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Portland man beaten up at impromptu Checkpoint

Postby Nakena » Tue May 11, 2021 5:27 pm

Checkpoints are a thing now:

Police are investigating an armed confrontation between a motorist who pulled a handgun and at least two pedestrians dressed in black and armed with what appear to be assault rifles that erupted Thursday in the middle of a residential street in North Portland.

It’s unclear what started the standoff, but videos circulating on social media show the resulting confrontation between people in a crowd and the motorist, Joseph Hall, who remains hospitalized.

The tense encounter unfolded during a weekly march called Justice for Patrick Kimmons, a 27-year-old Black man shot and killed by police in downtown Portland in 2018 after he shot and wounded two other men.
Armed confrontation in North Portland

Confrontation at North Alberta Street and Michigan Avenue, May 6, 2021.

Hall, 53, said he’s a handyman who was headed home from his repair work at a nearby apartment complex when he swerved on Alberta Street to avoid a moped that cut him off.

He said he then noticed the moped following his truck and a man screaming on a handheld radio to stop his truck.

When he reached Michigan Avenue, Hall said another vehicle blocked his path “and all of a sudden I have three or four people around me” with what to him looked like AR-15s and AK-47s.

Hall said he grabbed hold of a non-lethal handgun that can shoot hard pellets to try to get the people to clear the way and hadn’t realized there was a march until people circled his truck. He said he heard a woman outside on a megaphone yelling at the crowd to let him go, but the people continued to block his truck and call him a “Nazi.”

“They’re screaming and yelling at me, claiming I was out there trying to run people over. That’s when I discovered a march was going on,” he said. ”I was trapped. A vehicle in front of me trapped me in. I couldn’t go forward or around.”

Hall is seen on video standing outside the driver’s seat of his red pickup, his door open, holding the firearm, while a man standing in the street points a rifle at him at North Alberta Street and Michigan Avenue.

Hall can be heard yelling: “You have about five seconds to lower that weapon,” as others respond that his truck is a weapon.

Hall said he stepped out of his pickup and someone snatched the keys from the truck. When he went around to the back of the truck, he said several people in the crowd remained hostile and pointed handguns and rifles at him.

He said he then pulled his .38-caliber pistol from his pants and headed into the fray.

“I’m trained in the military to walk towards the threat and fight your way through the threat,” said Hall. He said he served in the U.S. Marines and U.S. Army and has a concealed weapons permit out of Columbia County.

The videos capture when Hall headed to the back of his truck and confronted the crowd as two men dressed in black point rifles at him. One of the men holding a rifle pushes Hall down as others in the crowd yell, “Get his gun!”

People then tackled, punched, and kicked him, according to Hall and the videos.

Hall said his .38-caliber gun popped out of his hand and was stolen. People also stole other guns from his truck, he said. He called 911 and said he was told police were monitoring the situation.

An ambulance was sent and he was taken to Legacy Emanuel Hospital, where he’s being treated for a dislocated shoulder, broken left clavicle and five broken ribs, he said.

“All I wanted to do is leave,” said Hall, who has faced threats on social media. “I work with all race, creed, color, everybody. I will not sit back and let anybody that’s out there on social media call me anything other than what I really am. I’m a human being. My life was threatened.”


But judge for yourself and watch the full video of the confrontation.

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https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2021/0 ... treet.html
https://nypost.com/2021/05/08/portland- ... d-protest/

What exactly is going on in Portland, Oregon?

How comes it that they errect their own checkpoints now and what implications does this hold for the future? Does that man if you get in the wrong street, wrong checkpoint you'd be attacked by some vigilantes or militas if you look at them the wrong way? Or have the wrong name... and so on.

What do you think happened there?

EDIT: Video link updated.
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Amazing nobody died tbh.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Tue May 11, 2021 5:51 pm

I get that police brutality and corruption are huge issues in the United States, but nothing like that can justify the violence of this mob towards an innocent man. BLM and related movements seemingly display a disproportionate tendency towards violence and looting, both of which occurred here against the victim. I hope he recovers soon and his property is found and returned to him, and that those involved are brought to punishment.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue May 11, 2021 5:53 pm

Why did they pull over a random truck driver and scream at him that he was a nazi? A nazi for what, avoiding some guy on a moped?

This whole thing seems like a confusing dream. Why did they even do this?


I feel sorry for the poor truck driver.

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Postby Kowani » Tue May 11, 2021 5:55 pm

...a checkpoint???
the fuck is going on up there-
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue May 11, 2021 5:57 pm

Checkpoints? Does this has anything to do with Portland having riots for the past year? Dafuq is going on there?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 11, 2021 6:01 pm

Kowani wrote:...a checkpoint???
the fuck is going on up there-


Portland is p much a third world country at this point lol, it's great. I've got a buddy that lives there and he is desperate to get out.
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Postby Kowani » Tue May 11, 2021 6:01 pm

okay, so a bit more from the Oregonian article in the OP

Police now are attempting to collect as many statements as possible from those involved.

Police made no arrests but said investigators are gathering video evidence and other information to sort out what happened.

A tweet by a group called “We Out Here Magazine” described the scene: “A little after 1pm, a man decided to run his truck through the weekly Justice For Patrick Kimmons March, then got out of his truck with a gun before he was disarmed by volunteer security.”

Patrick Kimmons’ mother, Letha Winston, told KATU that a driver was speeding toward the crowd. About an hour before, police were called at 12:12 p.m. to a report of a pedestrian hit by a car near North Interstate Avenue and Killingsworth Street, not far from the later clash.

Police said they didn’t find anyone who was struck and that a large group of people had moved away, walking in nearby streets, “some openly carrying firearms.”

Police said they were responding to calls from people who had been driving in the area around noon and were blocked by a crowd in the street. One person said people in the crowd broke out their vehicle windows, damaged tires and sprayed them with some kind of irritant near Interstate and Killingsworth.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue May 11, 2021 6:07 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Kowani wrote:...a checkpoint???
the fuck is going on up there-


Portland is p much a third world country at this point lol, it's great. I've got a buddy that lives there and he is desperate to get out.


Give Portland to Canada, we can fix it. :p

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue May 11, 2021 6:09 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Portland is p much a third world country at this point lol, it's great. I've got a buddy that lives there and he is desperate to get out.


Give Portland to Canada, we can fix it. :p


You know what.

I will agree to Canada annexing all of America if we can give the new country a cool name.

The United Continental States of Arcadia is my vote. :DDDDD
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue May 11, 2021 6:11 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
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Give Portland to Canada, we can fix it. :p


You know what.

I will agree to Canada annexing all of America if we can give the new country a cool name.

The United Continental States of Arcadia is my vote. :DDDDD


Sounds good.

Can we group up your west coast and give it the name the Province of Cascadia?

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue May 11, 2021 6:13 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
You know what.

I will agree to Canada annexing all of America if we can give the new country a cool name.

The United Continental States of Arcadia is my vote. :DDDDD


Sounds good.

Can we group up your west coast and give it the name the Province of Cascadia?


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I'm kidding flyover states :P Is not your fault you're the... Second choice for the Witness Protection Program because technically while empty boring places are good to hide people in, heavily populated cities are better and easier to secure.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue May 11, 2021 6:15 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Sounds good.

Can we group up your west coast and give it the name the Province of Cascadia?


yeyeyeyeye

New England, Cascadia, Great Lakes, aaaaand... Flyover.

I'm kidding flyover states :P


Very good, I think we have a deal here.

Just made a stellaris nation that had Canada take over the US and become the world power too. Funny coincidence
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Postby The Serapis » Tue May 11, 2021 6:18 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
yeyeyeyeye

New England, Cascadia, Great Lakes, aaaaand... Flyover.

I'm kidding flyover states :P


Very good, I think we have a deal here.

idk i think we should call it the United States of America and Colder America

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue May 11, 2021 6:19 pm

So regarding this guy apparently having been assaulted...
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue May 11, 2021 6:19 pm

The Serapis wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Very good, I think we have a deal here.

idk i think we should call it the United States of America and Colder America


Doesn't really roll of the tongue does it.

Besides... I think I want Mommy Canada to adopt me before Creepy Uncle America takes me into his basement and convinces me I committed a crime with a baton.
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Stellar Colonies wrote:So regarding this guy apparently having been assaulted...

Yeah, it's fucked up. Don't know what was going thru there heads when they attacked some truck dude for avoiding another guy. Don't see how they can call him a nazi either.

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The Rich Port wrote:
The Serapis wrote:idk i think we should call it the United States of America and Colder America


Doesn't really roll of the tongue does it.

Besides... I think I want Mommy Canada to adopt me before Creepy Uncle America takes me into his basement and convinces me I committed a crime with a baton.

Treason. Supreme court time.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue May 11, 2021 6:25 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:So regarding this guy apparently having been assaulted...

Yeah, it's fucked up. Don't know what was going thru there heads when they attacked some truck dude for avoiding another guy. Don't see how they can call him a nazi either.


I mean it's kinda what goes through a lot of bad cops' minds.

"I can just kill this dude it's fine, I can't go to prison over this, my union has my back, he's just some pissant"

Exchange pissant with a racist slur if necessary. Systemic fascism and racism is something we will have to fight for a while, and not just in America.
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Postby Kowani » Tue May 11, 2021 6:28 pm

The Serapis wrote:
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Doesn't really roll of the tongue does it.

Besides... I think I want Mommy Canada to adopt me before Creepy Uncle America takes me into his basement and convinces me I committed a crime with a baton.

Treason. Supreme court time.
I heard there's a case going through the Supreme Court about if cheerleaders can insult a school
which, the fact that that's going through the SC, is either a good thing or a very bad thing.

There is, yes
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Tue May 11, 2021 6:28 pm

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However repulsive the idea of this is, when people attack drivers for stopping their vehicles and getting out this is exactly the kind of behaviour that is being incentivised.

People should be more willing to see their actions in terms of their results on broader society as a whole, and the political left especially so given how much of our beliefs rest on that idea.
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Postby Nakena » Tue May 11, 2021 6:29 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:So regarding this guy apparently having been assaulted...

Did you watch the video?

In case you haven't you should. It's clearly... a bad situation.
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Postby New haven america » Tue May 11, 2021 6:29 pm

Kowani wrote:...a checkpoint???
the fuck is going on up there-

Proud Boys and other right wing groups/militias are trying to "Reclaim the State" especially in rural areas.

Oregon for most of its history has been pretty fucking racist, even going so far as to enact laws that made it illegal for non-white people to live here. Well, around the time of The Civil Right's Movement, most of the racists in power got kicked out/exiled to Idaho, Montana, etc...

Well, they of course didn't like this, and with the rise of Trumpism in 2015/2016, a lot of right-wing groups have been testing the waters and are trying to turn Oregon from Blue to Red, something they think it should always have been. It's especially bad in rural areas. For example, during the wildfires, cops were allowing right-wing militia groups to pull over and attack evacuees who they think "Had ties to ANTIFA." They also believed that ANTIFA started the wildfires to begin with, for some reason.

This is why Portland has kind of been a hotbed for riots, because the people there, especially younger ones, aren't willing to put up with the Proud Boys and Militia bullshit. A lot of people just focus on the rioters, but not what they're rioting against. (That being, Proud Boys and other right wing groups running around the state trying to cause shit)
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