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Should Lynchburg, Virginia be renamed?

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Should Lynchburg be renamed?

No.
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70%
Yes.
22
23%
Other/undecided.
6
6%
 
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Dess Myzkolanslaty
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Should Lynchburg, Virginia be renamed?

Postby Dess Myzkolanslaty » Thu May 13, 2021 2:37 pm

I was born in the City of Lynchburg in central Virginia. I spent most of my life there as well. It is a beautiful city with some nice scenery, history, and kind people. I have many fond memories of the place. However, since last year there have been some calls to rename Lynchburg. From what I can tell, most of these calls are coming from people from outside of Lynchburg as all of my friends and family that still live there think that these calls to rename the city are stupid. The controversy is merely over the fact that Lynchburg has the word "lynch" in it. Lynching is widely associated with the killing of black people by racist mobs during the Jim Crow era. However, this is not the origin of the city's name.

Lynchburg was named after John Lynch, who at the age of 17 founded a ferry service in the area in 1757. People would quickly begin to settle in the area, and the settlement was officially incorporated as Lynchburg, in honor of John Lynch, in 1786. While it is true that John Lynch did own a few slaves in his early years, it is worth noting that the did set them free and became an outspoken abolitionist in his later years.

Despite these facts, some contend that Lynchburg should be renamed simply because of the modern connotation of the John Lynch's surname. What are your thoughts on this?

Personally, I think that Lynchburg should remain Lynchburg. My black friends and family (I am half-white and half-black) there think so, too. The general perception there is that this is nothing more than an attempt by woke outsiders to impose cancel culture on other people and communities. This is also more or less my opinion. Of course, as a "proud native Lynchburger", I am possibly biased here.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu May 13, 2021 2:38 pm

I want to make clear that I am very sorry...that some people are so hopelessly stupid they think a man's last name glorifies murder. Leave Lynchburg alone.
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Postby Dess Myzkolanslaty » Thu May 13, 2021 2:40 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I want to make clear that I am very sorry...that some people are so hopelessly stupid they think a man's last name glorifies murder. Leave Lynchburg alone.


Thank you! It really is sad :(

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Postby Lady Victory » Thu May 13, 2021 2:40 pm

No, and this is a stupid proposal.
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Postby Dess Myzkolanslaty » Thu May 13, 2021 2:42 pm

Lady Victory wrote:No, and this is a stupid proposal.


I know. And yet, some people decided to make a petition to rename the city, anyway...

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 13, 2021 3:06 pm

It should be renamed to new ethelton
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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu May 13, 2021 3:07 pm

No. "Burg" is too German. Call it Lynchborough. Or Lynchville.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Thu May 13, 2021 3:08 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:No. "Burg" is too German. Call it Lynchborough. Or Lynchville.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu May 13, 2021 3:09 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:No. "Burg" is too German. Call it Lynchborough. Or Lynchville.

Lynchpin.

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu May 13, 2021 3:10 pm

Can the woke mob back off from things that have nothing to do with them? Stop being offended for other people, it doesn't help anything for anyone.
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Postby Diarcesia » Thu May 13, 2021 3:10 pm

I freaking knew it was named after a certain John Lynch.

No.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu May 13, 2021 3:13 pm

This is as dumb as the high school in Portland that renamed itself after the NAACP founder and then decided that they couldn't call their sports teams the "Evergreens" because "tree = lynching"...
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu May 13, 2021 3:17 pm

Just start to misspell it.

Lichburg. Because it will be the place where the undead will rise :)

Or Lunchburg, for the best burgers for lunch in all of Virginia.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu May 13, 2021 3:18 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:It should be renamed to new ethelton


What happened to old ethelton? :unsure:
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 13, 2021 3:25 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:It should be renamed to new ethelton


What happened to old ethelton? :unsure:

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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 13, 2021 3:43 pm

No there is no reason to rename it. Im tired of the renaming debate. I wonder what location will be next or what person will be decided to not meet modern standards and therefore the name must changed.

There is zero reason or justification to take the founders name and associate the city with the absolutely horrendous act of lynching.
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Postby Xmara » Thu May 13, 2021 4:05 pm

This is stupid. By that logic should everyone with the surname “Lynch” be forced to change their surname?
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Postby Senkaku » Thu May 13, 2021 4:06 pm

As long as they’re not going with “Hangville,” I guess the people of Lynchburg can call their city whatever they want? Idk why they would but whatever
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu May 13, 2021 4:08 pm

yes.
to david lynchburg.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu May 13, 2021 4:10 pm

No. I've found that changing names, removing statues, etc etc, whatever good-willed intentions might be behind it, it distracts from the hard challenge of truly combatting institutional and structural racism via an overhaul of our policies and our culture. That is far more important.

Redesigning, say, Aunt Jemima might make a few people feel warm and fuzzy, but it doesn't truly combat racism or racists. Same goes for name changes like these.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu May 13, 2021 4:16 pm

Senkaku wrote:As long as they’re not going with “Hangville,” I guess the people of Lynchburg can call their city whatever they want? Idk why they would but whatever

Apparently the people of Lynchburg are fine with the name, it's a bunch of carpetbaggers who are complaining.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu May 13, 2021 4:21 pm

Necroghastia wrote:yes.
to david lynchburg.


No.

David lynch is an idiot.
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Thu May 13, 2021 4:42 pm

It was William Lynch of Pittsylvania, Va. whose activities as head of a Revolutionary-era "vigilance committee" became memorialized in the language as "Lynch law." Be that as it may, if a majority of the residents of Lynchburg want to change the name of their town, they should be able to do so.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 13, 2021 4:43 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:yes.
to david lynchburg.


No.

David lynch is an idiot.

How about his wife?

We will call it Isabella.
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Postby Lady Victory » Thu May 13, 2021 4:47 pm

Major-Tom wrote:No. I've found that changing names, removing statues, etc etc, whatever good-willed intentions might be behind it, it distracts from the hard challenge of truly combatting institutional and structural racism via an overhaul of our policies and our culture. That is far more important.

Redesigning, say, Aunt Jemima might make a few people feel warm and fuzzy, but it doesn't truly combat racism or racists. Same goes for name changes like these.


There's no good-will intentions behind removing statues.

Racist slaving traitors who lost the war don't get participation trophies. It's as simple as that.
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