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Fight or Flight?

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Fight it flight?

Fight (duel the woman)
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Flight (jump over into the river)
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Infected Mushroom
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Fight or Flight?

Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:14 am

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You are a highly skilled swordsman from one of the great houses. Your father is one of the greatest lords in the country. You were knighted at 16 after proving your skill in battle and winning many lethal duels against much older opponents. Since, you have won many jousts and dueling tournaments and have become known as the greatest swordsman in the realm.

The kingdom breaks down into civil war and you participate in the war. In the battle you cut down large number of opponents but your luck runs out when your sword gets stuck in a corpse between some armor plates and you get dog-piled and captured.

As a high value prisoner, there’s a lot of complicated politics about whether you should be traded, kept, or executed.

In the end, one faction gets hold of you and sneaks you off to be traded to another hostile faction. The one person escorting you is a mysterious, female warrior clad in armor (some nobleman’s daughter who is a dedicated fighter). She marched you off in chains for weeks and you are tired, malnourished, and demoralized. When you get stopped by bandits, you see her singlehandedly slaughter 3 of them in one-sided combat.

Eventually, you are marched over a bridge. There’s a river under the bridge and you don’t know where it leads. You are still deep in enemy territory.

You pretend to be tired and sit down, complaining loudly. When she tries to restrain you, you make a quick grab and steal one of her two swords... you cut off the chain link to her as she backs off.

She takes out her other sword.

You have no armor and your two hands are still manacled together. Furthermore, you are in poor physical shape from the captivity.

You really have two choices:

Option 1: Fight and try to kill her. You think you can win despite the disadvantage.

Option 2: You drop the sword, leap into the river, and try to run away. You’ll get a head start due to the surprise factor; also, her armor would prevent her from jumping in. However, you don’t know where the river leads to.


If you go with Option 2, your reputation as a skilled swordsman may take a hit since you technically ran from a duel.

What do you say? Please justify your decision.

I would probably attempt to fight. This is because I would be very curious to see if I could win.
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Postby Esternial » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:06 am

Fighting a weakened and manacled prisoner is not honorable, so I see no reason to consider this a duel I am honor-bound to engage in.

I would express my regret at not being in better shape to face her, and will look forward to the time we can face eachother on equal ground in a duel before. Before diving into the river, I'd quip that this is the time she *almost* caught the famous captain Esternial Jackdaw.

Fighting her would dishonor her and make you, a skilled and renowned swordsman, look like a complete ponce for not having the seasoned wherewithal to acknowledge when you should retreat to fight another day - with honor.

Thus option 2 is the only honorable one.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:13 am

Esternial wrote:Fighting a weakened and manacled prisoner is not honorable, so I see no reason to consider this a duel I am honor-bound to engage in.

^ This

As a skilled fighter of great renown, I would withdraw and live to fight another day. They who shall not follow the Code Duello do not deserve the distinction of going a round with the dreaded Mask of Joyo.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:15 am

I'd draw the sword and tell her she can either walk away alive or fight me and perish. Live or die, the choice is hers.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:17 am

I'll pick option three, I woo her with my rapier wit.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:39 am

I'd be willing to test my limits in combat, since I understand that I'm massively powerful.

Even if it ends badly, being killed by a a woman with a big sword is an acceptable end to my life's story.

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Postby Dogmeat » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:02 am

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:05 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:I'll pick option three, I woo her with my rapier wit.

Truly a lannister
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:08 am

Well if I fight Brienne I'll end up captured by a third party, losing my good hand, and ultimately dying in a collapsing tunnel with my sister/lover. Whereas if I jump in the river I'll obviously drown. So option 3, fall on the stolen sword and die more quickly than drowning.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:10 am

Ifreann wrote:Well if I fight Brienne I'll end up captured by a third party, losing my good hand, and ultimately dying in a collapsing tunnel with my sister/lover. Whereas if I jump in the river I'll obviously drown. So option 3, fall on the stolen sword and die more quickly than drowning.

And miss your big dramatic moment in season 8? Very disappointed...
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:12 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Well if I fight Brienne I'll end up captured by a third party, losing my good hand, and ultimately dying in a collapsing tunnel with my sister/lover. Whereas if I jump in the river I'll obviously drown. So option 3, fall on the stolen sword and die more quickly than drowning.

And miss your big dramatic moment in season 8? Very disappointed...


Spoilers! I haven't seen it yet.

I know nothing.
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Postby Moliza » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:17 am

I'd run, I'm a coward

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:06 am

Ifreann wrote:Well if I fight Brienne I'll end up captured by a third party, losing my good hand, and ultimately dying in a collapsing tunnel with my sister/lover. Whereas if I jump in the river I'll obviously drown. So option 3, fall on the stolen sword and die more quickly than drowning.


Nothing's set in stone in this iteration of the story.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:09 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Well if I fight Brienne I'll end up captured by a third party, losing my good hand, and ultimately dying in a collapsing tunnel with my sister/lover. Whereas if I jump in the river I'll obviously drown. So option 3, fall on the stolen sword and die more quickly than drowning.


Nothing's set in stone in this iteration of the story.

If you want to write GOT fanfiction then you've come to the wrong website.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:09 am

So.... im Jaime Lannister then?

Well he can swim so im hopping in the river and not fighting "Not" Brienne.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:10 am

I go all Indiana Jones on that bitch and shoot her. I care not about the rules of the scenario.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:11 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I go all Indiana Jones on that bitch and shoot her. I care not about the rules of the scenario.

Yeah thats a Wash comment if there ever was one. :lol:
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:14 am

I would name the female sword fighter as my champion and have her fight herself.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Nothing's set in stone in this iteration of the story.

If you want to write GOT fanfiction then you've come to the wrong website.


That's not true. viewforum.php?f=31
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:54 am

Hop into the river, and push her in with me since I'd be able to swim and her armor would weigh her down.

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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:00 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Nothing's set in stone in this iteration of the story.

If you want to write GOT fanfiction then you've come to the wrong website.

Oh, is that what this is?

Never watched it. Its whole "dragons and incest" thing never appealed as a premise for a show.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:05 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If you want to write GOT fanfiction then you've come to the wrong website.

Oh, is that what this is?

Never watched it. Its whole "dragons and incest" thing never appealed as a premise for a show.


It's not bad, until the last season or so has decent story arc's and character development. Last season was kind of rushed and forced, but still worth the time.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:08 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:Oh, is that what this is?

Never watched it. Its whole "dragons and incest" thing never appealed as a premise for a show.


It's not bad, until the last season or so has decent story arc's and character development. Last season was kind of rushed and forced, but still worth the time.


Which is surprising. I would have expected the show to just drag-on.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:12 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
It's not bad, until the last season or so has decent story arc's and character development. Last season was kind of rushed and forced, but still worth the time.


Which is surprising. I would have expected the show to just drag-on.

The straight man is supposed to get paid, just sayin
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:15 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Which is surprising. I would have expected the show to just drag-on.

The straight man is supposed to get paid, just sayin


You'll get 20% of my cut :)
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