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Manhunt for heavily-armed soldier in Belgium

Postby Esternial » Fri May 21, 2021 4:07 am

So this story has been obviously circulating in Belgium the last few days:
A manhunt has begun for a Belgian soldier and far-right terror suspect, who is thought to be heavily armed and who has been missing since reportedly threatening a pro-vaccine virologist three days ago.

Army personnel have joined police using tracker dogs in the search for Jurgen Conings.

The soldier, 46, has not been seen since he had made threats against Belgian institutions and celebrities, a federal prosecutor said, without giving details.

Coning is believed to be heavily armed as weapons including anti-tank rocket launchers and ammunition, taken from a military base, were found in his abandoned car near Dilsen in west Belgium.

As well as armoured vehicles, the army deployed de-mining equipment to help police searching Hoge Kempen, a 12,000-hectare (30,000 acre) park of woodland, lakes and dunes.

A highway through the area, located 65 miles (104km) east of Brussels, was closed.

The Belgian government said earlier this week that Conings was on a list of potential terrorists due to far-right tendencies.


Source: https://news.sky.com/story/jurgen-conin ... t-12312057

This incident has brought a number of topics to the surface all at once, such as far-right radicalisation, the anti-vaccine movement and mental health.

A sizeable group of people have banded together in a Facebook group to voice their support for Jürgen for multiple different reasons. A prevailing mindset is that soldiers are inadequately supported after returning from deployment, struggling to adapt back to "normal" life and living with traumas from the war. I found it remarkable that many people were relativizing Jürgen's actions.

Personally I don't see any excuse for these kind of actions. He may have - from his perspective - valid reasons for acting the way he does, and even if some of us understand them it does not make his actions any less questionable. It is possible this man was driven to more far-right tendencies because of what he experienced during deployments, and I hope that if anything positive were to come from this, it's that mental health within the armed forces is taken more seriously, and the culture within the army is reformed to make it easier for soldiers to seek out and receive the help they need.

There's been a lot to think and talk about when it comes to this story for me and my friends. I'm wondering what your thought are on this, NSG?

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 21, 2021 4:10 am

Holy fuck, i just hope no one gets killed.
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Postby Esternial » Fri May 21, 2021 4:14 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Holy fuck, i just hope no one gets killed.

Me too. I've read a hunter found his abandoned car on a forest road which allegedly had a rudimentary booby trap installed using a copper wire and a grenade.

I've seen statements refuting that. I strongly hope it's false, as otherwise it suggests Jürgen is serious about taking people's lives. So far he hasn't harmed anyone as far as I know.

EDIT: Indeed the public prosecutor's office has confirmed this was fake news. Pretty fucked up someone would make this claim...
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri May 21, 2021 4:24 am

My first thought is "he hasn't been found yet?!" but then again I remember it's only days. It must be scary for the virologist and his family though, and I hope the suspect can be found quickly.

the culture within the army is reformed to make it easier for soldiers to seek out and receive the help they need.

This. I agree with this. I can't help but notice that this is not the first time that members (or former members) of the armed forces are found to have quite.....disturbing or extreme views. Something must be done.

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Postby Punished UMN » Fri May 21, 2021 4:29 am

Esternial wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Holy fuck, i just hope no one gets killed.

Me too. I've read a hunter found his abandoned car on a forest road which allegedly had a rudimentary booby trap installed using a copper wire and a grenade.

I've seen statements refuting that. I strongly hope it's false, as otherwise it suggests Jürgen is serious about taking people's lives. So far he hasn't harmed anyone as far as I know.

EDIT: Indeed the public prosecutor's office has confirmed this was fake news. Pretty fucked up someone would make this claim...

I mean, either way, he stole anti-tank rockets and presumably other weapons from a military base, potentially making him the most heavily armed man in the country, I would say it would need to be assumed he's serious about taking people's lives.
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Postby Tyrassueb » Fri May 21, 2021 4:30 am

I hope they apprehend this person before they kill or injure anyone, themselves included.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri May 21, 2021 4:32 am

Wish I could just steal an anti-tank rocket launcher :(
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri May 21, 2021 4:34 am

Punished UMN wrote:I mean, either way, he stole anti-tank rockets and presumably other weapons from a military base, potentially making him the most heavily armed man in the country, I would say it would need to be assumed he's serious about taking people's lives.

The anti-tank stuff and most of the other heavy weapons were recovered from a car. Presumably he left it behind because either it was too heavy or he intended to come back for it later, but the car was found before he could do so.
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Postby Esternial » Fri May 21, 2021 4:34 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Wish I could just steal an anti-tank rocket launcher :(

It would drastically speed up any home or garden renovation plans you might have in the works.

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Postby Punished UMN » Fri May 21, 2021 4:36 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:I mean, either way, he stole anti-tank rockets and presumably other weapons from a military base, potentially making him the most heavily armed man in the country, I would say it would need to be assumed he's serious about taking people's lives.

The anti-tank stuff and most of the other heavy weapons were recovered from a car. Presumably he left it behind because either it was too heavy or he intended to come back for it later, but the car was found before he could do so.

Either way even if he just had an assault rifle he would still be pretty heavily armed by the standards of Belgium.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri May 21, 2021 5:29 am

Esternial wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Wish I could just steal an anti-tank rocket launcher :(

It would drastically speed up any home or garden renovation plans you might have in the works.

Not to mention clearing out rush hour traffic
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Postby United Socialist Territories » Fri May 21, 2021 5:32 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Esternial wrote:It would drastically speed up any home or garden renovation plans you might have in the works.

Not to mention clearing out rush hour traffic

what the hell is wrong with you two?
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Postby J o J » Fri May 21, 2021 5:34 am

Esternial wrote: I hope that if anything positive were to come from this, it's that mental health within the armed forces is taken more seriously, and the culture within the army is reformed to make it easier for soldiers to seek out and receive the help they need.


You're right on the dot about that part, many active duty personnel and veterans alike are not given the adequate care they deserve. If this incident was indeed because a screw in his head came loose, then this is why the Armed Forces of any nation needs to make sure their personnel are mentally stable and taken care of.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri May 21, 2021 5:35 am

United Socialist Territories wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Not to mention clearing out rush hour traffic

what the hell is wrong with you two?

It's clearly tongue-in-cheek...
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Postby Lady Victory » Fri May 21, 2021 5:39 am

The New California Republic wrote:
United Socialist Territories wrote:what the hell is wrong with you two?

It's clearly tongue-in-cheek...


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Postby CoraSpia » Fri May 21, 2021 5:40 am

What do you have to prove he's either far-right or a terrorist?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri May 21, 2021 5:41 am

United Socialist Territories wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Not to mention clearing out rush hour traffic

what the hell is wrong with you two?

You ever been on the long Island expressway on a summer Friday afternoon?
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri May 21, 2021 5:43 am

CoraSpia wrote:What do you have to prove he's either far-right or a terrorist?

On Thursday, Defence Minister Ludivine Dedonder said the suspect had been identified by Belgian military intelligence for suspected ties to the far right as early as 2019. Last summer, the ministry filed a complaint against him for racist comments he posted online.

Reports described the soldier as a "potentially highly violent extremist". He is said to have left letters indicating he is prepared for a deadly battle with police and "could no longer live in a society where politicians and virologists have taken everything away from us".

The suspect has in the past threatened Mr Van Ranst, considered Belgium's best-known virologist.

Justice Minister Vincent Van Quickenborne told Flemish TV there were indications that Jurgen Conings was "violent and in the course of the past 24 hours, evidence has emerged the man poses an acute threat".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57183188
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Postby United Socialist Territories » Fri May 21, 2021 5:45 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
United Socialist Territories wrote:what the hell is wrong with you two?

You ever been on the long Island expressway on a summer Friday afternoon?

No? I don't even live on long Island
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri May 21, 2021 5:46 am

United Socialist Territories wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:You ever been on the long Island expressway on a summer Friday afternoon?

No? I don't even live on long Island


Then you shouldn't talk about things you don't understand
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Postby Lady Victory » Fri May 21, 2021 5:46 am

United Socialist Territories wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:You ever been on the long Island expressway on a summer Friday afternoon?

No? I don't even live on long Island


I'm getting the impression that humor isn't your strong suit.
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Postby CoraSpia » Fri May 21, 2021 6:11 am

The New California Republic wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:What do you have to prove he's either far-right or a terrorist?

On Thursday, Defence Minister Ludivine Dedonder said the suspect had been identified by Belgian military intelligence for suspected ties to the far right as early as 2019. Last summer, the ministry filed a complaint against him for racist comments he posted online.

Reports described the soldier as a "potentially highly violent extremist". He is said to have left letters indicating he is prepared for a deadly battle with police and "could no longer live in a society where politicians and virologists have taken everything away from us".

The suspect has in the past threatened Mr Van Ranst, considered Belgium's best-known virologist.

Justice Minister Vincent Van Quickenborne told Flemish TV there were indications that Jurgen Conings was "violent and in the course of the past 24 hours, evidence has emerged the man poses an acute threat".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57183188

Sadly anyone using force against the government is branded a terrorist nowadays.
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Postby Esternial » Fri May 21, 2021 6:14 am

CoraSpia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:
On Thursday, Defence Minister Ludivine Dedonder said the suspect had been identified by Belgian military intelligence for suspected ties to the far right as early as 2019. Last summer, the ministry filed a complaint against him for racist comments he posted online.

Reports described the soldier as a "potentially highly violent extremist". He is said to have left letters indicating he is prepared for a deadly battle with police and "could no longer live in a society where politicians and virologists have taken everything away from us".

The suspect has in the past threatened Mr Van Ranst, considered Belgium's best-known virologist.

Justice Minister Vincent Van Quickenborne told Flemish TV there were indications that Jurgen Conings was "violent and in the course of the past 24 hours, evidence has emerged the man poses an acute threat".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57183188

Sadly anyone using force against the government is branded a terrorist nowadays.

...and water is wet, thank you for that wonderful insight.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 21, 2021 6:18 am

Renegade soldier with suspected ties to the far right who has made multiple threats towards a virologist, members of the government and celebrities and rocket launchers that he is suspected to have stolen from a military base have been found hidden in a car

"Man they call everyone a terrorist these days"

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