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Sylh Alanor
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Postby Sylh Alanor » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:53 am

Pre-Christian Persecuted People wrote:
Sylh Alanor wrote:Would you mind explaining how this bill is tyrannical? So far this seems like the same thing you post in every GA thread, so to keep everyone here from assuming that it's a copy/paste response, I'd like to know more about why you think this about a bill that has the World Assembly investigate epidemics is tyrannical.


Certainly sir! I point out the bills as tyrannical because they are. As a majority, you will not understand the persecution at all, but as persecuted minority following old religion, we certainly understand persecution

Every country has a right to accept or deny any foreigner / foreign authority etc to be present whatever their business be, however, this bill tears through that when it says:

All member nations must permit the entrance and exit of WHA inspectors (hereinafter Inspectors) and fully cooperate with such requests for access or information which Inspectors may deliver to member nation authorities, subject to the following subsection.

A sovereign nation must have the right to either agree to let foreigners in or not, it does not matter whether it is pandemic, endemic or an apocalypse. The country must have the right to deal with it as it sees fit.

Second such dangerous point is this:

Inspectors’ request for access to sensitive areas or sensitive information may be rejected by the local jurisdiction. Such rejections shall be reviewed by the Independent Adjudicative Office, which may overrule such rejections if the likely harm of release is less than the likely harm to international public health interests.

No international body should have a right to permit or overrule anything, it is upto the state which must see as they deem fit as most of such areas are of high importance and this will definitely be used as espionage. Besides, it is against our ideology to create some Majestic 12 type of Supra-Globalist organization planning to rule over all the innocent minority.

And then, this one is very concerning:

No member nation may otherwise bar the access of Inspectors to medical personnel. Nor may any member nation retaliate against the provision of information by medical personnel to Inspectors.

This directly attacks the sovereignty of the nations. Every country should have the right to accept or deny any person entering the country no matter what especially when that person might be a type of spy or harbor ill feelings against the country. Special treatment given to these guys would be preposterous.

There are many such things in the bill that can be countered, so as an alternative we propose:

1. The inspectors whichever nation they go to, shall also be bound to the respective countries laws and in the case of them breaking the law, that country will have the full right to prosecute and punish them if convicted.

2. Individual country has a right to accept or deny any inspectors based on their own volition.

3. Individual countries would not require to provide the inspector any information about the installations which affect national security and would have the full right to prosecute the inspectors if they try to obtain unauthorized information.

These 3 points would ensure the sovereignty of the innocent nations and will protect minority nations against monstrous majority.

"Sir" was a weird choice. I guess you're busy persecuting women, who might be a minority of people in this part of the forum :P

Thanks for the response anyway, I suppose.
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Pre-Christian Persecuted People
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Founded: Jun 12, 2021
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Postby Pre-Christian Persecuted People » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:06 pm

Sylh Alanor wrote:
Pre-Christian Persecuted People wrote:
Certainly sir! I point out the bills as tyrannical because they are. As a majority, you will not understand the persecution at all, but as persecuted minority following old religion, we certainly understand persecution

Every country has a right to accept or deny any foreigner / foreign authority etc to be present whatever their business be, however, this bill tears through that when it says:

All member nations must permit the entrance and exit of WHA inspectors (hereinafter Inspectors) and fully cooperate with such requests for access or information which Inspectors may deliver to member nation authorities, subject to the following subsection.

A sovereign nation must have the right to either agree to let foreigners in or not, it does not matter whether it is pandemic, endemic or an apocalypse. The country must have the right to deal with it as it sees fit.

Second such dangerous point is this:

Inspectors’ request for access to sensitive areas or sensitive information may be rejected by the local jurisdiction. Such rejections shall be reviewed by the Independent Adjudicative Office, which may overrule such rejections if the likely harm of release is less than the likely harm to international public health interests.

No international body should have a right to permit or overrule anything, it is upto the state which must see as they deem fit as most of such areas are of high importance and this will definitely be used as espionage. Besides, it is against our ideology to create some Majestic 12 type of Supra-Globalist organization planning to rule over all the innocent minority.

And then, this one is very concerning:

No member nation may otherwise bar the access of Inspectors to medical personnel. Nor may any member nation retaliate against the provision of information by medical personnel to Inspectors.

This directly attacks the sovereignty of the nations. Every country should have the right to accept or deny any person entering the country no matter what especially when that person might be a type of spy or harbor ill feelings against the country. Special treatment given to these guys would be preposterous.

There are many such things in the bill that can be countered, so as an alternative we propose:

1. The inspectors whichever nation they go to, shall also be bound to the respective countries laws and in the case of them breaking the law, that country will have the full right to prosecute and punish them if convicted.

2. Individual country has a right to accept or deny any inspectors based on their own volition.

3. Individual countries would not require to provide the inspector any information about the installations which affect national security and would have the full right to prosecute the inspectors if they try to obtain unauthorized information.

These 3 points would ensure the sovereignty of the innocent nations and will protect minority nations against monstrous majority.

"Sir" was a weird choice. I guess you're busy persecuting women, who might be a minority of people in this part of the forum :P

Thanks for the response anyway, I suppose.


Hey I didn't mean any harm of it.

This was just another form of response , more of traditional British response.

Sorry if you got offended, I meant no malice or hatred, but there is no persecution of anyone in my country whatsoever, trying to get the stats updated that way too.

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Postby Grapeia » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:07 pm

Y’all are psychotic. Didn’t you just vote to ban fascism? And now this bill saying you can stomp all over individual national sovereignty? Lmao ok then

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Postby Sincluda » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:40 pm

Grapeia wrote:Y’all are psychotic. Didn’t you just vote to ban fascism? And now this bill saying you can stomp all over individual national sovereignty? Lmao ok then

OOC: This is one of the more optional bills in the WA why is the only argument NatSov

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Postby Texkentuck » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:57 pm

Sincluda wrote:
Grapeia wrote:Y’all are psychotic. Didn’t you just vote to ban fascism? And now this bill saying you can stomp all over individual national sovereignty? Lmao ok then

OOC: This is one of the more optional bills in the WA why is the only argument NatSov



Our nation is no longer going to criticize the WA do to our ban. We are here to be constructive. Power tends to corrupt absolutely....I think they make a great case....If proposals don't have a substance then their isn't a point. Our nation takes Pandemics seriously. The mask helps but not good enough. We talk more about how to prevent getting a disease by encouraging the sanitation of groceries and taking the vaccine if the individual is eligible. We don't push hyperactive vaccines on our children because that could cause a side affect of hyper immunity. Also we let people in general opt out because if ones vaccinated good. If ones not then we respect their liberty and may God have mercy on there health. Our government has done all it could in staying in tune with liberty....Also the older population is another demographic and if they've been around that long we don't want to hurt their health if it's fragile. Side affects can have a much bigger affect on the elder generation in our societies.

We would like to see a proposal for work environments to let truck loads sit for a day with out contact and the sanitization of all in a work place. Also require people to get temperature checked and washing of hands before entering a work environment as a worker or customer. No record keep of the such should be permitted unless all involved in the statistics are paid by the research coordinated.....

Our nation would vote against....For our reasons message the gov. of Texkentuck.....We just think this proposal is for after an outbreak when nations react late...

We are here to be constructive and diverse.....

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:55 pm

Texkentuck wrote:We don't push hyperactive vaccines on our children because that could cause a side affect of hyper immunity.


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Texkentuck
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Postby Texkentuck » Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:16 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
Texkentuck wrote:We don't push hyperactive vaccines on our children because that could cause a side affect of hyper immunity.




"What does this mean, ambassador?"


Children tend to have a stronger immune system. For most kids it will probably be fine but kids aren't as vulnerable to the disease. It's just that kids have a stronger immune system. I don't know if getting kids the vaccine is worth the reaction. That's the point I'm trying to make.....But Texkentuck believes everyone should get vaccinated and probably would help and do more good if kids get vaccinated as well. But do not know if it's worth for a child to go through the side affects if they aren't as vulnerable....I am a leader of a nation and not a doctor......

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Thassala
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Postby Thassala » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:04 am

Ambassador Callan clears her throat. "Putting aside the persecution complexes and..."scientific" concerns of the honorable delegates, there is much to applaud in this Act. By and large, we see no reason to stand in opposition to the passage of this. We are, as has already been heard, also concerned about any potential infringement on the integrity of our national security..." Callan pauses here to reach for a glass of water. "But both the Secretary and I are satisfied that Thassala stands to gain much more than it loses here."
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:09 pm

We already legislated on vaccines.

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Go Flight only for the Vaccinated

Postby Texkentuck » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:29 pm

In Texkentuck Parliament is taking the Pandemics of the world Seriously. For all citizens of nations visiting or immigrants they must have a vaccine card....Fraudulent vaccine cards that are discovered those citizens will be refused from All Texkentuck Airports and will be returned to their homeland or back to the place of incoming destination. Any WA nation must make this into the next proposal. Our law is being enforced in Texkentuck.... "Masks are not required on our flights" only must be vaccinated. Each Passenger is given a plastic cover to separate themselves from other passengers but the plastic dividers are not enforced..... encourage people to quarantine when they arrive in our nation for up to 5 days. It's not enforced but the cards are in Texkentuck. For each nation citizens receive an email of vaccinated requirements.

Texkentuck Parliament and the CEO of Go Flight Airlines and other airlines that are HQ in Texkentuck will help to enforce this law. If an airline refuses and arrives with unvaccinated recipients. The Airlines will be fined up to 1 trillion dollars NSD....TFS Agents will enforce the law of Texkentuck and help citizens through a process in getting a vaccine or will be returned back to destination.
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