numbers. Their presence has been instrumental in Chatha Company and other Chathaese rebel groups being on the victorious side so far.

San Montagna has raised it soldiers along the 30th Parallel and they have allowed or even encouraged their Chathaese youths to join the fight in Thar City. San Montagna sees itself as a successor state of the Catholic Hangate of Chatha and claims all former Chathaese territories as its own.

Belligerents 3

Gaidu Guard has been mostly explained above. They are Oelasthiriasi Protacists, in contrast to the Catholic Chatha Company and the Army of South Chatha. Right now, Gaidu Guard is "semi-allies" with Chatha Company and fighting alongside arrivals from San Montagnan Chatha. However, they are absolutely against the notion of any San Montagnan soldiers showing up in Thar City to "liberate Chatha and annex it". The Gaidu Guard and the Kusunda clan are allied with each other.

The Kusundas are an Argean Ipachi tribe who had historically been vassals of the larger Tharu clans and their hangates. Historically, they allied with Khas-Kirati tribes time and again to gain their independence only to be subjugated by another Tharu clan again. Despite being an Argean Ipachi tribe, their language has been banned and their culture is being erased (same thing is happening to the Chathaese) by Tharu authorities in the region. The Kusundas, like the Gaidu Guard, wish to join the Khas-Kirati Republic.

There are various other smaller Khas-Kirati militias but those are unimportant.
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Postby Wellsia » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:13 am

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Postby The Tsunterlands » Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:40 am

As i mentioned before I'd be interested in getting involved as the Tsunterlands would have likely established a relationship with the Chathese in 1960s when it faced troubles with its own Ipachi population. Tsunter is aware that the longer the battle goes on for the greater chance that it might increase militancy with its own Ipachi population who probably feel a degree of solidarity with their northern kin. Tsunter would also be deeply opposed to anymore League involvement in Argus however. The other consideration is I'm not sure the Tsunter government would be too keen on supporting San Montagnan irredentism. Potentially Tsunter could support the Gaidu Guard and the Kusundas (although they are Ipachi too), were they involved in the rebelling in the 1960s at all?
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Postby Domanania » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:20 am

So reading over everything, i believe Domanania would have been supporting the Gaidu Guard in their pursuit to join the KK Republic. They would have been supporting the group with arms and munitions from about the time they made their goals known to join the KK republic.

Even if there is a controversy from the Peacekeeping forces there to maintain the status quo, while also funding one of the groups we are technically fighting. But the Gaidu guard are definitely the ones Domanania would support unofficially. I'd even be willing to work out the levels of this in regards to LEMIA.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:44 am

The Tsunterlands wrote:As i mentioned before I'd be interested in getting involved as the Tsunterlands would have likely established a relationship with the Chathese in 1960s when it faced troubles with its own Ipachi population. Tsunter is aware that the longer the battle goes on for the greater chance that it might increase militancy with its own Ipachi population who probably feel a degree of solidarity with their northern kin. Tsunter would also be deeply opposed to anymore League involvement in Argus however. The other consideration is I'm not sure the Tsunter government would be too keen on supporting San Montagnan irredentism. Potentially Tsunter could support the Gaidu Guard and the Kusundas (although they are Ipachi too), were they involved in the rebelling in the 1960s at all?

Domanania wrote:So reading over everything, i believe Domanania would have been supporting the Gaidu Guard in their pursuit to join the KK Republic. They would have been supporting the group with arms and munitions from about the time they made their goals known to join the KK republic.

Even if there is a controversy from the Peacekeeping forces there to maintain the status quo, while also funding one of the groups we are technically fighting. But the Gaidu guard are definitely the ones Domanania would support unofficially. I'd even be willing to work out the levels of this in regards to LEMIA.

Added both of you as "supporters" of Gaidu Guard

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ath ... id=1565013

The Khas-Kirati Republic is itself staying out of this and too powerless to do anything but they would love to see more folks supporting Gaidu Guard and various smaller KK militias.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:37 am

For anyone who wants to create a Chathaese character -

The Chepangs are a "one-clan" tribe. All nobles belonged to the Praja clan (who also ruled the Hangate of Chatha) while the commoners, former nobles who revoked their titles and bastard lineages who took the tribal name Chepang as their last name.

This meant that Chepangs historically married non-Chepangs exclusively (marriages between Praja clan nobles and commoners with Chepang surname could have existed but were rare) due to the Khas-Kirati tradition of everyone with the same clan name being "brothers and sisters" no matter how distant. Which means that most Chepangs married either San Montagnans (specifically if they were Christian) or other Khas-Kiratis and Argean Ipachis (such as members of the Kusunda clan).

San Montagnan Chathaese (Chathaese and Chepang is same thing) are almost all Catholic Christians. Even in northern Chatha (which lies in Khas-Kirati Republic and Ipachi State), the Chepangs are mostly Catholics with Oelasthiriasi Protacists being the minority.

Italian and/or Biblical Christian first names + Praja / Chepang / or non-Chathaese mother's last name (this is a new phenomenon) is the way for creating Catholic Chathaese characters
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Postby Aizcona » Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:06 pm

Once LEMIA gets involved I can do stuff with the EAF
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Postby Athara Magarat » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:04 am

Aizcona wrote:Once LEMIA gets involved I can do stuff with the EAF

That might take some time since League has its hands full on ecocide right now
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Postby Athara Magarat » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:19 pm

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=337003&p=38839868#p38839868

Relevant news to keep things updating
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Postby Keomora » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:35 pm

Damn I need to get involved in this.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:28 pm

Keomora wrote:Damn I need to get involved in this.

Welcome :)

Also, here's the brief Battle of Tallo Sano Bridge

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Postby Keomora » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:17 pm

Alright I am going to start an IC post introducing the humanitarian group but starting first with a news post about an agreement with Keomora and local governments allowing for humanitarian aid to arrive, and assurances that they their neutrality will be recognized and protected, and that they have have permission to be escorted by neutral security forces (PMC), is that okay AM Athara Magarat?
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Postby Athara Magarat » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:10 pm

Keomora wrote:Alright I am going to start an IC post introducing the humanitarian group but starting first with a news post about an agreement with Keomora and local governments allowing for humanitarian aid to arrive, and assurances that they their neutrality will be recognized and protected, and that they have have permission to be escorted by neutral security forces (PMC), is that okay AM Athara Magarat?

Official line from Ipachi State and Razzgriz would be that "things are under control". We would need for League to authorize LEMIA and others into Thar City before anything.

Perhaps, till then, you can RP as Keomoran humanitarian workers arriving at the Khas-Kirati Republic's borders? There would be many people from Thar City and nearby towns/villages crossing into Khas-Kirati Republic. Your folks could be helping the Armed Police Force at the border.
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Postby Keomora » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:28 pm

Okay so game plan. Humanitarian group arrives in souther border region to help. However after a period of free time, the group is invited to Thar City after a prominent member is invited to a luncheon by a family member. However in that event Chathese Rebels launch a raid, which results with some Keomoran aid workers dead and the rest taken hostages alongside Ipachi tribe members. The Keomoran government loses its shit, strong arms AM/local government to allow military access to rescue hostages and kill kidnappers and sends a few regiments and squadrons for a search and rescue campaign with serious collateral damage due to air strikes and the like. After succeeding the League chews out Keomora and it’s campaign which results with Keomora leaving both Thar City and LEMIA resulting in a void that inadvertently escalates the conflict.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:49 pm

Razzgriz wrote:First post coming up later this week. It's long overdue.

Might be relevant for you

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=337003&view=unread&sid=dec36a6796178b47e7b568534801663c#unread

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Postby Aizcona » Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:27 pm

I might bust into the League with this
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