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[SUBMITTED] Wherefore Art Thou, @@LEADER@@?

Postby Ellbonnia » Wed May 05, 2021 11:23 am

[title]Wherefore Art Thou, @@LEADER@@?
[description] The latest controversy du jour arose when famed @@DEMONYM@@ artist Fabien Lurch was exposed for outsourcing the majority of the work for the sculpture you commissioned from him, relying on dozens of assistants to construct a towering statue in your likeness without ever considering crediting them for their efforts. In an impulsive attempt to bring this revelation to your attention, a dizzying array of artists and art critics have smashed their way into your office just as you were pouring yourself a nice cup of tea after a long day’s work.
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[option]"You've got to save me from this rabble, @@LEADER@@!" implores Fabien Lurch, groveling at your feet in a pool of spilled tea and shattered fine china. "These ingrates don't realize that my vision permeates throughout the entire artistic process, from beginning to end! How else can these idiots form something as important as a tribute to you without my superior intellect to guide their hands? They should be grateful for the work I'm offering them, when so many other people around the world are going hungry without a job! Why don't we just forget about this whole fracas, and let this minor spat die down? I'll even give you one of my gorgeous Neo-@@DEMONYM@@ paintings for free if you leave true artists like me alone."
[effect]art experts claim to see the literal blood, sweat and tears of overworked assistants staining every tortured brushstroke.

[option]"On the contrary, we know full well how much work we’re doing; our work, I might add!" retorts Nemo Wright, the leader of a group of Lurch's erstwhile assistants. "This pompous oaf works us to the bone for next to no pay, and has the gall to brag that he's the only one who deserves any credit whatsoever! Lurch only cares about the bottom line, while we’re slaving away to pay rightful homage to our dear Leader! I'm not saying to get rid of our profession altogether, of course; just make sure we're treated fairly and given due credit for our hard work!"
[effect]the names of visionary entrepreneurs are lost to history as their inventions are credited solely to the workers who build them.

[option]"The plight of these poor little workers is tragic, but they unsurprisingly fail to grasp the bigger picture here," sighs Lucille B. Claus, one of @@NAME@@'s harshest and most patronizing art critics. "It's true that this shocking revelation has rightfully tarnished Lurch's reputation for good. But why should we continue this cycle of disingenuous pseudo-plagiarism by supporting the very people who help these disreputable 'artists', especially for a commission as esteemed as yours?"
Noticing the glares emanating from both Lurch and his former assistants, Claus leans towards your ear. "I say, do the right thing and ban outsourcing art projects altogether. You won't need to worry about protecting these redundant assistants, and you'll be forcing our artists to start producing genuine @@DEMONYM@@ artwork! Seems like a pretty obvious win-win to me."
[effect]desolate art galleries across the nation shut down as lazy @@DEMONYM@@ artists cannot be bothered to pick up their tools.


[title]Wherefore Art Thou, @@LEADER@@?
[description] The latest controversy du jour arose when famed @@DEMONYM@@ artist Fabien Lurch recently admitted to outsourcing the majority of his work, relying on dozens of assistants to construct his intricate sculptures without ever crediting them for their help. Instead of duking it out on Internet forums and newspaper editorials as they usually would, a dizzying array of artists and art critics have barged their way into your office just as you were pouring yourself a soothing cup of tea.
[validity]Valid for all nations

[option]"You've got to save me from this rabble, @@LEADER@@!" implores Fabien Lurch, groveling at your feet in a pool of spilled tea. "These ingrates don't realize that my vision permeates the entire artistic process, from beginning to end! How can these idiots form something without my superior intellect to guide their hands? They should be grateful for the work I'm offering them, when so many other people around the world are going hungry without a job! Why don't we just forget about this whole fracas, and let sleeping dogs lie? I'll even gift you one of my gorgeous statues if you leave talented artists like me alone."
[effect]art experts claim to see the blood, sweat and tears of overworked assistants in every tortured brushstroke.

[option]"On the contrary, we know full well how much work we did; our work, I might add!" retorts Nemo Wright, one of Lurch's erstwhile assistants. "This pompous oaf worked us to the bone for next to no pay, and has the gall to brag that he's the only one who deserves any credit whatsoever! I'm not saying to get rid of our profession altogether, of course; just make sure we're treated fairly and given due credit for our hard work!"
[effect]the names of visionary entrepreneurs are lost to history as their inventions are credited solely to the workers who produce them.

[option]"The plight of these poor little workers is tragic, but they unsurprisingly fail to grasp the bigger picture here," sighs Lucille B. Claus, one of @@NAME@@'s harshest and most patronizing art critics. "It's true that this shocking revelation has rightfully tarnished Lurch's reputation for good. But why should we continue this cycle of disingenuous pseudo-plagiarism by supporting the very people who help these disreputable 'artists'?"
Noticing the glares emanating from both Lurch and his former assistant, Claus leans towards your ear. "I say, do the right thing and ban outsourcing art projects altogether. You don't need to worry about taking care of these redundant assistants, and you'll be furthering the cause of genuine @@DEMONYM@@ artwork, too! Seems like a pretty obvious win-win to me."
[effect]art galleries across the nation shut their doors as lazy @@DEMONYM@@ artists cannot be bothered to pick up their tools.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Thu May 06, 2021 1:02 am

So, an artist outsources his or her work to other ones and doesn't credit them. Isn't that an issue for the public to solve or the courts? It doesn't really come across as a national issue in its current form, as the trope "somehow it landed before you" isn’t really a strong approach.

What if you changed the premise to have the artist be sculpting (or painting, as we do have an issue about sculptures already) @@LEADER@@'s image, and for that they're outsourcing the work to smaller artists who aren't being credited for their work, and that is raised to @@LEADER@@'s attention? That would make the issue premise a little more nationally relevant, or at least a little more plausible as to why this would be an issue that @@LEADER@@ has to address.
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Postby Ellbonnia » Thu May 06, 2021 9:36 am

Daarwyrth wrote:So, an artist outsources his or her work to other ones and doesn't credit them. Isn't that an issue for the public to solve or the courts? It doesn't really come across as a national issue in its current form, as the trope "somehow it landed before you" isn’t really a strong approach.

What if you changed the premise to have the artist be sculpting (or painting, as we do have an issue about sculptures already) @@LEADER@@'s image, and for that they're outsourcing the work to smaller artists who aren't being credited for their work, and that is raised to @@LEADER@@'s attention? That would make the issue premise a little more nationally relevant, or at least a little more plausible as to why this would be an issue that @@LEADER@@ has to address.


That's a great point; I'll try to make my issue more believable with that in mind. Other than that detail, is there anything else I should change before sending the issue for consideration?

I'm still quite new to writing issues (this is actually my very first attempt), so I don't want to send my draft in too early; how long should I normally wait until submitting the edited issue?

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Postby Daarwyrth » Thu May 06, 2021 10:16 am

Ellbonnia wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:So, an artist outsources his or her work to other ones and doesn't credit them. Isn't that an issue for the public to solve or the courts? It doesn't really come across as a national issue in its current form, as the trope "somehow it landed before you" isn’t really a strong approach.

What if you changed the premise to have the artist be sculpting (or painting, as we do have an issue about sculptures already) @@LEADER@@'s image, and for that they're outsourcing the work to smaller artists who aren't being credited for their work, and that is raised to @@LEADER@@'s attention? That would make the issue premise a little more nationally relevant, or at least a little more plausible as to why this would be an issue that @@LEADER@@ has to address.


That's a great point; I'll try to make my issue more believable with that in mind. Other than that detail, is there anything else I should change before sending the issue for consideration?

I'm still quite new to writing issues (this is actually my very first attempt), so I don't want to send my draft in too early; how long should I normally wait until submitting the edited issue?

Well, first of all, welcome to Got Issues! :) I don't know if you have done so already, but I'd strongly recommend you to read over Got Issues FAQ & How To Write An Issue!

My advice would be to first try to implement the changes that have been suggested earlier. That way people will be able to see what still can be improved upon, and what has already been made better. So, don't be surprised if you end up with a lot of draft versions :) oh, btw, new drafts remain within this thread that you have started, and it's customary to include older drafts under spoilers in the original post.

As to how long a draft should be worked on, there's no single timeframe for all issues. In rare cases issue drafts will be so good that they only need a few weeks of drafting, but in most cases four or more weeks isn't uncommon. The longer you leave a draft up for drafting, the more feedback it can gather, and therefore become better. Yet if at one point you see you're getting multiple comments saying "this is a good draft" (especially editors), that may be a sign that it's time for submission. But ultimately, when you feel satisfied with a draft, you have the right to submit it :)

I hope I was able to help you! Feel free to ask questions if things are unclear!
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Postby Ellbonnia » Thu May 06, 2021 12:05 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:Well, first of all, welcome to Got Issues! :) I don't know if you have done so already, but I'd strongly recommend you to read over Got Issues FAQ & How To Write An Issue!

My advice would be to first try to implement the changes that have been suggested earlier. That way people will be able to see what still can be improved upon, and what has already been made better. So, don't be surprised if you end up with a lot of draft versions :) oh, btw, new drafts remain within this thread that you have started, and it's customary to include older drafts under spoilers in the original post.

As to how long a draft should be worked on, there's no single timeframe for all issues. In rare cases issue drafts will be so good that they only need a few weeks of drafting, but in most cases four or more weeks isn't uncommon. The longer you leave a draft up for drafting, the more feedback it can gather, and therefore become better. Yet if at one point you see you're getting multiple comments saying "this is a good draft" (especially editors), that may be a sign that it's time for submission. But ultimately, when you feel satisfied with a draft, you have the right to submit it :)

I hope I was able to help you! Feel free to ask questions if things are unclear!


I appreciate it! I'll probably have a new draft up pretty soon to look at.

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Postby Ellbonnia » Thu May 06, 2021 12:31 pm

[title]Wherefore Art Thou, @@LEADER@@?
[description] The latest controversy du jour arose when famed @@DEMONYM@@ artist Fabien Lurch was exposed for outsourcing the majority of the work for the sculpture you commissioned from him, relying on dozens of assistants to construct a towering statue in your likeness without ever considering crediting them for their efforts. In an impulsive attempt to bring this revelation to your attention, a dizzying array of artists and art critics have smashed their way into your office just as you were pouring yourself a nice cup of tea after a long day’s work.
[validity]Valid for all nations

[option]"You've got to save me from this rabble, @@LEADER@@!" implores Fabien Lurch, groveling at your feet in a pool of spilled tea and shattered fine china. "These ingrates don't realize that my vision permeates throughout the entire artistic process, from beginning to end! How else can these idiots form something as important as a tribute to you without my superior intellect to guide their hands? They should be grateful for the work I'm offering them, when so many other people around the world are going hungry without a job! Why don't we just forget about this whole fracas, and let this minor spat die down? I'll even give you one of my gorgeous Neo-@@DEMONYM@@ paintings for free if you leave true artists like me alone."
[effect]art experts claim to see the literal blood, sweat and tears of overworked assistants staining every tortured brushstroke.

[option]"On the contrary, we know full well how much work we’re doing; our work, I might add!" retorts Nemo Wright, the leader of a group of Lurch's erstwhile assistants. "This pompous oaf works us to the bone for next to no pay, and has the gall to brag that he's the only one who deserves any credit whatsoever! Lurch only cares about the bottom line, while we’re slaving away to pay rightful homage to our dear Leader! I'm not saying to get rid of our profession altogether, of course; just make sure we're treated fairly and given due credit for our hard work!"
[effect]the names of visionary entrepreneurs are lost to history as their inventions are credited solely to the workers who build them.

[option]"The plight of these poor little workers is tragic, but they unsurprisingly fail to grasp the bigger picture here," sighs Lucille B. Claus, one of @@NAME@@'s harshest and most patronizing art critics. "It's true that this shocking revelation has rightfully tarnished Lurch's reputation for good. But why should we continue this cycle of disingenuous pseudo-plagiarism by supporting the very people who help these disreputable 'artists', especially for a commission as esteemed as yours?"
Noticing the glares emanating from both Lurch and his former assistants, Claus leans towards your ear. "I say, do the right thing and ban outsourcing art projects altogether. You won't need to worry about protecting these redundant assistants, and you'll be forcing our artists to start producing genuine @@DEMONYM@@ artwork! Seems like a pretty obvious win-win to me."
[effect]desolate art galleries across the nation shut down as lazy @@DEMONYM@@ artists cannot be bothered to pick up their tools.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Thu May 06, 2021 12:33 pm

Ellbonnia wrote:
[title]Wherefore Art Thou, @@LEADER@@?
[description] The latest controversy du jour arose when famed @@DEMONYM@@ artist Fabien Lurch was exposed for outsourcing the majority of the work for the sculpture you commissioned from him, relying on dozens of assistants to construct a towering statue in your likeness without ever considering crediting them for their efforts. In an impulsive attempt to bring this revelation to your attention, a dizzying array of artists and art critics have smashed their way into your office just as you were pouring yourself a nice cup of tea after a long day’s work.
[validity]Valid for all nations

[option]"You've got to save me from this rabble, @@LEADER@@!" implores Fabien Lurch, groveling at your feet in a pool of spilled tea and shattered fine china. "These ingrates don't realize that my vision permeates throughout the entire artistic process, from beginning to end! How else can these idiots form something as important as a tribute to you without my superior intellect to guide their hands? They should be grateful for the work I'm offering them, when so many other people around the world are going hungry without a job! Why don't we just forget about this whole fracas, and let this minor spat die down? I'll even give you one of my gorgeous Neo-@@DEMONYM@@ paintings for free if you leave true artists like me alone."
[effect]art experts claim to see the literal blood, sweat and tears of overworked assistants staining every tortured brushstroke.

[option]"On the contrary, we know full well how much work we’re doing; our work, I might add!" retorts Nemo Wright, the leader of a group of Lurch's erstwhile assistants. "This pompous oaf works us to the bone for next to no pay, and has the gall to brag that he's the only one who deserves any credit whatsoever! Lurch only cares about the bottom line, while we’re slaving away to pay rightful homage to our dear Leader! I'm not saying to get rid of our profession altogether, of course; just make sure we're treated fairly and given due credit for our hard work!"
[effect]the names of visionary entrepreneurs are lost to history as their inventions are credited solely to the workers who build them.

[option]"The plight of these poor little workers is tragic, but they unsurprisingly fail to grasp the bigger picture here," sighs Lucille B. Claus, one of @@NAME@@'s harshest and most patronizing art critics. "It's true that this shocking revelation has rightfully tarnished Lurch's reputation for good. But why should we continue this cycle of disingenuous pseudo-plagiarism by supporting the very people who help these disreputable 'artists', especially for a commission as esteemed as yours?"
Noticing the glares emanating from both Lurch and his former assistants, Claus leans towards your ear. "I say, do the right thing and ban outsourcing art projects altogether. You won't need to worry about protecting these redundant assistants, and you'll be forcing our artists to start producing genuine @@DEMONYM@@ artwork! Seems like a pretty obvious win-win to me."
[effect]desolate art galleries across the nation shut down as lazy @@DEMONYM@@ artists cannot be bothered to pick up their tools.

Oh, perhaps I should have been clearer. The new draft needs to be in the original post as well, above First Draft :)
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Postby Ellbonnia » Thu May 06, 2021 12:35 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:
Ellbonnia wrote:
[title]Wherefore Art Thou, @@LEADER@@?
[description] The latest controversy du jour arose when famed @@DEMONYM@@ artist Fabien Lurch was exposed for outsourcing the majority of the work for the sculpture you commissioned from him, relying on dozens of assistants to construct a towering statue in your likeness without ever considering crediting them for their efforts. In an impulsive attempt to bring this revelation to your attention, a dizzying array of artists and art critics have smashed their way into your office just as you were pouring yourself a nice cup of tea after a long day’s work.
[validity]Valid for all nations

[option]"You've got to save me from this rabble, @@LEADER@@!" implores Fabien Lurch, groveling at your feet in a pool of spilled tea and shattered fine china. "These ingrates don't realize that my vision permeates throughout the entire artistic process, from beginning to end! How else can these idiots form something as important as a tribute to you without my superior intellect to guide their hands? They should be grateful for the work I'm offering them, when so many other people around the world are going hungry without a job! Why don't we just forget about this whole fracas, and let this minor spat die down? I'll even give you one of my gorgeous Neo-@@DEMONYM@@ paintings for free if you leave true artists like me alone."
[effect]art experts claim to see the literal blood, sweat and tears of overworked assistants staining every tortured brushstroke.

[option]"On the contrary, we know full well how much work we’re doing; our work, I might add!" retorts Nemo Wright, the leader of a group of Lurch's erstwhile assistants. "This pompous oaf works us to the bone for next to no pay, and has the gall to brag that he's the only one who deserves any credit whatsoever! Lurch only cares about the bottom line, while we’re slaving away to pay rightful homage to our dear Leader! I'm not saying to get rid of our profession altogether, of course; just make sure we're treated fairly and given due credit for our hard work!"
[effect]the names of visionary entrepreneurs are lost to history as their inventions are credited solely to the workers who build them.

[option]"The plight of these poor little workers is tragic, but they unsurprisingly fail to grasp the bigger picture here," sighs Lucille B. Claus, one of @@NAME@@'s harshest and most patronizing art critics. "It's true that this shocking revelation has rightfully tarnished Lurch's reputation for good. But why should we continue this cycle of disingenuous pseudo-plagiarism by supporting the very people who help these disreputable 'artists', especially for a commission as esteemed as yours?"
Noticing the glares emanating from both Lurch and his former assistants, Claus leans towards your ear. "I say, do the right thing and ban outsourcing art projects altogether. You won't need to worry about protecting these redundant assistants, and you'll be forcing our artists to start producing genuine @@DEMONYM@@ artwork! Seems like a pretty obvious win-win to me."
[effect]desolate art galleries across the nation shut down as lazy @@DEMONYM@@ artists cannot be bothered to pick up their tools.

Oh, perhaps I should have been clearer. The new draft needs to be in the original post as well, above First Draft :)


Ah, I see. My bad!


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