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A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:18 am

Lytrovia wrote:Lytrovia offers a peace deal favourable to both sides. The terms are as follows:

-Lytrovia shall respect Crimea's autonomy.
-Crimea may keep their soldiers as the 21st Crimean Division.
-The office of Crimean Representative shall be an elected one, with the Crimean Independence Party able to run.
-Foreign interveners will withdraw, but they may contribute to a peacekeeping force in Crimea.
-Lytrovia will compensate for damage done to infrastructure, and vice versa.

All nations involved can add to this.

SIC to Lytrovia: We can perform a last-offensive attack by all available forces on the enemy in order for Lytrovia to gather more power in peace negotiations
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Postby Meretica » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:20 am

Lytrovia wrote:Lytrovia offers a peace deal favourable to both sides. The terms are as follows:

-Lytrovia shall respect Crimea's autonomy.
-Crimea may keep their soldiers as the 21st Crimean Division.
-The office of Crimean Representative shall be an elected one, with the Crimean Independence Party able to run.
-Foreign interveners will withdraw, but they may contribute to a peacekeeping force in Crimea.
-Lytrovia will compensate for damage done to infrastructure, and vice versa.

All nations involved can add to this.

Meretica requests to know if Crimean "autonomy" is the same as independence.

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Postby Sky Reavers » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:36 am

Lytrovia wrote:Lytrovia offers a peace deal favourable to both sides. The terms are as follows:

-Lytrovia shall respect Crimea's autonomy.
-Crimea may keep their soldiers as the 21st Crimean Division.
-The office of Crimean Representative shall be an elected one, with the Crimean Independence Party able to run.
-Foreign interveners will withdraw, but they may contribute to a peacekeeping force in Crimea.
-Lytrovia will compensate for damage done to infrastructure, and vice versa.

All nations involved can add to this.


"We would like to point out, that revanchism is strong in Crimean population, and it's unlikely, that they will settle for the status quo, even with increased autonomy. The uprisig was taking shape far earlier, than the recent events, which caused crisis have occured. Besides, we all know, that Crimean Independence party is unlikely to have any substential influence, and that they might see this as mockery or unfulfillment of the promises. Plus, the locals will still resent Lytrovia.

In this situation, it would be better to give Crimea the desired independence, and in return require many other concessions and contributions. That it would be possible to retain cordial relations with the Crimean Republic. Even formal recognition of independence will be a great bargaining chip.

PS. Rebels have two missile bases, with some of the missiles able to reach capital. Better not to provoke them, we might not be able to stop them.-Council
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Postby Lytrovia » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:42 am

Sky Reavers wrote:
Lytrovia wrote:Lytrovia offers a peace deal favourable to both sides. The terms are as follows:

-Lytrovia shall respect Crimea's autonomy.
-Crimea may keep their soldiers as the 21st Crimean Division.
-The office of Crimean Representative shall be an elected one, with the Crimean Independence Party able to run.
-Foreign interveners will withdraw, but they may contribute to a peacekeeping force in Crimea.
-Lytrovia will compensate for damage done to infrastructure, and vice versa.

All nations involved can add to this.


"We would like to point out, that revanchism is strong in Crimean population, and it's unlikely, that they will settle for the status quo, even with increased autonomy. The uprisig was taking shape far earlier, than the recent events, which caused crisis have occured. Besides, we all know, that Crimean Independence party is unlikely to have any substential influence, and that they might see this as mockery or unfulfillment of the promises. Plus, the locals will still resent Lytrovia.

In this situation, it would be better to give Crimea the desired independence, and in return require many other concessions. That it would be possible to retain cordial relations with the Crimean Republic. Even formal recognition of independence will be a great bargaining chip."-Council


Whilst the People's Chamber discusses the peace deal, they arrange for all sides to enter a truce. Even if this is temporary, this can allow the government to focus on furthering their aims.

It is decided for Crimea to receive "disputed territories", as Lytrovia begins withdrawing troops

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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:47 am

Sky Reavers wrote:PS. Rebels have two missile bases, with some of the missiles able to reach capital. Better not to provoke them, we might not be able to stop them.-Council

SIC to Lytrovia: We can also attempt to destroy these bases with our stealth jets… Just saying..,
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Postby Lytrovia » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:55 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Lytrovia wrote:Lytrovia offers a peace deal favourable to both sides. The terms are as follows:

-Lytrovia shall respect Crimea's autonomy.
-Crimea may keep their soldiers as the 21st Crimean Division.
-The office of Crimean Representative shall be an elected one, with the Crimean Independence Party able to run.
-Foreign interveners will withdraw, but they may contribute to a peacekeeping force in Crimea.
-Lytrovia will compensate for damage done to infrastructure, and vice versa.

All nations involved can add to this.

SIC to Lytrovia: We can perform a last-offensive attack by all available forces on the enemy in order for Lytrovia to gather more power in peace negotiations


We agree, and this can be suported by 40 aircraft.
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Postby Sky Reavers » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:55 am

Lytrovia wrote:
Whilst the People's Chamber discusses the peace deal, they arrange for all sides to enter a truce. Even if this is temporary, this can allow the government to focus on furthering their aims.

It is decided for Crimea to receive "disputed territories", as Lytrovia begins withdrawing troops


Sky Reavers have agreed to enter the truce and cease fire if the rest do this too. Until then, they went into defensive mode, ready to fire in response only. "So, Crimea recieves the disputed territories. They will appreciate this gesture too, and most importnat, is that this decreases revanchism even further and might as well reduce the grievances. It will be far easier for us to persuade them, that current Lytrovian leadersip is not their enemy after all. In fact, it's time to let the old grievances go."-Shawn Bjornson
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Postby Lytrovia » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:57 am

Meretica wrote:
Lytrovia wrote:Lytrovia offers a peace deal favourable to both sides. The terms are as follows:

-Lytrovia shall respect Crimea's autonomy.
-Crimea may keep their soldiers as the 21st Crimean Division.
-The office of Crimean Representative shall be an elected one, with the Crimean Independence Party able to run.
-Foreign interveners will withdraw, but they may contribute to a peacekeeping force in Crimea.
-Lytrovia will compensate for damage done to infrastructure, and vice versa.

All nations involved can add to this.

Meretica requests to know if Crimean "autonomy" is the same as independence.


Pretty much. The government won't care much for the Crimeans after their rebellion, so they will let them recover under their watch.
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Postby Meretica » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:40 am

Lytrovia wrote:
Meretica wrote:Meretica requests to know if Crimean "autonomy" is the same as independence.


Pretty much. The government won't care much for the Crimeans after their rebellion, so they will let them recover under their watch.

Will Lytrovia maintain any control over Crimea?

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Postby Lytrovia » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:47 am

Meretica wrote:
Lytrovia wrote:
Pretty much. The government won't care much for the Crimeans after their rebellion, so they will let them recover under their watch.

Will Lytrovia maintain any control over Crimea?


Whilst the everyday Crimean will only see their lives return to what it was a week ago, the government plans for an agency of the Ministry of Ideology to keep the Representative in check, and therefore the peace deal is rather status quo ante bellum. Of course, bureacuracy shall change, and Crimea will be a lot more liberal.

OOC:Think of the Falklands to the UK, Catalonia to Spain, and Puerto Rico to the US.
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:58 am

Sky Reavers wrote:The prisoner, who injected himself some stimulatns felt some unusual effects, such as feeling lighter and feeling of understanding the world. He thought, that he is now temprarely overclocked like a computer, and tried to calculate something in his head. Aftef several seconds, he responds to that generous guard -"Вставляет, так вставляет! Не бойся... дуба не дам. Мы, Риверы вообще народ крепче гвоздей, нас такими сделала революция! Жара, холод, яды... мы легко такое переносим. И раз уж поделился, но не бухаешь, тогда хоть пару сигар возьми. (Now, i am high! Don't ya' worry, ain't gonna kick the bucket. We, Reavers are folks tough as nails, Heat, cold and poisons, they only slightly affect us. And since you shared, and don't drink, then take at least couple of cigars!)"-Metalhead prisoner responds and then tells about his homeland, where people can drink, smoke weed, gamble and go to brothels without fear of being arrested. About beaches and chaotic way of life with mutual aid. And some short story about the cultural and scientific Golden Age, then decades of oppression by theocratic regime, and revolution. After that, he said, that if this guards like the way of life, he can go there anytime, no visa needed.

In the meantime, wounded Reavers have satisifed their thirst for booze. At least for now.

Right now, all of the prisoners were looking forward to be released and prepared to join their comrades on the land and finally gain some glory in battle.

*deep sigh*
-Эх, товарищ, да если бы я даже хотел, я бы не смог…- при этих словах солдат указал на еле заметный шрам на лбу,- чип слежения, чтобы нас не похищали, ну и мы в самоволку не ходили… И такие здесь у всех- от матроса до капитана. Вынуть его возможности нет, да и зачем мне с вами уходить? Меня дома дети ждут, да и у нас не так уж плохо… Скучновато только.
Eh, comrade, even if I wanted to, I could not ... - with these words the soldier pointed to a barely noticeable scar on his forehead, - a tracking chip so that we could not be kidnapped, well, we could not go AWOL ... everyone here has these- from sailor to Kaleu. There is no way to remove it, and why should I leave with you? The children are waiting for me at home, and it's not so bad here either ... It's just boring. Just plain boring…
After a couple hours of sailing, U-96 finally had made it’s way to the designated exchange area. The guards had escorted the POW’s out of the U-Boat and into the Crimean watercraft, receiving aboard the exchanged missile specialists. Both sides will truly remember this voyage for a lot of years onwards…
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Postby Sky Reavers » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:02 am

Lytrovia wrote:Whilst the everyday Crimean will only see their lives return to what it was a week ago, the government plans for an agency of the Ministry of Ideology to keep the Representative in check, and therefore the peace deal is rather status quo ante bellum. Of course, bureacuracy shall change, and Crimea will be a lot more liberal.

OOC:Think of the Falklands to the UK, Catalonia to Spain, and Puerto Rico to the US.


"Like they can do that. Because if they could keep Representatives in check, the rebellion wouldn't have happened at all. And what if he knows, that they control him? Another battles, another problems."
Sky Reavers are retconned Skyhooked. A bunch of crazy, wild everpartying semi-anarchists, who are resistant to cold, heat and diseases, can can proccess booze like hell. MT/PMT tech. Wanna know more or have a request? It's here: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=505973

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Postby Meretica » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:17 am

Lytrovia wrote:
Meretica wrote:Will Lytrovia maintain any control over Crimea?


Whilst the everyday Crimean will only see their lives return to what it was a week ago, the government plans for an agency of the Ministry of Ideology to keep the Representative in check, and therefore the peace deal is rather status quo ante bellum. Of course, bureaucracy shall change, and Crimea will be a lot more liberal.

OOC: Think of the Falklands to the UK, Catalonia to Spain, and Puerto Rico to the US.

Meretica cannot support this and requests that Crimea is given full autonomy and independence.

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Postby Lytrovia » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:19 am

Sky Reavers wrote:
Lytrovia wrote:Whilst the everyday Crimean will only see their lives return to what it was a week ago, the government plans for an agency of the Ministry of Ideology to keep the Representative in check, and therefore the peace deal is rather status quo ante bellum. Of course, bureacuracy shall change, and Crimea will be a lot more liberal.

OOC:Think of the Falklands to the UK, Catalonia to Spain, and Puerto Rico to the US.


"Like they can do that. Because if they could keep Representatives in check, the rebellion wouldn't have happened at all. And what if he knows, that they control him? Another battles, another problems."


We can assure you that the post will be fully democratic. You are able to inspect the proceedings once the elections for the Representative is held, in about a month’s time. Lytrovia only wants peace in its territories.
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Postby Lytrovia » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:21 am

Meretica wrote:
Lytrovia wrote:
Whilst the everyday Crimean will only see their lives return to what it was a week ago, the government plans for an agency of the Ministry of Ideology to keep the Representative in check, and therefore the peace deal is rather status quo ante bellum. Of course, bureaucracy shall change, and Crimea will be a lot more liberal.

OOC: Think of the Falklands to the UK, Catalonia to Spain, and Puerto Rico to the US.

Meretica cannot support this and requests that Crimea is given full autonomy and independence.


Lytrovia respectfully rejects the request, pointing out that the war is currently in a stalemate, and neither side has any power to get their terms. We are only putting forward a possible peace deal. However, we may concede to a referendum to decide the people’s opinion.
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Postby Meretica » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:31 am

Lytrovia wrote:
Meretica wrote:Meretica cannot support this and requests that Crimea is given full autonomy and independence.


Lytrovia respectfully rejects the request, pointing out that the war is currently in a stalemate, and neither side has any power to get their terms. We are only putting forward a possible peace deal. However, we may concede to a referendum to decide the people’s opinion.

Meretica asks that a referendum be held. Meretica also asks that it oversee the referendum to ensure neutrality.

ISC: Meretican businessmen and some Senators assure Crimea that they have the nation's full support. Crimean support is growing, given the events of the Meretican Civil War, and most Mereticans want Crimea to be fully independent and autonomous.

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Postby Lytrovia » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:36 am

Meretica wrote:
Lytrovia wrote:
Lytrovia respectfully rejects the request, pointing out that the war is currently in a stalemate, and neither side has any power to get their terms. We are only putting forward a possible peace deal. However, we may concede to a referendum to decide the people’s opinion.

Meretica asks that a referendum be held. Meretica also asks that it oversee the referendum to ensure neutrality.

ISC: Meretican businessmen and some Senators assure Crimea that they have the nation's full support. Crimean support is growing, given the events of the Meretican Civil War, and most Mereticans want Crimea to be fully independent and autonomous.


ISIC: The Crimean Independence Party thanks Crimea for their support, and ensures that Meretica is favoured- politically and economically- when independence is established. A secret poll of Crimeans says that 79% of them want independence, 12% of them wish to stay in Lytrovia, and 9% abstained.

Meanwhile the Lytrovian government delays its reply…
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:47 am

The Wolfpack begin re-laying mines near the main Crimean ports, keeping them silent for now, however, they can be activated via a satellite signal.
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Postby Sky Reavers » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:30 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:*deep sigh*
-Эх, товарищ, да если бы я даже хотел, я бы не смог…- при этих словах солдат указал на еле заметный шрам на лбу,- чип слежения, чтобы нас не похищали, ну и мы в самоволку не ходили… И такие здесь у всех- от матроса до капитана. Вынуть его возможности нет, да и зачем мне с вами уходить? Меня дома дети ждут, да и у нас не так уж плохо… Скучновато только.
Eh, comrade, even if I wanted to, I could not ... - with these words the soldier pointed to a barely noticeable scar on his forehead, - a tracking chip so that we could not be kidnapped, well, we could not go AWOL ... everyone here has these- from sailor to Kaleu. There is no way to remove it, and why should I leave with you? The children are waiting for me at home, and it's not so bad here either ... It's just boring. Just plain boring…
After a couple hours of sailing, U-96 finally had made it’s way to the designated exchange area. The guards had escorted the POW’s out of the U-Boat and into the Crimean watercraft, receiving aboard the exchanged missile specialists. Both sides will truly remember this voyage for a lot of years onwards…


"It was a lil' nice vacation with ya'll! Sure, ya' could have had more booze! But luckily we had brought enough of our own booze and weed! Food? Well, it ain't bad, I tell ya' this! Accomodations? For a confined U-Boat, nothin' to complain. But now it's time for us to part ways! Did ya' like travellin' with us? Be honest."-Leader of the warbands says, as he leavs the U-boat. The warband gonna remember this affair and joke about it for years. The other 11 warbands would joke about 12th warband, having vacation on the U-Boat, while they fought in Crimea. In response, 12th warband would joke about 11 warbands chilling on the fresh air instead of being sardines. And then, the 12th warband would recieve a new nickname "Canned Sardines". They wonder, what are the thoughts of the Lakans on their culture and this cultural exchange.
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Postby East Osovia » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:33 pm

Lytrovia wrote:
Meretica wrote:Will Lytrovia maintain any control over Crimea?


Whilst the everyday Crimean will only see their lives return to what it was a week ago, the government plans for an agency of the Ministry of Ideology to keep the Representative in check, and therefore the peace deal is rather status quo ante bellum. Of course, bureacuracy shall change, and Crimea will be a lot more liberal.

OOC:Think of the Falklands to the UK, Catalonia to Spain, and Puerto Rico to the US.

East Osovia condemns this Soviet-style charlatanry, calling the oversight by the Lytrovian Ministry of Ideology anti-democratic. They point out that such authoritarian control will allow Lytrovia to stamp out any ideology or democratic outcome it does not like, thus rendering all concessions to Crimea null. East Osovia calls upon Lytrovia to allow for a referendum on Crimea's independence if it believes in the principles of democracy and is actually willing to let Crimean Independence parties run freely in Crimea. Anything short of this is considered a boldface lie to the people of Crimea in order to pacify and resubjugate them.

Furthermore, East Osovia's former hostility to the nation of Lytrovia was driven out of wariness of Soviet-style authoritarianism and expansion. Should Lytrovia prove it is not like the now defunct USSR, there is little doubt that relations between East Osovia and Lytrovia will improve dramatically.
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Postby Lytrovia » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:36 pm

East Osovia wrote:
Lytrovia wrote:
Whilst the everyday Crimean will only see their lives return to what it was a week ago, the government plans for an agency of the Ministry of Ideology to keep the Representative in check, and therefore the peace deal is rather status quo ante bellum. Of course, bureacuracy shall change, and Crimea will be a lot more liberal.

OOC:Think of the Falklands to the UK, Catalonia to Spain, and Puerto Rico to the US.

East Osovia condemns this Soviet-style charlatanry, calling the oversight by the Lytrovian Ministry of Ideology anti-democratic. They point out that such authoritarian control will allow Lytrovia to stamp out any ideology or democratic outcome it does not like, thus rendering all concessions to Crimea null. East Osovia calls upon Lytrovia to allow for a referendum on Crimea's independence if it believes in the principles of democracy and is actually willing to let Crimean Independence parties run freely in Crimea. Anything short of this is considered a boldface lie to the people of Crimea in order to pacify and resubjugate them.

Furthermore, East Osovia's former hostility to the nation of Lytrovia was driven out of wariness of Soviet-style authoritarianism and expansion. Should Lytrovia prove it is not like the now defunct USSR, there is little doubt that relations between East Osovia and Lytrovia will improve dramatically.


Finally, Lytrovia backs down. The plans for oversight by the MoI are scrapped, and a referendum shall be held in two days. All nations are invited to watch the procedure. This date will allow for a peace treaty to be negotiated before voter turnout can be maximised.

An opinion poll has found 90% of people prepared to vote for independence, or at the most autonomy.
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Postby Meretica » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:41 pm

IC: A small group of Meretican Senators is sent to Crimea. President Ross joins them, officially wanting to do some PR stunts.

SIC: Ross is actually in Crimea to personally ask the Crimeans what she and the rest of Meretica can do to help rebuild the nation. There are economic incentives for both Meretica and Crimea to do so, and Ross invites Crimea to join the planned Meretican moon landing next year.

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Postby Lytrovia » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:45 pm

Meretica wrote:IC: A small group of Meretican Senators is sent to Crimea. President Ross joins them, officially wanting to do some PR stunts.

SIC: Ross is actually in Crimea to personally ask the Crimeans what she and the rest of Meretica can do to help rebuild the nation. There are economic incentives for both Meretica and Crimea to do so, and Ross invites Crimea to join the planned Meretican moon landing next year.



SIC: Yeba Hrebenyuk, leader of the Independence Party, points out that her country is currently low on money, since their funding primarily came from Lytrovia. They have also been kicked out of the Shaping Land scheme, which means their infrastructure is on the brink of collapse. In return for exclusive access to Crimea’s EEZ and prioritised licenses to Sevastopol and Feodosia, Hrebenyuk requests financial aid, as well as a military presence if available. She is also happy to allow Crimean astronauts to join the moon landing, able to convert their missile sites into launch bases if necessary.
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Postby Sky Reavers » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:58 pm

Sky Reaver Overboss Shawn Bjornson decides to go to Crimea and finally meet the leader of the Independence Party. He asks about the further plans: "So, when the referenda is concluded, what is your plan to do next? Our warbands have fought for your noble cause, but our aid won't stop there. We have much resources to invest, but if you have any priorities, just tell us about them. Whatever you need, we will provide, be it money, technologies or able warriors."
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Postby Meretica » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:07 pm

Lytrovia wrote:
Meretica wrote:IC: A small group of Meretican Senators is sent to Crimea. President Ross joins them, officially wanting to do some PR stunts.

SIC: Ross is actually in Crimea to personally ask the Crimeans what she and the rest of Meretica can do to help rebuild the nation. There are economic incentives for both Meretica and Crimea to do so, and Ross invites Crimea to join the planned Meretican moon landing next year.



SIC: Yeba Hrebenyuk, leader of the Independence Party, points out that her country is currently low on money since their funding primarily came from Lytrovia. They have also been kicked out of the Shaping Land scheme, which means their infrastructure is on the brink of collapse. In return for exclusive access to Crimea’s EEZ and prioritized licenses to Sevastopol and Feodosia, Hrebenyuk requests financial aid, as well as a military presence if available. She is also happy to allow Crimean astronauts to join the moon landing, able to convert their missile sites into launch bases if necessary.

SIC: Ross assures Yeba that Meretican and Crimean interests will be supported by the Senate. The center-right senators, in particular, are excited to build relations with Crimea. "A joint moon landing will be good for us both-- there will be increases in patriotism and more people will make use of party supplies and the internet to witness it. That, alongside continued aid from Meretica and other nations, ought to help us both succeed in today's world. Furthermore, I would like to invite Crimea to join the UDAF and Restoration Alliance. We will both find ways to help our nations succeed in these dangerous times."

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