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[DRAFT #1c] [HAIL HYDRA!] Accurate Food Labelling Compact

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[DRAFT #1c] [HAIL HYDRA!] Accurate Food Labelling Compact

Postby Tinhampton » Thu May 06, 2021 4:29 pm

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Alexander Smith, Tinhamptonian Delegate-Ambassador to the World Assembly: I am aware of the impact that Article c could have on small businesses and am open to negotiation - up to a point, anyway.

OOC: Owen Carey, Natasha Ednan-Laperouse, their deaths and the associated Owen's Law/Natasha's Law campaigns have received sufficient media coverage (in my home country, the United Kingdom) that I have neither the time nor the space to link all of it here. Suffice to say that the following is a fairly accurate and extremely recent summary of the aforementioned.
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Accurate Food Labelling Compact
A resolution to enact uniform standards that protect workers, consumers, and the general public.
Category: Regulation
Area of Effect: Consumer Protection
Proposed by: Tinhampton

Convinced that every death which happens because someone consumes food without knowing that it contains potentially fatal allergens is a preventable death, and

Believing that requiring the accurate labelling of ingredients, including allergens, on food would benefit not only domestic shoppers but also potentially-confused tourists by helping both groups avoid consuming foods which could seriously imperil their health...

The General Assembly hereby:
  1. defines, for the purposes of this resolution:
    1. "foodstuffs" as food or drink,
    2. a "prominent sapient species" in a particular member state as a species which makes up at least one percent of all sapient beings in that member state,
    3. an "allergen" as any ingredient included in foodstuffs which is understood to cause severe or fatal allergic reactions in at least five percent of the population of any prominent sapient species in a member state, and
    4. "nutrients" as the amount of sugar, salt, carbohydrates, protein, fat, fibre, and energy content in a particular foodstuff, and
  2. requires each member state to ensure that all packages which contain foodstuffs intended for sale or provision at stores or restaurants carry accurate information about:
    1. the net weight of that foodstuff,
    2. a list of instructions that must be followed before that foodstuff can be consumed (including the amount of time that each instruction should ordinarily take and what temperature any ovens used in preparing that food must be set at in order to cook that foodstuff to a level safe for sapient consumption), if that foodstuff must be prepared before a member of a prominent sapient species can safely consume it,
    3. the raw amount of nutrients in those foodstuffs, given per 100 grams of that foodstuff, for the net weight of that foodstuff, and as a percentage of how much of those nutrients the member state recommends the population of its most prevalent sapient species should consume per day (if that member state has issued such recommendations), and
    4. a full list of ingredients of those foodstuffs,
  3. mandates that, on all packages described in Article b:
    1. all allergens in this list be clearly labelled (for example, by being written using a larger or bold font) on the packaging itself, and it must be made clear for what prominent sapient species in that member state these allergens can cause severe or fatal allergic reactions in, and
    2. all genetically modified ingredients (GMIs) be clearly labelled as such,
  4. tasks all restaurants in member states, whether or not they sell or provide unpackaged foodstuffs, with ensuring that all of their customers - regardless of species, access to technology as of time of purchase, or any arbitrary and reductive characteristics they may possess - can obtain a full list of allergens in those foodstuffs, as well as whether those foodstuffs contain any GMIs, on request (such as by provision of a menu or encouraging customers to ask about any allergens or GMIs that may be present in their meal of preference), and
  5. mandates that all information given under Articles b, c, and d be given in any of the official and most commonly spoken language(s) of the member state (or, if applicable, the political subdivision thereof) the foodstuffs for which such information must be given are being sold or provided in, and
  6. clarifies that Article b(iii) does not apply to vitamins and minerals.
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Postby Barfleur » Thu May 06, 2021 5:55 pm

"Barfleur supports this proposal. Though at first glance the labeling of food may not appear to be a matter for international concern, the preservation of sapient life certainly is, for the same reason as pollution, terrorism, and the death penalty are. A person's life, after all, is the most personal and important thing they have, and this Assembly has historically emphasized the protection of rights."

OOC: I strongly doubt "internet access" is an illegal real-world reference, but I would recommend asking to be sure. You never know what the 11th/13th hour (either immediately before or immediately after you submit!) legality challenge will have to say.
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu May 06, 2021 6:23 pm

Delegate-Ambassador Alexander Smith: Thank you, Ambassador MacGeorge.

OOC: search.php?keywords=internet&t=30&sf=msgonly
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu May 13, 2021 9:30 am

New Articles b(i) and b(ii) added; references to "internet access" in Article c further replaced with references to "access to technology." I have also begun drafting a repeal of GA#88 in light of the realisation that it might prove to be somewhat difficult for businesses in member states where the use of metric units is forbidden to comply with my prospective Article b(iii) at least :P
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The Self-Administrative City of TINHAMPTON (pop. 319,372): Saffron Howard, Mayor (UCP); Alexander Smith, WA Delegate-Ambassador

Authorships & co-authorships: SC#250, SC#251, Issue #1115, SC#267, GA#484, GA#491, GA#533, GA#540, GA#549, SC#356
Other achievements: Cup of Harmony 73 champions; -45 Darkspawn Kill Points; Philosopher-Queen of Sophia; "Tinhampton? the man's literally god"
Who am I, really? 45yo Tory woman; Cambridge graduate; possibly very controversial; currently reading The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt


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Postby Ardiveds » Thu May 13, 2021 11:35 am

OOC: Is the use of the metric system (gram) really necessary? Why not just 'nutrients per a definite amount'? This would also solve issues regarding species that might consume lots of food and thus their packaging might be better off with 'nutrients per kg'. Just saying that shoehorning a specific measurement system where we usually try to avoid being too specific might not be the best idea. Just to clarify, this is regarding clause b.iii
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu May 13, 2021 11:44 am

Ardiveds wrote:OOC: Is the use of the metric system (gram) really necessary? Why not just 'nutrients per a definite amount'? This would also solve issues regarding species that might consume lots of food and thus their packaging might be better off with 'nutrients per kg'. Just saying that shoehorning a specific measurement system where we usually try to avoid being too specific might not be the best idea. Just to clarify, this is regarding clause b.iii

The remainder of Article b(iii) is clear that nutrient levels "for the net weight of that foodstuff, and as a percentage of how much of those nutrients the member state recommends the population of its most prevalent sapient species should consume per day (if that member state has issued such recommendations)" be specified on foodstuff packaging.
The Self-Administrative City of TINHAMPTON (pop. 319,372): Saffron Howard, Mayor (UCP); Alexander Smith, WA Delegate-Ambassador

Authorships & co-authorships: SC#250, SC#251, Issue #1115, SC#267, GA#484, GA#491, GA#533, GA#540, GA#549, SC#356
Other achievements: Cup of Harmony 73 champions; -45 Darkspawn Kill Points; Philosopher-Queen of Sophia; "Tinhampton? the man's literally god"
Who am I, really? 45yo Tory woman; Cambridge graduate; possibly very controversial; currently reading The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt


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Postby Ardiveds » Thu May 13, 2021 1:10 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Ardiveds wrote:OOC: Is the use of the metric system (gram) really necessary? Why not just 'nutrients per a definite amount'? This would also solve issues regarding species that might consume lots of food and thus their packaging might be better off with 'nutrients per kg'. Just saying that shoehorning a specific measurement system where we usually try to avoid being too specific might not be the best idea. Just to clarify, this is regarding clause b.iii

The remainder of Article b(iii) is clear that nutrient levels "for the net weight of that foodstuff, and as a percentage of how much of those nutrients the member state recommends the population of its most prevalent sapient species should consume per day (if that member state has issued such recommendations)" be specified on foodstuff packaging.

OOC: Should've read the whole thing oops :P
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Postby Uan aa Boa » Fri May 14, 2021 4:03 am

This does nothing to address the depressingly common practice of labeling all foods as potentially containing allergens whether they are actually likely to or not, avoiding the risk of litigation but also depriving allergy sufferers of any useful information.

Considering the worldwide situation concerning plastic pollution we should be seeking to minimise packaging rather encouraging it.

Is is really reasonable to require the vendor of a late night kebab or burger to be able to tell you on demand the precise amount of vitamin B6 it contains per 100g, potentially in multiple languages?

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Postby Tinhampton » Fri May 14, 2021 7:18 am

Uan aa Boa wrote:This does nothing to address the depressingly common practice of labeling all foods as potentially containing allergens whether they are actually likely to or not, avoiding the risk of litigation but also depriving allergy sufferers of any useful information.

I am open to solutions about deproblematising the wording of Article a(iii).

Uan aa Boa wrote:Is i[t] really reasonable to require the vendor of a late night kebab or burger to be able to tell you on demand the precise amount of vitamin B6 it contains per 100g, potentially in multiple languages?

No - Article d has been given a bit of a haircut as a result and Article f has totally not been haphazardly slapped on to cover anything along those lines.
The Self-Administrative City of TINHAMPTON (pop. 319,372): Saffron Howard, Mayor (UCP); Alexander Smith, WA Delegate-Ambassador

Authorships & co-authorships: SC#250, SC#251, Issue #1115, SC#267, GA#484, GA#491, GA#533, GA#540, GA#549, SC#356
Other achievements: Cup of Harmony 73 champions; -45 Darkspawn Kill Points; Philosopher-Queen of Sophia; "Tinhampton? the man's literally god"
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Postby Uan aa Boa » Sat May 15, 2021 3:31 am

Tinhampton wrote:I am open to solutions about deproblematising the wording of Article a(iii).

The point I was making wasn't really about a(iii), but now you mention it I've just noticed that it's only interested in allergens that cause a severe or fatal reaction in 5% of the population. That's an absurdly high number that wouldn't even require labels to draw attention to peanuts. Anything with the potential to kill 5% of the population isn't an allergen, it's a toxin. But yeah, I'm not sure I want to write stuff for this proposal just because I find species-wank really off-putting.

Tinhampton wrote:No - Article d has been given a bit of a haircut as a result and Article f has totally not been haphazardly slapped on to cover anything along those lines.

You misunderstand my point. I'm not just saying it's unreasonable for a burger van to have to provide information on vitamins and minerals. It's just as daft to expect them to tell you about sugar, fat and carbohydrates. Basically, FoodCorp Inc knows the nutritional content of its products in detail because they are produced in large quantities by a highly controlled industrial process. A small cafe that buys some dried goods from a wholesaler and some fresh ingredients from local suppliers and makes small batches of meals from them on a menu that changes daily can't be expected to have this information. There's no benefit to expecting them to calculate how the nutrients per 100g of a sandwich change when you add a handful of lettuce and a dollop of mayo, or to expect those numbers to have the consistency that they would do for products churned out by FoodCorp Inc. Nor is it the cafe's problem if its customers aren't aware of the difference between low and high fat food.


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