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Human Rights Watch accuses Israel of apartheid.

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Human Rights Watch accuses Israel of apartheid.

Postby Velem » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:23 am

The Guardian wrote:
Human Rights Watch has accused Israeli officials of committing the crimes of apartheid and persecution, claiming the government enforces an overarching policy to “maintain the domination by Jewish Israelis over Palestinians”.

In a report released on Tuesday, the New York-based advocacy group became the first major international rights body to level such allegations. It said that after decades of warnings that an entrenched hold over Palestinian life could lead to apartheid, it had found that the “threshold” had been crossed.

“This is the starkest finding Human Rights Watch has reached on Israeli conduct in the 30 years we’ve been documenting abuses on the ground there,” said Omar Shakir, the group’s Israel and Palestine director. Shakir said his organisation had never before directly accused Israeli officials of crimes against humanity.

Responding to the claims, Israel’s foreign ministry accused Human Rights Watch of a “longstanding anti-Israeli agenda” and said the report was a “propaganda pamphlet” that had “no connection to facts or reality on the ground”.

“The fictional claims that HRW concocted are both preposterous and false,” it said.

Palestinian officials and agencies welcomed the report, including the foreign ministry, which said it exposed “Israel’s colonial occupation and its discriminatory and racist policies against the Palestinian people”.

The report drew on years of human rights documentation, analysis of Israeli laws, a review of government planning documents, and statements by officials.

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https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/t ... ersecution
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ghts-watch
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So NSG, what so you think?

I think that this is a necessary development on the matter of human rights breaches committed by Israel against part of its populace.

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Postby Arisyan » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:26 am

Took them long enough.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:27 am

“Apartheid state accused of Apartheid.”
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Postby Aspistan » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:28 am

good but i dont think anything will come of it given how influential the US and its allies are.
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Postby The Horror Channel » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:29 am

Gee, I wonder how Israel is going to respond to this.

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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:31 am

And they'll get away with it, as they always do.

I wonder why?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:32 am

Dang you mean a colonial state with no regards for the natives isn't nice?
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Postby Heloin » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:33 am

Austreylia wrote:And they'll get away with it, as they always do.

I wonder why?

Hear me out. I propose sending this group of meddling kids and their dog to solve this problem.
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Postby Jarvikan » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:34 am

Ah yes!Because of course the Israelis segregate beaches and schools!

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Postby Suvadive Republic » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:37 am

Jarvikan wrote:Ah yes!Because of course the Israelis segregate beaches and schools!

Are you defending Israel or did I misunderstand your sarcastic remarks?
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Postby Jarvikan » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:39 am

Suvadive Republic wrote:
Jarvikan wrote:Ah yes!Because of course the Israelis segregate beaches and schools!

Are you defending Israel or did I misunderstand your sarcastic remarks?

Israel isn’t an apartheid state

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Postby Suvadive Republic » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:40 am

Jarvikan wrote:
Suvadive Republic wrote:Are you defending Israel or did I misunderstand your sarcastic remarks?

Israel isn’t an apartheid state

It is. And why you defending it meanwhile it is clearly oppressing Palestinians?
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Postby Heloin » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:40 am

Jarvikan wrote:Ah yes!Because of course the Israelis segregate beaches and schools!

Someone living in Palestine is freely allowed to entry the illegal Israeli settlements in their own country?
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Postby Peatiktist » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:40 am

Jarvikan wrote:
Suvadive Republic wrote:Are you defending Israel or did I misunderstand your sarcastic remarks?

Israel isn’t an apartheid state

It wasn't intended to be at formation, but they're becoming one as they become more and more hostile to Arabs.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:41 am

Peatiktist wrote:
Jarvikan wrote:Israel isn’t an apartheid state

It wasn't intended to be at formation, but they're becoming one as they become more and more hostile to Arabs.


It literally always was intended to be one. We have on record statements from the earliest Israeli leaders that they planned to cleanse Arabs from the area and force them out. It's been a shitty ethnostate from day one and is far and away the worst relationship the US maintains.
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Postby Aspistan » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:44 am

Jarvikan wrote:
Suvadive Republic wrote:Are you defending Israel or did I misunderstand your sarcastic remarks?

Israel isn’t an apartheid state

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Postby Nakena » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:46 am

Basically Israel is in fact every aryan wet dream, except that is jewish of course. So basically different team but functionally not too different.

It's a very sucessfull state that managed to come back to live after over two thousend years of world historical absence. A state with a clear racial and ethnically and religiously hierarchy, close-kin tribal and citizen ethos, militarized to the teeth (everyone include females serves) and its existing in a hostile environment fighting and claiming more and more lebensraum from primitive tribes surrounding them and ruthlessy subjecting them and cultivating lands it as it expands. All while formally maintaining semi-democratic norms and a fair degree of free sprech and free press etc. (except for obligatory military censorship but come on)

Whats not to love?
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Postby Picairn » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:46 am

Finally, some recognition of the blatantly obvious.
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Postby Peatiktist » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:47 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Peatiktist wrote:It wasn't intended to be at formation, but they're becoming one as they become more and more hostile to Arabs.


It literally always was intended to be one. We have on record statements from the earliest Israeli leaders that they planned to cleanse Arabs from the area and force them out. It's been a shitty ethnostate from day one and is far and away the worst relationship the US maintains.

Perhaps I worded what I said a bit confusingly.

What I meant was that it wasn't intended to be an apartheid state by the UN people who divided it up, but they didn't really think about what would happen past formation.

Israel has pretty much been an apartheid state since they started governing themselves.
This nation semi-reflects my political views, but not completely.
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Postby Jarvikan » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:48 am

Nakena wrote:Basically Israel is in fact every white supremacist wet dream, except that is jewish of course. So basically different team but functionally not too different.

It's a very sucessfull state that managed to come back to live after over two thousend years of world historical absence. A state with a clear racial and ethnically and religiously hierarchy, close-kin tribal and citizen ethos, militarized to the teeth (everyone include females serves) and its existing in a hostile environment fighting and claiming more and more lebensraum from primitive tribes surrounding them and ruthlessy subjecting them and cultivating lands it as it expands. All while formally maintaining semi-democratic norms and a fair degree of free sprech and free press etc. (except for obligatory military censorship but come on)

Whats not to love?

Israel doesn’t commit genocide.Simple as that.Israel protects Palestinian human rights.They shoot children as their parents have pushed them into the firing line to get a good photo for the mdedia.

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Postby Jarvikan » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:49 am

Heloin wrote:
Jarvikan wrote:Ah yes!Because of course the Israelis segregate beaches and schools!

Someone living in Palestine is freely allowed to entry the illegal Israeli settlements in their own country?

It was never their own country.The invaded the Jews and took the territory.It was jewish before Islam even existed

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:49 am

Jarvikan wrote:
Nakena wrote:Basically Israel is in fact every white supremacist wet dream, except that is jewish of course. So basically different team but functionally not too different.

It's a very sucessfull state that managed to come back to live after over two thousend years of world historical absence. A state with a clear racial and ethnically and religiously hierarchy, close-kin tribal and citizen ethos, militarized to the teeth (everyone include females serves) and its existing in a hostile environment fighting and claiming more and more lebensraum from primitive tribes surrounding them and ruthlessy subjecting them and cultivating lands it as it expands. All while formally maintaining semi-democratic norms and a fair degree of free sprech and free press etc. (except for obligatory military censorship but come on)

Whats not to love?

Israel doesn’t commit genocide.Simple as that.Israel protects Palestinian human rights.They shoot children as their parents have pushed them into the firing line to get a good photo for the mdedia.


Israel literally bombs hospitals and schools and is refusing to allow the vaccine into Palestinian territories lol. In no world do they protect Palestinian human rights, literally all the evidence disagrees with this claim.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:50 am

Jarvikan wrote:
Nakena wrote:Basically Israel is in fact every white supremacist wet dream, except that is jewish of course. So basically different team but functionally not too different.

It's a very sucessfull state that managed to come back to live after over two thousend years of world historical absence. A state with a clear racial and ethnically and religiously hierarchy, close-kin tribal and citizen ethos, militarized to the teeth (everyone include females serves) and its existing in a hostile environment fighting and claiming more and more lebensraum from primitive tribes surrounding them and ruthlessy subjecting them and cultivating lands it as it expands. All while formally maintaining semi-democratic norms and a fair degree of free sprech and free press etc. (except for obligatory military censorship but come on)

Whats not to love?

Israel doesn’t commit genocide.Simple as that.Israel protects Palestinian human rights.They shoot children as their parents have pushed them into the firing line to get a good photo for the mdedia.

You don't protect human rights by shooting children period.
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Postby Suvadive Republic » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:50 am

Peatiktist wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It literally always was intended to be one. We have on record statements from the earliest Israeli leaders that they planned to cleanse Arabs from the area and force them out. It's been a shitty ethnostate from day one and is far and away the worst relationship the US maintains.

Perhaps I worded what I said a bit confusingly.

What I meant was that it wasn't intended to be an apartheid state by the UN people who divided it up, but they didn't really think about what would happen past formation.

Israel has pretty much been an apartheid state since they started governing themselves.

I dont oppose the idea of a Jewish state. But what has this state become. Which is why we must stand up to this kind of racism. This goes to Iran, Saudi Arabia, China and North Korea as well.
Standing up to this apartheid state is not anti-semitism. Same way standing up to China is not anti-asian or standing up to Iran is not anti-Shia (even though some people do it with these intentions)
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Postby Suvadive Republic » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:51 am

Jarvikan wrote:
Heloin wrote:Someone living in Palestine is freely allowed to entry the illegal Israeli settlements in their own country?

It was never their own country.The invaded the Jews and took the territory.It was jewish before Islam even existed

Muslims took Jerusalem from the Romans. Meanwhile the Romans were killing Jews like they were animals. Jews sided with the Muslims and fought beside them against the Romans. Even during the crusades
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