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[PASSED] Declaration on Hippopotamuses

Postby Bears Armed » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:04 pm

(OOC: as a tribute to the very early history of the NS-UN...)

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Declaration on Hippopotamuses

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Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

The World Assembly,

Aware that species of animals can differ considerably from each other in terms of their members' average and maximum sizes,

Also aware that the size of an animal can affect how easy it is for people to cope with that animal's presence,

And believing that some nations' governments might benefit from possessing knowledge about certain species' average and maximum adult sizes in order to develop plans for coping with those species before any members of those species enter those nations' territories;

Hereby,
1. Reminds this organization's member-nations that although there were two unsuccessful attempts at passing Hippopotamus-related legislation in the early days of its historic precursor there is currently a total lack of extant WA legislation about Hippopotamuses (hereinafter referred to as "Hippos");

2. Affirms that no true Hippo is a "pygmy";

3. Notes that Hippos can become aggressive towards people, as well as towards other animals, without any warning;

4. Informs all of this organization's member nations that, with known maximum lengths in excess of 16 ½ feet and maximum weights [in the wild] in excess of 4'400 pounds, Hippos are really very large.


FAQ

1.
Q: Why?
A: As it says, in tribute to the verry early days of the NS-UN: "Hippos are really quite large" was a forum meme here for a long time.

(For more information on that history, see:
viewtopic.php?p=38802667#p38802667
viewtopic.php?p=38804958#p38804958
viewtopic.php?p=38806972#p38806972
viewtopic.php?p=38808084#p38808084 )

2.
Q: Is this a joke?
A: . No. It's certainly light-hearted, but I do consider the information contained worth spreading. Bear in mind that _
i/ Hippos, particularly adult males, are known for their argumentativeness. It's thought that they kill more people directly (rather than by transmitting diseases) than any other animal in RL Africa.
ii/ There is already one [RL] nation, situated outside of Africa, where the Hippopotamus is an 'invasive' species! (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamus_in_Colombia )

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Declaration on Hippopotamuses

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Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

The World Assembly,

Aware that species of animals can differ considerably from each other in terms of their members' average and maximum sizes,

Also aware that the size of an animal can affect how easy it is for people to cope with that animal's presence,

And believing that some nations' governments might benefit from possessing knowledge about certain species' average and maximum adult sizes in order to develop plans for coping with those species before any members of those species enter those nations' territories;

Hereby,
0. Reminds this organization's member-nations that there were two unsuccessful attempts at passing Hippopotamus-related legislation in the early days of its historic precursor;

1. Notes the lack of extant WA legislation about Hippopotamuses (hereinafter referred to as "Hippos");


1. Reminds this organization's member-nations that although there were two unsuccessful attempts at passing Hippopotamus-related legislation in the early days of its historic precursor there is currently a total lack of extant WA legislation about Hippopotamuses (hereinafter referred to as "Hippos");

2. Affirms that no true Hippo is a "pygmy";

3. Notes that Hippos can become aggressive towards people, as well as towards other animals, without any warning;

4. Informs all of this organization's member nations that, with known maximum lengths in excess of 16 ½ feet and maximum weights [in the wild] in excess of 4'400 pounds, Hippos are really very large.


Differences from third draft: Clause '0' inserted, clause about walruses dropped, measurements inserted into what is now clause '4'.


Declaration on Hippopotamuses

Category:
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Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

The World Assembly,

Aware that species of animals can differ considerably from each other in terms of their members' average and maximum sizes,

Also aware that the size of an animal can affect how easy it is for people to cope with that animal's presence,

And believing that some nations' governments might benefit from possessing knowledge about certain species' average and maximum adult sizes in order to develop plans for coping with those species before any members of those species enter those nations' territories;

Hereby,
1. Notes the lack of extant WA legislation about Hippopotamuses (hereinafter referred to as "Hippos");

2. Affirms that no true Hippo is a "pygmy";

3. Declares that Hippos are far superior to Walruses;

4. Notes that Hippos can become aggressive towards people, as well as towards other animals, without any warning;

5. Informs all of this organization's member nations that Hippos are really very large.


Differences from second draft: Clauses '1' to '4' inserted, and clause '5' given its current number; clause '5' (as it now is) re-worded lightly, and re-formatted.


Declaration on Hippopotamuses

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Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

The World Assembly,

Aware that species of animals can differ considerably from each other in terms of their members' average and maximum sizes,

Also aware that the size of an animal can affect how easy it is for people to cope with that animal's presence,

And believing that some nations' governments might benefit from possessing knowledge about certain species' average and maximum adult sizes in order to develop plans for coping with those species before any members of those species enter those nations' territories;

Hereby declares that Hippopotamuses are really very large.


Differences from first draft: contents of the "Aware _" & "Also Aware_" clauses switched over with each other.

Declaration on Hippopotamuses

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Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

The World Assembly,

Aware that the size of an animal can affect how easy it is for people to cope with that animal's presence,

Also aware that species of animals can differ considerably from each other in terms of their members' average and maximum sizes,

And believing that some nations' governments might benefit from possessing knowledge about certain species' average and maximum adult sizes in order to develop plans for coping with those species before any members of those species enter those nations' territories;

Hereby declares that Hippopotamuses are really very large.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:50 pm

Full support.

So long as you mention that there also ought to be wizardly men at crosswalks telling oncoming traffic "You shall not pass!".
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Postby Honeydewistania » Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:51 pm

Without this, people would not know that hippopotamuses are really very large. Full support.
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Postby The Python » Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:52 pm

:D

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Postby Eshialand » Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:59 pm

I originally was against the entire concept of declarations and vowed to vote against every single one of them, but hippopotamuses are an issue too big to be ignored. Full support.
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Postby Praeceps » Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:52 pm

Eshialand wrote:I originally was against the entire concept of declarations and vowed to vote against every single one of them, but hippopotamuses are an issue too big to be ignored. Full support.

Don't fat shame the hippopotami! >:(
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:13 am

FULL SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!! HIPPOPOTAMUSES ARE BIG, JUST LIKE THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:24 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Full support.

So long as you mention that there also ought to be wizardly men at crosswalks telling oncoming traffic "You shall not pass!".

Might not the latter perhaps be better left as the subject for a separate Declaration, which somebody else could write? I don't want to appear too greedy so forget the bread.
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Postby TESDAI » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:35 pm

Hippopotamuses are indeed very large, and it needs to be known the world over. Full support.
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Postby Fatimida » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:38 pm

False, hippos are small; everyone calling them big is just indoctrinated
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Fatimida wrote:False, hippos are small; everyone calling them big is just indoctrinated

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Postby Fatimida » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:41 pm

Lies.

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Fatimida wrote:
Lies.

Yes, the lie of hippos being small

No, hippos being small is a lie.
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Postby Dollystana » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:46 pm

Full support, you just made one mistake. You forgot about about pygmy hippos :p
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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:16 am

Dollystana wrote:Full support, you just made one mistake. You forgot about about pygmy hippos :p

No true Hippopotamus is a "pygmy".
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Postby Minskiev » Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:58 pm

But we are bigger.
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Full support. The world cannot be deprived of this information. :p
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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:01 pm

A chucke was heard within the vents as the turtle spoke up from the ceiling.

"This is clever, but it really needs to be specific. How can nations without hippopotamuses learn 'bout their size if it don't specify it?"

"Consider: 'Hereby declare hippopotamuses to be very large. Specfically, an adult hippopotamus can grow to X length in size and weight up to X pounds.""

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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:03 pm

TESDAI wrote:Hippopotamuses are indeed very large, and it needs to be known the world over. Full support.


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Postby Dollystana » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:09 pm

Bears Armed Mission wrote:
Dollystana wrote:Full support, you just made one mistake. You forgot about about pygmy hippos :p

No true Hippopotamus is a "pygmy".
:p

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_hippopotamus
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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:00 am

Dollystana wrote:
Bears Armed Mission wrote:No true Hippopotamus is a "pygmy".
:p

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_hippopotamus

OOC: I was referencing "no true Scotsman"... :lol:

Maybe I should state this in the proposal, so that its ending becomes
Insists that no true Hippopotamus is a "pygmy",

Hereby declares that Hippopotamuses are really very large.
?

EDIT: or would "Asserts" be better than "Insists"?
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Postby Dollystana » Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:18 am

Bears Armed wrote:

OOC: I was referencing "no true Scotsman"... :lol:

Maybe I should state this in the proposal, so that its ending becomes
Insists that no true Hippopotamus is a "pygmy",

Hereby declares that Hippopotamuses are really very large.
?

EDIT: or would "Asserts" be better than "Insists"?

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Postby Durm » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:02 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Full support.

So long as you mention that there also ought to be wizardly men at crosswalks telling oncoming traffic "You shall not pass!".

Might not the latter perhaps be better left as the subject for a separate Declaration, which somebody else could write? I don't want to appear too greedy so forget the bread.

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Noting oncoming traffic,

Hereby declares that you shall not pass.
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Postby The Hazar Amisnery » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:15 am

Many scientific analyses have declared that hippopotamuses are very large and I hereby give this declaration full approval
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